Here
we go. We back with the war report.
>> Yes, sir.
>> Indepth
raw conversation about what's going on
in the Middle East. And I got to welcome
back to the hot seat my brother Sergeant
Nicholas Irvin. Nick, what up?
>> Hey, what's going on? What's going on?
Crazy, crazy, crazy news. I just texted
news.
>> I just texted you to uh from like the
Hill um the Hill
media or news report or something like
that of um yeah what we were just
talking about. But it's what Trump says.
We'll see.
>> Okay. I mean, let's jump right into it.
According to what you just text me,
Trump has just reopened
the straight of her moves. Did Did I get
that correct?
>> Yeah. He says permanently. Permanently.
This is coming like what a day after he
had it. He used to put like the naval
blockade to you know close the straight
even though he didn't care about the
straight and then he wanted Iran to open
the straight so he could close it
because they had it closed. I mean the
whole thing is is is weird and he's like
praising uh China and um asking them are
it was like a deal in exchange that if
he opens it uh they will no longer like
traffic use that straight to traffic
arms to Iran.
This is a weird the whole thing is the
whole thing is weird. None of this makes
sense like militarily in my opinion. The
back and forth that we don't care about
the straight don't need it. We want it
open now we want it closed. the whole
thing is is an awkward play. And then
like to praise China, it's like I
thought China was helping them, you
know.
>> You know, I you did send me the tweet.
Um I looked at it. Truth be told, I
don't I don't know if that's fake news.
I don't know if it's real because
obviously this is breaking right before,
>> you know, we're having this
conversation. So I I'm gonna take it at
face value.
>> The straightest reopen, right? I agree.
And it just it could be a stock market
manipulation like he's been doing that
this entire
>> campaign, this entire war, it's all been
like stock manipulation. It's a lot of
back and forth and right before the
stock market opens up. He drops some
news to manipulate it because the stock
market, you know, for the most part,
it's going to go off of uh the hype, not
the actual news. It's going to sell on
the news, but it's going to buy and go
up on the hype.
Nah, I mean this guy has been manu, you
know what the what the crazy thing is?
He's been manipulating the stock market
since he has gotten in office.
>> Facts. Facts.
>> But the craziest part, he tells you.
>> Yep.
>> He literally tells you.
>> Yep.
>> You know how he's, you know, good for
the stock market. uh how he literally
is doing things that can make the stock
market go crazy.
>> Yep. Yep.
>> It's insane that we have a
commander-in-chief that is all but
admitting to,
>> you know, crimes.
This is insider trading at his best. I'm
sure before he makes before he puts
these tweets out,
>> there a couple of phone calls to his
good friends.
>> Yeah. that are going out and like, yo,
you know, either buy now
>> or or or dump what you have right now
because there's there's a a post about
to go up.
>> Exactly. Exactly. I mean, you look at
all the the congressmen, congresswoman,
you know, people up in office and look
at their their portfolio or look at
their their net worth just skyrocket.
And that goes for the majority of them,
like 99.9% of them. And it's like you're
supposed to be getting paid a, you know,
measly, not measly, you know, six figure
salary, but then you have a net worth of
like 40 m, 60 m, 100 million, whatever
it may be. It's a lot of I mean, they
get the news first. You know, they know
when something's about to happen and
they buy up stock. They buy up, you
know, stock in Lockheed Martin if
there's a war about to happen and the
missiles and they they know what stocks
to buy and they know what stocks to sell
and they make bank off of it. It's a lot
of insider trading going on. I think
like it was like Nancy Pelosi, she had
um like she was outperforming
uh the S&P or the Dow, I forget what it
was. She was outperforming the stock
market with her, you know, insider
trading deals. I mean, all these
politicians get rich while they're while
they're in office. All of them do off of
a six figure salary.
You know, that that is 100% correct.
And it's it's one of those uh
open secrets, if you will. Everybody
knows about it. Nobody talks about it.
>> You know, these guys don't get paid a
ton of money. Don't get me wrong, six
figure salary is a great salary.
>> Facts. Yeah. But, you know, for the work
that they do, it it's not the most
money.
>> No.
>> That you can make. But they all somehow
someway leave office as
multi-millionaires.
>> Yeah.
>> And then they write their book.
>> Yeah.
>> And make more millions.
>> Yep. And their speaking engagements and
then they, you know, charge six figures
for that, million for that.
>> Correct.
>> They all do it. They all do it. why we
support it or why why that's allowed. I
mean, I don't I personally think that
these, you know, politicians shouldn't
even be allowed to touch the stock in my
opinion. I don't think they should be
able to. They know too much. They know
exactly how it's going to move, where
it's going to move, and they know how
much money to put up in there, and how
much money they're going to make out of
it. I don't think I mean, if they're
allowed to do that, I think we should
have some privy to it, too, as the
average, you know, American. But you got
people out trying to day trade and mine
Bitcoin for a few bucks and a toenail,
you know.
>> No, you're absolutely right. But that
would never happen. Number one. Number
two, um, you know, it kills me. These
politicians, uh, they sit and I don't
care what side of the aisle you sit on,
Republican, Democrat, independent,
whatever you are, you know, you you've
created your own party, whatever that
might look like.
They all
are in it for the hustle.
>> Facts. Yeah.
>> They can talk that we're for the people
crap all they want.
>> Yep. Yep.
>> But at the end of the day, this is the
hustle, they get it. It's It's one of
those open secrets nobody talks about.
Mhm.
>> And the higher they rise through the
ranks, you literally see their zip
codes, their area codes, the size of
their house.
>> It all changes.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They don't live like
Red Man, I tell you that.
>> They ain't living like that.
>> Oh man, I forgot about that. Oh, that
Cribs episode. My man Red Man.
>> Shout to Red Man for real. Okay. I I
want to take this conversation in a
different direction, then I'll bring it
back. Okay.
>> Uh
Melania Trump.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> I I want to say 24 48 hours after the
last time you and I sat down
>> Melania Trump out of the clear blue sky
>> calls a press conference.
>> Yep.
And she denies
everything to do with her and Jeffrey
Epste.
>> Yep.
>> Number one, do you believe her? Number
two, do you think that was random?
>> Do I believe her? I mean
Oh, man. I I don't
I Damn, that's a tough one. No. Be No, I
don't. I don't because who she's
involved with. I don't believe her and
100% I know for a fact it wasn't random.
I think something maybe starting to
trickle down are heading that way and
she's trying to jump ship before it hits
the iceberg.
I think that's what she was trying to
do. But it wasn't random. And I think
didn't wasn't like Trump surprised by it
too. He was caught off guard by it.
>> Yes. By his own words.
>> Yeah. And that's supposed to be his
wife. Well, I think it's more like a
contractual agreement, you know, type
deal. I don't think they really sleep
together, none of that. But
the fact that it caught him off guard,
maybe she might know something that's
about to come down that may implement
her because she's with him and it could
just be about, you know, Donald Trump. I
don't know what I mean, do I believe
her? I mean, to a degree, I guess. Do I
think that she was involved with Maxwell
and and trafficking and all this and
eating kids? No. I mean, I say that with
like 10%
uh
I don't know. I'm like 10% sure that
maybe she didn't. I don't know. But
she's involved with that crowd. But it
damn sure wasn't random. And we just
Yeah, you're right. We just talked about
the whole Epstein thing. Maybe when this
war does die down or when it and that's
when the Epstein thing kicks off and are
back up because the people haven't
forgot about it. I think we're going to
still keep asking about it because it
was too it's too much to ignore. I can
care less about the UFO disclosure stuff
right now at this point. Let me know
who's eating kids, you know,
so we as American people can get our
hunt on.
>> You know, number one, I'm with you. I
don't think it was random. Mhm.
>> Uh at all. Um
this didn't just come out of the clear
blue sky,
>> right?
>> Just to give the audience some context,
there was a book um that came out that
has, you know, it's still on the
shelves, but uh it was put out by Harper
Collins UK, the publisher. Um the book
is entitled is called Entitled, written
by Andrew Lowey. And within the book,
he loosely insinuates that
not only did uh Epstein introduce
Melania to Trump, but Epstein had a
relationship with Melania before Trump.
>> Oh, I didn't know that.
>> And yeah, so
Melania,
needless to say, is furious. She sends
her lawyers. Um, and
you know, they go after Harper Collins.
Harper Collins puts out an apology.
>> But I do think that
it's bigger than that. And the reason I
think that it's bigger than that is
just you. Nobody can convince me that in
addition to oil,
>> in addition to precious minerals, in
addition to doing uh Israel's bidding,
uh this war is and was a deflection of
the Epstein case.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> That that much I believe to be 100%
true.
But I got to wonder what the f is going
on in that White House when your wife,
like just when you get all of
the media outlets completely focused on
the war, your wife decides to give a
press conference, no less, and it's
entirely about
the Epstein files and it's Epstein case.
And she brings it right back front and
center.
Donald has got to be like, "Yo,
you're worse than Jada Pink. Like, you
are legitimately worse than that chick."
>> Oh. Oh. Oh, we got him with the Jada.
God. Yeah. You can't trust.
>> I mean, please tell me. Did you Did you
see that Jada?
>> Yes. Yes. Yes. I mean, at what point I
mean, Will should have not slapped Butch
McCall. You should have slapped that B
for real. I mean, damn. And you making
me look that bad. I I don't care. I wife
or not. I mean, I don't know what type
of prenuptual agreement they have, but
brother, it ain't worth it. It ain't
worth it to get out. I mean, but I don't
know. Maybe he might be into that,
though. Maybe he might like the public
humiliation type deal. I'll just look
like that. I mean, Will ain't going to
slap me. I promise you that. But damn,
Melania did pull a Jada. She did pull
into
>> I mean I don't know I don't like I don't
know how much money Trump is paying
Melania to play his wife but it ain't it
ain't worth it. I I don't think it's
worth it. I don't but I at one point
remember when Trump even talked about he
was like
I don't even care about the Epstein
files. He's like I want you know
basically wanted it to go away. He
didn't care about it. It was the the us
the people who kept bringing it up to,
you know,
making it trend or or bringing bring up
the Epstein files to put it at the
forefront so he would acknowledge it
even though he doesn't want to and
doesn't allegedly care about it and his
name's all in it. I mean, I don't know
what Melania's whole game plan is. Maybe
it it it could be to distance herself
because she knows I got some information
about, hey, some names are about to
drop, some more intel is about to drop
because we keep getting a redacted. How
many times can you, you know, be
transparent, but give us this redacted
or, you know, files you've already seen
before. I don't know how long they can
keep that up before it's just like, hey,
give it to us straight. They did more
damage to the survivors survivors than
they did the people who actually
committed the crimes.
>> I think maybe she might know something.
And if that's the case, then yeah, Trump
Trump might be in for something. But
some I'm sure somebody got slapped
behind the scenes. I'm sure somebody got
slapped.
>> Put it this way. Anybody who did get
slapped,
it was probably the wrong person.
>> Oh,
>> because she has Trump
>> clearly by the nuts.
>> Yeah.
>> You know, I mean, she I mean,
anybody who
has been married, anybody who is
married, anybody who's actually in a
relationship, you can tell
>> when it's real. You can tell when
there's love there. You can tell when
you are two people who are in a a in a
relationship and and it's based on love
and trust.
That ain't them.
>> No.
>> You know, when you look at them,
>> you know what I see? I see Rick Ross and
his girls. He can't get a kiss on the
mouth or whatever. Rick Ross and his
girls.
>> There you go.
>> That's what I see. That's how I compare
Trump and Melania. Those type
relationships, it's like the girl want
nothing to do with you. They're there
for the money. I mean, she got
>> I compare Will and Jada, man. I I really
do.
>> Yeah.
>> At this point, I I don't I don't know
that Will could get a kiss on her lips.
>> Jada's made it clear we we live in
separate houses. And although
>> Trump and Melania live in the White
House, I'm sure they haven't slept in
the same bedroom.
>> Oh, fact.
>> Since before his first term.
>> Yeah. Since when since when they were
hanging out with Epstein,
>> you know, I mean, the pictures were up.
The pictures are there. You know, the
pictures are obviously there. I don't
know how the the the relationship with
Epstein or Maxwell, but there are
pictures of them hanging out together at
a party, a few of them. So,
>> but you you you want to know and and we
can move this thing on after that
because it's all speculation, but I
would I tr I wouldn't be surprised if
she's got her little thing going on that
he's aware of. Like, yo, I I I come and
I pretend to be your wife in public.
I'll, you know, you give the State of
the Union, I'm going to go and I'mma sit
there for two hours. I I'm going to
literally be there when you know we get
on and off of Air Force One.
>> But you're on that wing of the house.
I'm on this wing of the house. I sneak
my little dude in.
>> It's one of the Secret Service agents.
That's who it is.
>> Probably.
>> Yeah. Yeah. I don't blame him. I mean,
>> hey, I I don't know. I don't know.
I might try to get Doc Dmore after me,
though, so I'm good. I'm good.
Okay, switch topics with me. Uh, you
know, the the Democrats,
they're they're going, you know, they're
they're going right from the playbook.
>> Um, you know, they they want to invoke
the 25th Amendment.
>> They want this man impeached.
Is this
in your opinion justified or is it just
the Democrats
with another lame weak attempt to get
Trump out of office?
>> I think it's another lame weak attempt.
I mean, is it justified? Um
um I I don't I don't I don't agree and I
don't like what he's doing as as as as
president. you know, he completely
flipped on everything he said he was
going to do. So, I don't agree with, you
know, his policies right now. This Yeah,
I don't agree with nothing he's doing
right now. Um, but they pulled his last
presidency and he was impeached. Stay
president. Nothing happened. He would
just had that, you know, that little
asterisk beside his name, impeached. I
mean, this is not the Bill Clinton days.
You know, nothing's going to happen. I
think it's just the Democrats being
Democrats just to it's to it's always to
create some type of divide in America.
That's it. We didn't There's nothing
united about this country whatsoever.
It's a two-p partyy system and one side
has to make it look like that they're
hating what the other side's doing. So,
they pull these little tricks, cats out
the cats out the bag, rabbit out the hat
type trick. It's like it doesn't mean
nothing. It's just a show. It's all a
show so the people can see, oh, the
Democrats hate the Republicans. It gives
them that one slide something to fight
for and then the Republicans, they can
point the finger and be like, "Oh, the
Democrats are always doing X, Y, and Z."
And I don't think it holds any merit
behind it. But I also don't agree with
nothing he's doing as president either.
You know, I think this whole war thing
kind of it it put a lot of people in a
position to where they have you almost
like can't support it. I mean, and if
you do, it's like, but give me your
reasons why. Let's be honest. Do we
really believe Iran was like two weeks
away for the past few decades from
obtaining a a nuclear weapon? Nobody
goes after Israel. You know, JFK tried
it and we all know what happened to him
back into the left when he start trying
to, hey, yeah, let's go check out to see
if Israel has some nuclear weapons. And
they said, "No, we don't want any
inspectors over here." You know, they
got them. Why are they allowed to have
them?
I don't know. The whole new I don't
think anybody should have nuclear
weapons. I think Yeah, I don't think
anybody, you know, you can't do nothing
about it now. You can't like destroy
them all. Somebody's always going to
have them. But then there's only one
people on this planet, one nation that
has actually used a weapon of that
nature, the atomic bomb. Not just once,
but twice. There's only one and that's
us. No one else has used them. I don't
know. But I definitely think Yeah,
it's all a show. All a show.
>> Nah, you know, the Democrats
I I don't know how you can get it wrong
so consistently.
It it it baffles me
to think how this party continuously
gets the most basic things wrong. And
and what I mean by that is
you're talking
invoking the 25th amendment, right?
>> Mhm.
>> Well, guess what? You did that twice in
his first term.
>> Yeah. Yeah. The guy was impeached twice.
Like he wasn't just impeached.
>> Yeah.
>> He was impeached twice.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> And it meant nothing. It did nothing
because Donald Trump has positioned
himself as the ultimate victim. M
>> he has positioned himself as
I
am strong enough to take all of the
blows
for
the people who cannot take the blows.
>> The people who in our society who are
unheard and unseen.
>> So when they come after me, they're
essentially coming after you. and
Democrats going at them. They've had
them. Like, let's just call it what it
is.
>> The talking points of inflation,
>> um, the talking points of
you can't afford to pay your rent, you
can't the the the the the rising cost of
food and gas.
>> Right before this war happened, you saw
that talk was resonating.
>> Yeah. Yeah. because they're talking to I
don't care what side of the aisle you're
on.
>> Yeah.
>> That affects you.
>> Mhm.
>> But to now move your talking points away
from what was working, I actually
believe they're helping Trump.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> Like honestly, I mean, do do you see
where I'm coming from with this?
>> Oh, yeah. It's I think it's it's the
illusion of it's all like the illusion.
I I think they all work together. This
is like the WWE. Politics is is nothing
more than the, you know, a WWE for
people who believe in politics. Like
Hulk Hogan really doesn't hate the
Undertaker. You know, it's the same with
the Democrats and and and Trump. I don't
think they really hate them. They put
out these little things to make it look
like, oh, we got them. We're going after
them. But like you said, they keep
making the same consistent mistakes.
It's got to be on purpose. These are
supposed to be some of the smartest
people our country has to offer. We got
like 400 million people in this country
and these are supposed to be the
brightest, the smartest, most
intellectual, but they're dumb as
Like all of them. They're pretty They're
pretty stupid. So I I know it's
a game. I know it's just all for show to
make us believe something that ain't
real. It's none of it's real. They all
work together. Trump's making them rich.
Why would they really want to get rid of
him? That's why nothing happened after
the first two impeachments. He was
making them rich behind the scenes.
Stock market stock insider trading. Why
get rid of the dude who's make who's
pumping your pockets up like that?
You're getting paid very well.
>> No, I mean like you said, these are
supposed to be some of the smartest
people in the room and they consistently
show you. I mean, for anybody who's
listening who looks at the television or
or looks online and they see these
well-dressed politicians and you think,
"Oh my god, they must be so much smarter
than the average." No, they're not.
>> No,
>> no, they're not.
>> They pretend to be.
>> They they they prop themselves up. They
got a bet might have a better vocabulary
here and there. Mhm.
>> They looked apart, but the truth is
>> they're very they're not intelligent
people. They're just not.
>> No,
>> there is no intelligence in making the
same exact mistake again and again and
again and again.
>> And here's where I will give Trump his
props. I really will.
Just as
in my opinion, right before this war
started, the Democrats had the right
talking points. They should have stayed
on inflation. They should have stayed on
the cost of living. And now they pivoted
and they're going right back to what
they did in the first term.
>> Mhm.
>> Trump, the liar he is,
>> he I mean, this guy is a straight liar
cuz we know that this is all about
lining his pockets. But where I will
give him his props,
he speaks to the people and he speaks in
a way. He doesn't speak like a
politician. He speaks in a way.
>> Yeah.
>> That he seems like he's one of them.
>> Yeah.
>> Lying all the way to the bank. You know,
the first time he got in office, he
promised everybody, hey, you know,
>> the the the fossil fuels we're keeping.
We I'm going to to to Pennsylvania and
I'm going to West Virginia and we're
going to reopen all of these coal mines
and this that
>> none of them are reopen.
>> All of those guys are still out of a
job.
>> This guy will tell you exactly what you
want to hear till he gets exactly what
he wants out of you
>> and then he's on to the next and he and
it's been working.
>> The Democrats just haven't figured that
out. They they are they stand on this
freaking moral high ground and they
consistently are making these weak
just utterly stupid decisions trying to
be holier than thou and they're killing
us.
>> Mhm. They don't they don't sit with the
people. And I I think they're using that
same playbook from way back when, you
know, in the 90s, 80s or whatever of
we're going to get the black vote, you
know, black people vote Democrat,
whatever. I think they're just sticking
with that same They don't know how to
speak to the people. Like you said, it's
it's become holier than now attitude. It
it gets nobody anywhere. They're not
they Yeah. Well, all politicians for
that matter, majority are like that.
They're not Yeah. All of them. They're
not for the people. None of them are. I
mean, you really can't hate on them for
showing who they really are. They're not
for the people. They put on the act, but
it ain't it ain't about us. Michael
Jackson. Ben told us
>> that's right. You know,
something something that was unexpected
happened this week. Uh maybe you saw it
coming. I didn't see it coming, but
Tucker Carlson,
Megan Kelly,
>> Candace Owens, Alex Jones,
>> um Nick Fuentes, just to name a few,
all came out
scorching
>> the president.
>> Yeah.
>> Now, these were people
>> big time
>> who were on the front line. Literally
the front line. If there are soldiers on
the front line, it was them.
>> Yeah, that's facts.
>> You know,
saying this is our guy. We believe in
America.
And all of a sudden, out of the clear
blue sky, supposedly out of the clear
blue sky, at one time they all turn on
their Lord and Savior. Yeah. President
Trump.
>> What do you even make of that?
I think they speak for a lot of that
side, the MAGA side, whatever, the
Republican side. I think that
people are upset, a lot of them, with
the vote that they put in for Trump
because of what what he's doing
politically, you know, what he's doing
with the war in Iran. I think a lot of
it didn't sit well with people. It
doesn't resonate. and they see him being
controlled by the opposition or he sees
he they see we all see him being
controlled by our greatest ally. That's
what I think that
and why a lot of people are upset and
and turning because he was supposed to
be America first and it clearly isn't
America first. It is it is it is not
America first. It's it's we're making
Israel great again. That's what it is.
And they don't like that. And I think
that we we were supposed to be richer.
Prices were supposed to go down X, Y,
and Z. But I mean, still we $40 billion
a year annually. Still got to go over to
Israel to make them good. And we got to
still fight their wars. We still got to
die for them. You know, taxpayer still
has to front the bill. I just think
people are tired of it. And because he
was a frontr runner, all those people
supported him and he was all about no
new wars, no, you know, gas is going to
be cheaper and and the cost of eggs and
groceries are going to go down. And now
the those ones on the front line, those
soldiers saw the and they were
right for just calling them out.
Everybody, we have we have a right to do
that, to call them out. He didn't like
it and he start calling him, you know,
with third rate podcast or whatever the
But I'm like, bro, you was
literally on a few of them. You was
literally on the phone with Alex Jones
during his podcast when he was helping
you get elected. Mel Megan Kelly was a
front runner. I think he she did an
interview with him, you know, and he
turned he I mean, he's going after
he he's scorched earth right now. He
said, "Fuck y'all." And the Pope, you
know, he's going after everybody right
now. Everybody mocking Christianity with
the the the Jesus Road meme blessing
some dude. And he was like, "I thought
it was the Red Cross." I'm like, "Bro,
come on. You can't be that. You supposed
to be the smartest dude on the planet
playing 17 dimensional chess. You can't
even get You don't know what that is,
but you supposed to be a Christian." I
don't know. I mean, we all know he's not
Christian. We all know that. But he's
just he said everybody. He's going
and Israel or Iran,
Megan Kelly, Nick for Alex Jones,
all these people. And you know what? I'm
just going to go ahead and scorch a
little bit more. And the Pope, too.
And Christianity.
Let you know he did a press conference.
Y'all should look it up where he was
doing like this Apac thing for, you
know, pre press conference. And one of
the dudes got up on stage was Trump and
he's like, "Hey, this is the greatest
our first Jewish president." And Trump
was like, "Yeah, that's right. That's
right. I love his We all know what it
is. They're just calling him out on it.
He's he his true colors are showing
because he feels like his back is
against the wall cuz all those people,
his his best soldiers in in the war are
all turning on him right now." And he
didn't like that. And we all know the
ego is fragile.
>> You know
it. I first want to address
his frontlininers
>> that just turned on him.
According to them,
they said, you know, enough was enough.
the straw that broke the camel's back
was when he put that uh post up saying
that he was going to wipe out
>> the civil
>> a civilization
um you know they they absolutely had it
when he went at it with the pope
>> and you know said he's not a Christian
he's not a real Christian this that and
the third
>> wild and it goes against all of their
Christian values.
>> Uh-huh.
>> Okay, I hear you. But that's got to be
some of the biggest BS.
>> Like that is some like y'all
Megan,
Candace,
Alex, Nick, Tucker, y'all was so
offended
with this
post that he put up on Easter morning
saying, "I'm going to wipe out an entire
civilization and I'm going to send them
back to the Stone Age.
You're telling me that trumped
37 felony convictions?
That trumped
this guy being a convicted rapist.
That trumped
three wives. You're you're such a
Christian. You don't believe in uh uh
divorce.
>> Let's not forget this guy has three
wives.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
You know, let's not forget that this guy
was convicted of of
sleeping with uh what Stormmy Daniels,
>> a porn star.
>> Where were you where was this moral high
ground when all of that was going on?
It it literally took a post saying, "I'm
gonna send Iran back to the stone ages
that just happened to come out on Easter
Sunday." That was
I'm done with him. He's just lost it.
>> But you supported him the whole way with
every lie, with every conviction, with
every untruth. Like, are you kidding me?
So, I got to believe that there's
something greater happening behind the
scenes, Nick. There's no way that all of
them just turn against him in the same
week. And it's, you know, this guy has
done,
you know,
he he he
is 100% linked to this Epstein case.
That wasn't enough.
>> Yeah, that's facts. Fact. that you I
mean that's facts.
>> Yeah,
>> we know that.
>> Yeah,
>> this guy manipulates the stock market.
>> This guy he has
done reprehensible stuff.
But it's a post really
>> that that's what made you turn against
your leader, Lord and Savior.
>> No, there's something else going on. No
one.
>> What is it? What is it? I think I mean
whatever it is, it has to be deep. And
like they're they're doing the whole
Melania thing. It wasn't just that
group. Melania is kind of doing it too.
Melania is kind of doing it too. Like
hey Uhuh. I don't know what it is. Is it
the Epstein stuff? No, it can't be
because you're right. He's already been
mentioned in the Epstein files multiple
times.
I don't know what it could be. I mean,
if if and you're right, like if it
really did offend their religion that
much, then yeah, you can backtrack
decades and find like, hey, that that
that goes against what we believe in. I
mean, the fact that they actually
believe that he is Christian blows my
mind. It it absolutely. Isn't his
daughter like Jewish or something?
>> Yeah. I think that she converted when
she married uh
>> Kush. Yeah.
>> Kushner. There you go.
>> Yeah. So,
and like he's Yeah, I think that's the
real president at this point. Um,
Kushner, but I don't I don't know what
it could be. Why is that the straw that
broke the camel's back? I don't know.
And they all did do it at the same time.
I don't think they got on the phone. I
would assume not. And like, organize
this. Let's go after Trump and and turn
our back on him cuz you're right. I
mean, that and like that's what's weird
about that whole movement. they put him
up on a pedestal that he's like the Lord
and Savior and then when he acts like it
or puts up post to to predict or um yeah
show his true colors like hey I really
do feel this way. I think that I'm
really like that. I don't know why why
why be offended now? I don't think it
was because it was a Easter post and
wiping out a civilization that was
up. I think all of America should
have been like bro what the wipe
out an entire civilization. Like this is
that's not even a war at that point.
That's just straight up
Yeah. genocide, war crimes. That's
psychopath behavior at like the 10th
degree. I don't know. They was all about
the y'all don't understand Trump. He's
playing like 3D chess right now. Y'all
don't understand. But that post was the
one that broke the camel's back. I don't
I don't damn. I don't know what is going
on behind the scenes or why people I I
think it's because of the war. I want to
believe that and like breaking a lot of
promises, his campaign promises and
people are starting to wake up and see
like, bro, this is this is
stupid. I want to believe that. I Yeah,
I really do.
>> No, I mean I I say it all the time. The
first law of the land is
self-preservation.
There there's no way on the planet you
can make me believe that what what all
that this guy uh has done
certifiably he's done there is no
dispute
>> that it was a post that made them take
this moral shift and say we denounce
you. No way.
>> What do you think it is?
>> Access um broken promises.
uh him not going on some of their
platforms.
>> Oh, that butt hurt. So, it's a butt hurt
thing.
>> I mean, it's just my thought, but but I
do believe it's something that affects
each one of them purposely.
>> I mean, personally,
>> they they they
>> and it could be something as simple as
access. He, you know, maybe he's
distances himself from them. Maybe they
can't get him on the phone. He changed
his phone number. They don't have his
direct line anymore. M um maybe they
maybe they don't have a direct line to
that inside trading no more
>> like
>> you know he he's not tipping them off
>> you know
12 hours in advance that this is about
to come. So
>> yeah. Yeah.
>> There's just
>> look.
>> So that means the love
>> the love for him was was never real to
begin with then.
>> And they pushed a bunch of people to you
know vote and put this guy in office and
the love wasn't real. Was just to have
access to get views on and and insider
information about things that about to
happen. That's up.
The soul don't cost that much. God.
Yeah, bro. People say
>> I mean that's not hard to believe
though, Nick.
>> Yeah, you're right.
>> That's not like Come on, man.
>> Yeah, you're right.
>> What you just said, that's not hard to
believe.
>> I mean, that that's politics as usual.
Let's just keep it real.
>> Yeah.
>> I wash your hands, you wash mine.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> This this this is an exchange.
>> Mhm.
>> You know, I'm not doing this for free.
>> You you know my audience. Mhm.
>> You you you know I have influence.
>> Mhm.
>> Take care of me and I'm going to make
sure my people on election day take care
of you.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
>> But but here's the deal. It's too little
too late.
>> Yeah.
>> Let's just say they all woke up one
morning and
you know truly did have a revelation.
Mhm.
>> They God came to each one of them in
their dream and said, "Look, you know, I
I I want you to say 50 Hail Marys and
then go and and renounce
>> Uh-huh.
>> this false god because I am the true
God."
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> Let's just say that did happen.
The horse done left the barn.
>> Facts.
>> It it it's the the the it's done.
>> Yep. We still It's not like this man can
can run for president again.
>> Yeah, we still got what? Three more
years. A
>> little too late.
>> We got three more years, right?
>> Two and a half.
>> Two and a half.
>> Time is moving slow as
>> Yeah, Tom is moving slow. I mean, it is
it is a lot a lot has been going on
within them past two and a half years.
It feels like it feels like four to me.
I'm like, damn.
>> No, it's been one and a half years. He
has two and a half years left. I got
you. God. Yeah. It feels like four to
me. It feels like reproaching four.
Yeah. It's a lot that's been going on
the past since he got elected,
reelected. A lot has been going on. And
I think, yeah, the average person who
voted for him is still waiting for, you
know, that Trump check to hit, them
tariff checks to hit.
Ain't nobody getting paid.
But, you know, again, self-preservation,
and Trump does understand,
I mean, this guy sits on a freaking
platinum toilet.
>> Mhm.
>> Uh, he has never known a day of poverty.
He does not know what it is to cringe
>> when the average gas price goes above
$4. He does not know what it looks like
to be sick to your stomach when you go
to the grocery store and you get three,
four items and your bill is over $100.
>> He has no idea.
>> Y
>> what it looks like
>> to your entire life, your entire life
you've been able to be self-sufficient.
You've been able to be a man or a woman
and take care of your family. And now
you legitimately have to contemplate
getting government assistance.
>> And you and you're not even embarrassed
about it's just where I'm at.
>> He has no idea.
No idea what that feels like.
>> The people who vote for him do.
>> Exactly. But he tells them But he tells
them you I mean during during co hey I
got a nice check for y'all. And soon as
them check hit, people were like, "I
love Trump."
>> Yep. Yep. Yep.
>> And now he's promising another check.
And trust me, if those checks cash,
we're going to see the people who were
starving saying, "This guy is for us."
>> Yeah. Yeah. 100% 100%. Candace Owens
might be back on board. Megan Kelly
might be back on board. And them checks
start hitting them Trump checks. Yeah.
>> Ah, it's it's crazy. I mean, we touched
on
Trump verse the Pope a little bit
earlier in the conversation.
>> My brother,
is there nothing sacred?
You I mean,
people have used words like unhinged.
Um, last week I told you even even
myself when
>> I question this man's sanity
>> at this point. Mhm.
>> Um,
>> but that power is a real drug, my
brother.
>> Mhm. Yeah.
>> You know, unlimited, unchecked power is
a real drug.
Has he just crossed the line in your
opinion? Now I'm fighting with the Pope.
This This is the holy pontiff.
This is the holiest man on earth.
I think he definitely rubbed a
a certain demog a very large demographic
the wrong way.
But like you said, there's nothing
really sacred with him. You know, I I
I don't even know where it all came
from. Like why he decided to even attack
go after the pope the way he did. Wasn't
it something like with JD Vance or
something like that? Or I don't even I
don't even know. I saw at the post and I
saw what he said and I was like damn
this is like during the you know I'm
keeping up with the war and and
then I see he attacked all the you know
Candace and them and the pope
nothing sacred nothing sacred with them
I think every everything is everybody
can get his Trump hands everybody can
get them hands that's how Trump sees it
ain't a ain't no way about it I don't
care if you a
the Pope, Megan Kelly. Yeah. Everybody
can get Trump's hands and that's how he
feels. And he has no no issue throwing
them. He going to throw him in Iran.
Well, he not everybody. Israel ain't
never going to get him. But yeah, I
think he's just um
unhinged.
That's not the right word I'm looking
for. I just think he don't give a
I just think he honestly doesn't care.
He doesn't care if he pisses off this
certain people or demographic. He's
like, I'm not going to get reelected. I
can't get reelected. I'm already here.
Nothing you can do about it. We know
impeachment's not going to work. I can
do whatever I want to do. The Christians
don't vote for me. Oh well. I mean, we
look at this that lady uh his spiritual
or religious advisor, whatever the
she is, that preaching lady. I mean,
look at her. We That's a fraud. So
I don't even think he believes in the
anyways. Like the pope to him is
nobody. Just a dude with power. That's
it. I don't think he sees the pope as
anything like the way the Catholics see
the pope. I don't see the pope like
anything either. I know he's the pope,
you know, but
I might be a pope one day.
>> I'm I'mma tell you something. I I see
two things going on with this guy. Uh
have you ever seen
old people, you know, like old ladies,
old men,
once you get past a certain age, you
don't give a f. Like you you speak your
mind.
>> Like I've seen old women in the hood
>> walk through crowds of the hardest dude
like
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> And and they they they don't care.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
>> They they legitimately will walk down
the block and where everybody else
across the street, they're like, "Nah,
like I'm too old. I done seen it all."
>> Mhm. Mhm.
>> I think number one,
Trump is what, 79? His birthday is in
June. He's going to be 80 years old.
>> Yeah, that's right.
>> Like, this is a 80year-old senior
citizen.
>> Mhm.
take him out of office.
>> Hey, we were doing Hey, they they wanted
the same thing with Biden, too.
>> Biden was absolutely in his 80s.
>> He was in his 80s.
>> Yeah.
>> I think he left the office and he was
like 80 81 years old.
>> Okay.
>> Trump is just a a plain old senior
citizen. He does not care.
>> Mhm.
>> He ain't watching his mouth. Like I done
been here too long.
>> Yeah.
>> That's number one. So, he has that that
mentality. And then it's just unchecked
power.
>> Let's keep it real. Before Trump got
into office, he said,
>> and I quote,
>> I can shoot somebody in the head on
Fifth Avenue.
>> Mhm.
>> And my people are still going to stand
with me. I won't get convicted.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> And it has I mean, short of him actually
doing that, he's been a teflon dawn.
>> Facts.
>> So, no, it to your point, anybody can
get Trump hands.
>> Yeah. Yeah. And he don't care. He didn't
care. At at that age, I'm pretty sure
I'll be the same way, too. Like, at that
age, you're like, "Bro, I'm on the way
out. I don't have there's not many more
long days ahead. I'm on the way out.
it. everybody." You know? I
don't I don't care. You 80 something
years old. You got what I mean, if he
lucky,
10 maybe 10 years. But when you hit 90,
I mean, what is life at that age though?
What is He's not going to be out here
doing push-ups, jumping jacks, playing
with his grandchildren or whatever.
Maybe he will be. I don't know. I don't
know. I don't know how much of that
child blood he was drinking on Epstein's
Island. I don't know. He might have got
a little sip, a little more little more
pep in his step. I don't know. But 80 is
at the at the age of 80, it's like,
"Yeah, you don't give a anymore.
You don't care." And that's where we're
Yeah, that's where we're at. But hey, we
keep voting in these people who are
going to be that age anyways. And like
who's next up on the list? You told me
last time it was like Kamla.
We haven't seen that.
>> She did an interview this past week and
uh I forget who she did the interview
with, but they asked, matter of fact, it
was uh with Reverend Al Sharpton at at
his summit.
>> Come on.
>> The National Action Network Summit. And
he asked her, he was like, "Yo, you
know, are you going to be on the
ticket?" And she was like, "I'm thinking
about it." Which is cold for hell yeah.
>> I think not. I think she should go back
to hiding. Go back to being the ghost
that she was. We don't need none of
that. Oh no. I admit she ain't going to
win. No way. It's not looking good. It's
not looking good. But hey, we keep
voting in old people. So, and she's not
old enough. So, yeah, she ain't going to
make it.
>> No, she she's not old enough. She's the
wrong skin color and she's a woman. And
I just don't know that this country is
ready for a woman commander-in-chief.
>> Possibly after Trump, they'll just take
anything. Maybe I should run.
>> Who? You.
>> I Yeah. Like possibly after Trump.
>> I I don't know. Americans, they they
might just be willing to take anything.
>> Hey, Stephen A. Smith. I Yeah, they
might go after him.
>> Yeah. Like truth be told.
>> I hope not. You
>> You know
it.
Trump has so many of his day one
supporters
going after him. He's now
>> messed with with the holy pontiff.
>> There are 53 million
>> uh
>> Catholic Americans
>> in this country.
>> 53 million
>> that is a huge voting block.
>> Big time.
>> Huge.
empires. You know, the Democrats,
they've tried and they failed.
Trump became president.
He had to sit down
for four years and he became president
again.
>> I got no faith in the Democrats
whatsoever.
>> But
all empires
typically
they fall from within.
>> Yep. Yep.
>> They they they literally crumble from
within.
>> Y
>> So are we seeing the makings of this
empire crumbling not by outside forces
but from within?
>> America the empire or Republican.
>> Trump's empire. Trump's empire.
>> America empire.
>> The Republican empire.
>> 100%. Yeah. with the Epstein stuff going
on. You know, that alone, I think if we
ever get a chance to see that, which I
pray I hope we do, if we ever get a
chance to see what's really in them
documents, it's going to definitely come
down in. You got no choice. You can't
stick by it. If it is what we think it
all is, you can't you can't afford to
stick by it. But then you start going
after the Catholic people, you know,
Christians and all this and that. I
mean, it's
Yeah. self-sabotage at this point. Like,
and that was a a large, you know,
demographic of his voting base. A lot of
his voters were Christian or Catholic.
I mean, to to to go after them, that's
how you definitely destroy an empire.
If I wanted to destroy my own empire,
hell yeah. That's how I would do it.
>> Just piss off everybody who who voted
for me and let them know I I don't care
about y'all. I don't even mess with this
Thanks for the vote though.
If you want to sab Yeah. sabotage your
own empire, that's how you do it.
>> It's definitely going to be from within.
>> Yeah. I mean, that's typically how all
empires crumble.
>> And um he's doing a damn good job right
now.
>> Right. Right.
>> Yeah. Like it's only a matter of time. I
mean before Donald Jr., Eric
when Vodka comes out like, "Yo, we've
had enough."
>> Oh. Oh, that would eat him. That would
eat him. No, they they won't because
he's not going to go after or say
anything bad about the Jewish community.
That ain't going to happen.
That ain't going to happen.
>> Nah. The one line that I've And here
here's another thing I'll give him.
Truth be told,
can't stand. I mean, no. Let me rephrase
it. He seems to have no love for anybody
or anything except for his children.
>> They're the only ones that have ever
seemed to be off limits.
>> So, I I I don't think you'll ever see
Donald Jr. or or Ivank or or Eric or
>> I forget the other daughter's name, Lil
Baron. I I they they they're never going
to be in a line of fire. No, no.
>> Um, I want to talk about this blockade.
>> You know, the the
the last time you and I sat down, there
was a twoe ceasefire
which lasted all of a couple of hours.
>> Mhm. Yep.
>> Iran says, "You know what?
We might not be able to beat you on the
battlefield,
but what we do know well is terrorism.
And now we're going to play economic
terrorism
>> with the straight.
>> Mhm.
>> So this straight is getting closed.
>> Yeah. And
for a couple of days it sounded like
that was a good idea.
But then Trump turns around and does
something you know that I think was
genius personally.
>> Um you know they cuz they closed the
straight
>> to everything except Iranian ships.
>> So Iranian ships the straight was closed
but Iranian ships was getting in and out
of there no problem. So they were still
making their paper.
>> Yeah.
Trump is like, "Okay,
y'all want to play economic terrorism?
Well, I'mma one up you. I'm putting a
blockade on everything." So now your
ships
>> don't even get in and out of this like
like y'all want to play this game. I'm
the master of playing games.
>> Mhm.
>> So now the entire straight is shut down.
He's got something like 18 warships
already in the Middle East.
um 15 naval ships are right there
guarding the straight
and he's like, "Yo,
until y'all
come to the table with a deal that makes
sense, this straight stays closed, do
you think that this was a good play on
his part or just more posturing?"
>> I think it's more posture. I mean,
we we we allegedly supposedly didn't
even care about the strait. It wasn't
even about the strait to begin with. It
was supposed to be about Iran's nuclear
production capabilities,
uranium. Then the focus did shift to the
straight and it's we want it open. Let's
close it. Let's put it open. Now, if
that news today was true and they, you
know, had this deal with China, I think
Trump posted about something on his
social, true social about
how when he sees the president of China,
he's going to give him a the Chinese
president's going to give him a big fat
hug and some weird pause type all
because of this straight is now open. I
think it's just posturing. I think it's
posturing. I don't think it I see where
you're coming from like a a economic
play like let's shut the whole thing
down then. But I mean who owns the
street, you know? I mean economically
globally I don't think it b it benefits
really anybody. China's going I mean 20%
of the oil that moves through there.
Yeah. It's like 20% of the world's oil
moves through there. It's not really
helping anybody out. China's damn sure
ain't helping China out. If you want to
get it, China, yeah, keep it closed. But
like I said, I think that according to
the news today, he reopened it. I think
it's just posturing or it's just stock
manipulation. That's it. I don't think
we really have a game plan at this
point. The war was supposed to last
what, two to four weeks, then another
two to four weeks, then was four to six
weeks. We're at week what now?
>> This is um what is this? The eighth
week, the seventh week.
>> Yeah. with no endings. I mean, what do
we have like another four weeks? This is
turning into the whole COVID thing. This
is turning into 2020 all over again. And
let's not forget.
>> He said, I mean, not that you could
believe too much that comes out his
mouth, but he did an interview and he
said there should be some exciting news
coming out um in the next two days. This
war could be over in the in the coming
week. So,
>> now that's a lot of could and I've
already heard this story before. The war
was over months ago, weeks ago. The war
was already over. We already won.
Everything's completely obliterated.
I don't know. I mean, I think that, hey,
if you if you want to confuse your
enemy, be confused yourself. I don't
think we know what the going on.
I don't think there really is a exit
strategy. And if there is, what? We tuck
tail and run. We just say, "All right,
guys, we're packed up. We did everything
we had to do. Let's go. You mean to tell
me that terrorist regime is completely
wiped out?
You mean to tell me that the that the
the new regime won't seek anything any
further?
That easy?
You didn't There's no regime change. You
just pissed off more people.
Let the American people know who you
talking to. Let us see who we're you
know you negotiating with. What are the
new What's the new Iran going to look
like? We won't got to come back in like
four years, 10 years from now.
I don't know. I think it's a
I'm praying, hey, two weeks we're out of
here or he's got some exciting news and
not just another stock pump. I really
hope it is some exciting good news. And
I mean, we just did like the
negotiations and they completely failed
with JD Vans.
I don't know. Two more weeks. I would
love to see it love to see us get out in
two weeks.
I would like to see it sooner than that,
but
geopolitically it's going to look pretty
u can look embarrassing to the countries
who allegedly hate us. Like, yo, you
y'all can't even fight a war, right?
What was accomplished?
You know, I I want to I want to touch on
something because you keep touching on a
point that I don't want to go beyond
myself or the audience because I think
it's it's a very relevant point.
This supposedly was never about the
straight and it's so it's so interesting
how
you know the the the
narrative has shifted so quickly.
>> You know the straight
was open before the war started.
>> There was no mention of this straight.
>> Most people had never even heard of the
straight of Hamuz,
>> right?
>> That was not something that
was even discussed. It wasn't a factor
in the beginning. Mhm.
>> We get into this war, they shut down the
straight
and even if what you're saying is right,
meaning prior to us doing this interview
today,
Trump reopens his straight. It's like
you're claiming victory over something
that was the status quo
from day one, if not like the straight
was closed day one. And we went in there
to it was always open.
>> Yep. Yep.
>> You effed it up and got it closed.
>> Yep.
>> So now you're happy that the straight
like is this really a win? Like come on.
Like it it's just crazy to me that we're
we're we're being bambooed
>> and hoodwinkedked.
>> Yep. And people are actually gonna be
waving the Trump flag like he got the
straight. No, the straight was always
open.
>> Yep. Yep.
>> He he effed up and got it shut down.
>> That might be his back.
>> Now I should be happy that it's open
again,
>> right? That might be his fallback plan
like to get us out the war. It's like,
hey,
straight's open again. We won because
our Americans attention spans are so
short. We can't two week news cycles. We
live on reels. You know, I think that
the most of Yeah, a lot of the American
people might be like that that he could
use that as like the ex exit strategy
and say, "Look guys, we did it. War is
over. We don't have to mess with this.
The the straights open. We did it. Let's
pack up. We won. Mission accomplished.
George Bush style." Yeah.
Uh
>> yo, Nick, do you hear yourself? This is
freaking hilarious. The war's over. The
straights open.
>> Yep. We did it.
>> Something that was open from day one.
>> But a lot of people a lot of people are
going to overlook that. A lot of people
are going to overlook that
>> and completely forget because you got we
completely obliterated that that nuclear
program last year. What was it last
year? Earlier this year when we had
dropped
>> Absolutely.
>> Yeah. We dropped we did that little Tom
Cruz top secret mission flew in there
dropped some bombs and the side of a
mountain was like boom nuclear program
is good we're done but we had to go back
to do this whole nuclear thing and now
the whole thing turned into the straight
of Hormuz. So I think most of Americans
a lot of people are going to forget the
initial reason why we went in and this
whole thing looks like it's about the
straight and oil and the prices of
things going up.
It was already open before, but I think
we might use that as like our little
play to get out. Our mission
accomplished. We job well done troops.
We got the world's most powerful navy.
We completely took out their navy. We
did it. They can't block the straight.
Whatever. It's open. We won. It could be
that. It' be a hell of an exit strategy.
It'd be funny, but yeah, it could be.
Could be that. Well, I hope not. Watch
that Be it though. Watch it. Why
should it be like, "Hey, we set him so
far back in the straights open. We won.
Mission accomplished.
We about to have more money, more oil."
I don't know.
Nah, I mean, um,
this is
it's the most confusing.
I mean, it's it's a lot of people,
myself included, that don't agree with
this war
>> fact. Yeah. But it is beyond confusing.
>> Yeah.
>> Like it's one thing not to agree.
I don't even know the objectives
anymore.
>> Yeah. If we're all confused, the enemy's
got to be just as confused. Like, yo,
what the are we doing? What if what
are we doing? What what do we fight? We
We
know it's got to be They got to be just
as confused cuz I'm hella confused.
Like, what's the objective now at this
point?
They've already said America, we we've
said we've won so many times. The war
was over. They've claimed Iran's claimed
victory so many times, but now we got
the straight of our move and that's
whole that's a war in itself. Then the
island we was dropping bomb. We don't
know where to go or what to do. I'd be a
hella confused enemy. But I think it's
because we're hella confused, too. I
think the government's hella confused. I
think the people in charge of this whole
thing, initially it was supposed to be
this bombing campaign. We bombed the
out of them. We set their
facilities back X, Y, and Z. Then it
turned into I'm going to annihilate
everybody. Then it turned into, hey, I'm
about to close this straight. Matter of
fact, I'm going to open it and then
I'mma close it again. I The whole
thing's confusing. I think they're so
confused that it's confusing our enemy.
I think the whole world's confused.
Like, we don't know what the
going on. We got we we put our foot up
our own ass, shoved it up. Never mind.
That's a terrible analogy. Pause. I
think we just did somebody else's
bidding and got too involved with it and
we're just looking for an exit strategy
because the popularity of this whole
thing. It ain't there. I think we got
our hand up, you know, too far in the
damn cookie jar trying to help out
another country.
>> Nah. Nick, have you ever gotten into an
argument with somebody who's just so
irrational?
>> Yeah.
>> That somewhere in the middle of the
argument, you like, "Yo, what the I
don't even know what we arguing about no
more." Like, yo, you know what? You got
it. Like,
>> I got to get out of here cuz you just
plain crazy.
>> Yeah.
>> Like, why am I sitting spending my time
arguing with you
>> because you're just nuts.
>> Yeah. And and that's the way I feel like
the enemy must feel like what what are
we even doing here right now?
>> Exactly. That's what I think. That's
what I think. It's like is it over? Is
it not over? What are we fighting for
right now? We'll fight. I mean,
You punch me, I'mma punch you back. But
I mean, I just don't understand what the
going on.
I think they're just as confused, which
may be a good thing. Maybe that that was
the whole game plan was to go in there
and just confuse the out of
everybody. That way you don't know where
you might get you might get hit from. I
might hit you over here, over here. Hit
you with a Bruce Lee roundhouse kick.
Shoot. You don't know where I'm coming
from. Pause.
But I'm coming.
>> Yo, but you you want to know Iran is
I mean
you It's not like you could trust them
no more.
>> No.
>> Then you could trust our leadership
here. Like I read
is basically like, yo, we we can't open
the straits if we want
>> because we've put minds
>> in and around the straits and we don't
even know where we put them at now.
>> Come on. Come on. Everybody's
Everybody's confused. They're like,
"Hey, I I dropped some mines. I don't
know where the they at, though.
You'll find them. If they're there,
you'll find them."
Definitely. I don't Yeah. Everybody's
confused. This whole thing is like a big
cluster It's a soup sandwich. It's
a soup sandwich,
>> man. Like it's the craziest thing in the
world, man. But I mean, needless to say,
uh JD Vance,
>> vice president,
>> went to Pakistan.
>> He was leading the negotiations.
um comes back home empty-handed,
>> you know, and essentially he's like,
"Yo, Iran is sticking,
you know, to the point that they want
this nuclear program."
>> The US is essentially saying, "Yo, we
want you to stop enriching uranium for
at least 20 years." And they're also,
you know, as a US, we're going to put
other kinds of restrictions on you.
>> And Iran is like, screw you. Iran came
back, according to the New York Times
anyway, and they're like, "Yo, we we'll
agree to suspend
our uranium enrichment program for up to
not 5 years, but up to 5 years."
>> And
that seems to be the great divide right
there. Mhm.
>> They're like, "No, we are going to keep
going with this
uranium, enriching uranium and our
nuclear program."
>> Mhm.
So it brings me back to what you and I
always talk about
is Iran.
It's just just their way of saying screw
you. We will fight to the very end. We
are we're going to keep giving you
conditions that we know you will not
agree with because we've been down for
this fight and we've been prepared for
this fight long before you guys ever
even thought about fighting.
>> So, bring it on.
>> Yeah, 100%. That's what I think. I think
that they're going to keep hitting us
with I mean to be you got to go back to
when we were talking about how close we
were to a deal anyways. how it was
looking really good and this whole time
it's like these were the points.
We already knew that before we went to
Pakistan. But yeah, I think that Iran's
going to stick to their guns. You're
fighting a very resilient people
and if it is a terrorist regime, they're
not going to give up. They're going to
fight this thing down to the very last
Iranian ant. If that ant can pick up an
AK, they're gonna fight it out. It's
gonna go down that way. the everything
all the the points the bullet points and
things they're asking for they know
America is not going to be for it and if
they do if we do say okay well y'all can
do it up for up to 5 years then all that
means what we're going to come back in
another four or five years and do this
whole all over again
they know we're not going to do it and
if we do I mean
the master negotiator the best business
deal maker on the planet allegedly the
art of the deal couldn't get one they
should have sent that book over. I don't
know if JD read the book. He should have
read the book. We would have
been had to deal.
He didn't read it. But they Iran knows
Iran knows what they're doing. They
know.
Yeah. I mean, again, this is a very
confusing war we're in. Um,
you know, you touched on a point earlier
that I don't want to go
beyond this conversation because it was
very it's it's a very important point.
In 2015,
um, are you familiar? I I mean the
JCPOA,
the uh the joint comprehensive plan of
action, which is essentially the the
Iran nuclear deal that was struck
between Iran and the US, the UK, France,
China, Russia, and Germany.
>> Mhm.
>> That pretty much keeps
Iran from enriching uranium and getting
a nuclear bomb.
>> Mhm.
Trump gets in office and because and in
I said 2015 this deal was struck. Do you
know do do you know who the president
was in 2015?
>> Obama.
>> Exactly. So that deal wasn't good enough
just because it was struck under the
Obama administr administration.
>> Mhm.
So essentially,
he blows that deal up
>> and is now going to go in do whatever
the hell we're doing to be able to say,
"I actually
bought world peace
by making sure Iran doesn't have a
nuclear program, which hasn't been
confirmed that they even have
>> Exactly."
Exactly. Exactly.
But just because it was done under the
Obama administration,
he has to rip it up and go in and do and
and put us in a war that it's like, what
the f are we even doing here? That's a
different level of spite. That's a
different level of spite.
You don't like I mean,
you're Yeah, you're 100% right. I think
that
none of us, the average American person,
people, we don't we don't know without a
shadow of a doubt that they have nuclear
programs.
We have no idea what they have. This is
the same group of politicians, the same
government, the same system that told us
the about Iraq.
You don't know. You can't believe what
uh I'm so traumatized by when the
government like if the government ever
says, "Hey, there's a country over here
with weapons of mass destruction and
they want to kill Americans. They want
to, you know, wipe us off the face of
the earth." My brain automatically just
goes back to Iraq 2003 and the leadup to
that. And it wasn't there. They had
some chlorine and some other like
no weapons of mass destruction was
found. My brain automatically goes back
to that. We don't know what the
they have over there in Iran.
This whole thing could Yeah, I think it
definitely could have been avoided.
And they also know that this deal Iran's
proposing is not even going to one, you
can't trust them. You think because they
sign a deal that they're like, "Hey,
we're not going to ever we're not going
to touch a nuclear weapon again. Our,
you know, try to enrich uranium if
that's what they're doing." Of course
they would. Why wouldn't they,
>> you know?
I mean on paper who knows what's you
know in reality but on paper there are
nine nuclear armed countries.
>> Mhm.
>> Russia holds the largest stockpile. New
York um the United States comes in
second.
>> Uh China they're they're actively
expanding their arsenal. France they
have a small arsenal but they have them.
Mhm.
>> The UK.
>> Mhm.
>> They have another small arsenal.
Pakistan.
>> Mhm.
>> They have a growing stockpile in India.
>> Yep.
>> Nowhere on that list is Iran.
Nowhere on that list.
>> Or Israel
>> or Israel for that matter.
>> I I think we could probably,
you know, uh rest assure that Israel has
a little stockpile of
>> Yeah. Yeah. Of course.
But
there there are eight additional
confirmed countries
with with
nuclear arsenals.
>> Mhm.
Why is
if if we know that we legitimately have
the means to take them out and these
other countries have the mean to take
them out?
Why do we have this phantom
war going on that it's about this
nuclear arsenal when it's not even
confirmed that they have them? that they
have the means to create them.
>> Yeah, the means to create. That's the
thing. I mean, I don't think they have a
nuclear weapon. I think we were using
this whole
We were trying to say like, hey, we
don't want them to be able to get an
arsenal or make a missile or make a
bomb. So, that's why they're not on the
list. But, I mean, who's to say that
we're just trying to like get nuclear
energy,
you know, power plants and like
that? It might have not been to, you
know, use it for a bomb.
I don't know. And why? I don't I have no
idea why we're even why some countries
are allowed to have them and some
countries don't.
I don't know. Our greatest enemies,
Russia, China, they got them. You don't
see us going to go bomb them.
A lot of other nine other country nine
countries have them. But why why are we
allowed to have them? Why are those nine
allowed to have them? We're respon
they're responsible. I don't know. Only
one person has dropped them. One people
or used them. But yeah, I ran I don't
think that they have them. I don't even
know the whole like what they believe
about the whole enrichment of uranium.
The average person has no idea what the
uranium even looks like or what it
looks like when it get Yeah. No idea. We
just go by what these politicians say.
Oh, they're going after they that
they're they're trying to, you know,
make a nuclear weapon, make this, make
that. Nah,
I'm very skeptical of our government and
the propaganda they put out. You don't
know what to believe. You really can't
believe nothing. You can't.
Why trust them about that, but they
knowingly lie about everything else? Why
do we take them with Oh yeah, Iran is
trying to obtain a nuclear weapon
because our government said so. But you
trust them now? Now you trust them.
Okay, you just like war. What is it? Why
do you trust them now?
>> You know, I I guess the point I was
trying to make is
in simple terms, the enemy of my enemy
is my friend. Mhm.
>> And
if in fact Iran has either nuclear
weapons or the capabilities to make them
and they already support terrorism
around the world,
then
Russia, China, Pakistan, all of the
countries that are confirmed to have
these arms,
we can't let them get those weapons
either because they become very
dangerous.
to all of us.
>> Mhm.
>> So, if if this was a a real threat, I
would have to believe that it wouldn't
just stop at the US,
>> you know, that would be saying, "Oh, we
have to shut this program down." The the
UK is is our ally.
>> Yeah. Yep.
>> Somehow some and and they have a nuclear
arsenal.
>> Mhm. But somehow someway they're backing
off this war. They're not even
supporting us.
>> Yep.
>> You know, so it's not even just our
enemies,
>> our allies like Trump. That's why Trump
was going after him. Trump was Yeah. He
was bad mouthing our allies, too.
>> Our allies who have put boots on the
ground with our boots on the ground. He
was bad mouthing them, too. I don't know
what allies we going to have after this
presidency. He hates it.
Everybody, like I said, Trump's throwing
hands with everybody. So, I don't know
who's going to be our ally after this,
but you're right. Even our own allies,
they want no part of this war.
>> No, they don't. Um, and and I don't
believe that they have bought into the
propaganda. Exactly. That's, you know,
what I what I really think it comes down
to because if if that was really the
case,
>> they'd all be in
>> Exactly. Because they'd be they'd be in
danger, too, if that were the case.
They'd be in danger, too. Correct. Yep.
Yep. Yep.
Yeah, like like we can't let like these
guys are reckless. They they support
terrorist groups. So, we know if they
get their hand on a nuclear arsenal,
>> it could be death and destruction,
>> you know, not just to the US, but to to
the entire world. Like, we don't know
where they going to flip the script and
and go rogue.
>> Yep.
>> So, we got to shut this down. So it it
got to raise some eyebrows when you see
our allies as well as our enemies that
actually have a nuclear stockpile
that are like good luck. You're on your
own, USA.
>> Yeah.
>> Just get that straight open.
>> Right. Right. Cuz it wasn't about
nuclear. It was about nuclear nothing.
It had nothing to do about that.
>> Correct. Correct. All right. Before I
let you out of here, my brother, what's
your prediction in the next seven days?
>> Next seven days, we going to be right
back where we started.
Next seven next seven days, I think that
some shit's going to happen on the Harmu
straight. Trump's going to make a
vague post
about, oh, some great news is coming up.
And then we get the news and it turns
out not to be so great. And we're gonna
be there for a few more weeks, maybe
months. Hope I'm wrong, but we're gonna
get a lot of the next seven days. What
we're gonna get is a lot of A
lot of and a lot of
backtracking and a lot of stuff being
said that wasn't wasn't true. That's
what I think. I'm just going off of
pattern recognition. This whole entire
thing has just been nothing but that.
So, I think we going to continue that
that same pattern.
>> Boots on the ground or no? Not right
now. Not right now. I don't know. Not
right now. I don't think so. I I ran
would have to do something so out of
pocket to force that hand. I don't think
so right now. I hope I hope not. I hope
I'm I'm Yeah, I don't think so right
now. Not within the next seven days.
That would that would only extend that
would only extend the war by months if
not a year plus.
And if he Yeah. Yeah, if you want to get
out of this war and this conflict, you
don't put boots on the ground.
We're looking for a way out. I think our
way out's going to be, "Hey, straight's
open, y'all. We did it."
>> Yeah. The straight was open all along.
We went in there and the straight was
open.
>> Yep.
>> That's our win.
>> Yep.
>> Unbelievable.
>> Unfreaking believable.
>> Y'all see how I got those gas prices
back down? I did that.
Yeah. To where they were before the war.
>> Yeah. Hey, we ain't worried about that,
though. Uhuh. Uh-uh. That don't count.
I'm talking about right now. I'm talking
about right now.
Them gas prices are high. I brought them
down. You're welcome. Mission
accomplished.
>> Well, if it helps, I do agree with you.
I I think we are looking for a way out.
I think we're looking for a way out
primarily, and I keep saying this week
over week. Uh,
this administration's approval rating is
at an all-time low and it will continue
to be.
>> Um, these midterms are coming up in
November. Do not think for one second
that this administration is not
reminding the president of that every
single day. Mhm.
>> They are saying, "How the hell do we get
out of this war and look like it was a
victory so that these ratings can go
back up before November because we stand
to lose it all?
>> There is is literally going to be the
blue wave
>> in November if we don't fix this."
>> All right, Nick, as always, I enjoy you.
Um, great insight, great perspective as
always. Can't wait to do this thing
again next week. I love you and I think
I speak for the people when we say we
cannot wait to hear your perspective
again.
>> Same here, brother. I appreciate it.
>> Thank you.