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Nicholas Irving on Trump Ultimatum to Iran, The Strait of Hormuz & Stock Market (Full Interview)
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00:00 Here

00:05 we go. We back with the war report.

00:09 >> Yes, sir.

00:10 >> Indepth

00:13 raw conversation about what's going on

00:15 in the Middle East. And I got to welcome

00:17 back to the hot seat my brother Sergeant

00:21 Nicholas Irvin. Nick, what up?

00:23 >> Hey, what's going on? What's going on?

00:25 Crazy, crazy, crazy news. I just texted

00:29 news.

00:29 >> I just texted you to uh from like the

00:31 Hill um the Hill

00:35 media or news report or something like

00:36 that of um yeah what we were just

00:39 talking about. But it's what Trump says.

00:42 We'll see.

00:43 >> Okay. I mean, let's jump right into it.

00:45 According to what you just text me,

00:47 Trump has just reopened

00:50 the straight of her moves. Did Did I get

00:52 that correct?

00:53 >> Yeah. He says permanently. Permanently.

00:55 This is coming like what a day after he

00:58 had it. He used to put like the naval

01:01 blockade to you know close the straight

01:04 even though he didn't care about the

01:05 straight and then he wanted Iran to open

01:08 the straight so he could close it

01:10 because they had it closed. I mean the

01:12 whole thing is is is weird and he's like

01:15 praising uh China and um asking them are

01:20 it was like a deal in exchange that if

01:22 he opens it uh they will no longer like

01:25 traffic use that straight to traffic

01:26 arms to Iran.

01:29 This is a weird the whole thing is the

01:30 whole thing is weird. None of this makes

01:32 sense like militarily in my opinion. The

01:35 back and forth that we don't care about

01:37 the straight don't need it. We want it

01:39 open now we want it closed. the whole

01:41 thing is is an awkward play. And then

01:44 like to praise China, it's like I

01:45 thought China was helping them, you

01:47 know.

01:50 >> You know, I you did send me the tweet.

01:52 Um I looked at it. Truth be told, I

01:55 don't I don't know if that's fake news.

01:57 I don't know if it's real because

01:59 obviously this is breaking right before,

02:02 >> you know, we're having this

02:03 conversation. So I I'm gonna take it at

02:07 face value.

02:08 >> The straightest reopen, right? I agree.

02:11 And it just it could be a stock market

02:13 manipulation like he's been doing that

02:15 this entire

02:18 >> campaign, this entire war, it's all been

02:20 like stock manipulation. It's a lot of

02:22 back and forth and right before the

02:25 stock market opens up. He drops some

02:27 news to manipulate it because the stock

02:29 market, you know, for the most part,

02:31 it's going to go off of uh the hype, not

02:34 the actual news. It's going to sell on

02:36 the news, but it's going to buy and go

02:37 up on the hype.

02:41 Nah, I mean this guy has been manu, you

02:44 know what the what the crazy thing is?

02:46 He's been manipulating the stock market

02:49 since he has gotten in office.

02:52 >> Facts. Facts.

02:54 >> But the craziest part, he tells you.

02:56 >> Yep.

02:56 >> He literally tells you.

02:58 >> Yep.

02:59 >> You know how he's, you know, good for

03:02 the stock market. uh how he literally

03:07 is doing things that can make the stock

03:09 market go crazy.

03:11 >> Yep. Yep.

03:13 >> It's insane that we have a

03:15 commander-in-chief that is all but

03:18 admitting to,

03:20 >> you know, crimes.

03:22 This is insider trading at his best. I'm

03:25 sure before he makes before he puts

03:27 these tweets out,

03:29 >> there a couple of phone calls to his

03:31 good friends.

03:32 >> Yeah. that are going out and like, yo,

03:35 you know, either buy now

03:38 >> or or or dump what you have right now

03:41 because there's there's a a post about

03:43 to go up.

03:43 >> Exactly. Exactly. I mean, you look at

03:45 all the the congressmen, congresswoman,

03:48 you know, people up in office and look

03:50 at their their portfolio or look at

03:53 their their net worth just skyrocket.

03:55 And that goes for the majority of them,

03:56 like 99.9% of them. And it's like you're

03:59 supposed to be getting paid a, you know,

04:02 measly, not measly, you know, six figure

04:05 salary, but then you have a net worth of

04:07 like 40 m, 60 m, 100 million, whatever

04:10 it may be. It's a lot of I mean, they

04:12 get the news first. You know, they know

04:14 when something's about to happen and

04:16 they buy up stock. They buy up, you

04:19 know, stock in Lockheed Martin if

04:21 there's a war about to happen and the

04:23 missiles and they they know what stocks

04:25 to buy and they know what stocks to sell

04:27 and they make bank off of it. It's a lot

04:29 of insider trading going on. I think

04:32 like it was like Nancy Pelosi, she had

04:34 um like she was outperforming

04:37 uh the S&P or the Dow, I forget what it

04:40 was. She was outperforming the stock

04:41 market with her, you know, insider

04:43 trading deals. I mean, all these

04:45 politicians get rich while they're while

04:47 they're in office. All of them do off of

04:49 a six figure salary.

04:52 You know, that that is 100% correct.

04:57 And it's it's one of those uh

05:01 open secrets, if you will. Everybody

05:03 knows about it. Nobody talks about it.

05:06 >> You know, these guys don't get paid a

05:08 ton of money. Don't get me wrong, six

05:10 figure salary is a great salary.

05:12 >> Facts. Yeah. But, you know, for the work

05:14 that they do, it it's not the most

05:18 money.

05:18 >> No.

05:20 >> That you can make. But they all somehow

05:22 someway leave office as

05:25 multi-millionaires.

05:26 >> Yeah.

05:27 >> And then they write their book.

05:29 >> Yeah.

05:29 >> And make more millions.

05:30 >> Yep. And their speaking engagements and

05:32 then they, you know, charge six figures

05:34 for that, million for that.

05:35 >> Correct.

05:36 >> They all do it. They all do it. why we

05:38 support it or why why that's allowed. I

05:40 mean, I don't I personally think that

05:43 these, you know, politicians shouldn't

05:45 even be allowed to touch the stock in my

05:48 opinion. I don't think they should be

05:49 able to. They know too much. They know

05:51 exactly how it's going to move, where

05:53 it's going to move, and they know how

05:54 much money to put up in there, and how

05:56 much money they're going to make out of

05:57 it. I don't think I mean, if they're

05:59 allowed to do that, I think we should

06:00 have some privy to it, too, as the

06:02 average, you know, American. But you got

06:05 people out trying to day trade and mine

06:08 Bitcoin for a few bucks and a toenail,

06:11 you know.

06:14 >> No, you're absolutely right. But that

06:16 would never happen. Number one. Number

06:18 two, um, you know, it kills me. These

06:21 politicians, uh, they sit and I don't

06:24 care what side of the aisle you sit on,

06:26 Republican, Democrat, independent,

06:28 whatever you are, you know, you you've

06:30 created your own party, whatever that

06:32 might look like.

06:36 They all

06:38 are in it for the hustle.

06:40 >> Facts. Yeah.

06:41 >> They can talk that we're for the people

06:43 crap all they want.

06:45 >> Yep. Yep.

06:46 >> But at the end of the day, this is the

06:49 hustle, they get it. It's It's one of

06:52 those open secrets nobody talks about.

06:55 Mhm.

06:56 >> And the higher they rise through the

06:58 ranks, you literally see their zip

07:01 codes, their area codes, the size of

07:04 their house.

07:05 >> It all changes.

07:06 >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They don't live like

07:09 Red Man, I tell you that.

07:11 >> They ain't living like that.

07:14 >> Oh man, I forgot about that. Oh, that

07:17 Cribs episode. My man Red Man.

07:20 >> Shout to Red Man for real. Okay. I I

07:22 want to take this conversation in a

07:24 different direction, then I'll bring it

07:25 back. Okay.

07:27 >> Uh

07:30 Melania Trump.

07:32 >> Yeah. Yeah.

07:33 >> I I want to say 24 48 hours after the

07:37 last time you and I sat down

07:39 >> Melania Trump out of the clear blue sky

07:43 >> calls a press conference.

07:45 >> Yep.

07:46 And she denies

07:50 everything to do with her and Jeffrey

07:54 Epste.

07:55 >> Yep.

07:56 >> Number one, do you believe her? Number

07:57 two, do you think that was random?

08:02 >> Do I believe her? I mean

08:06 Oh, man. I I don't

08:09 I Damn, that's a tough one. No. Be No, I

08:12 don't. I don't because who she's

08:15 involved with. I don't believe her and

08:18 100% I know for a fact it wasn't random.

08:21 I think something maybe starting to

08:23 trickle down are heading that way and

08:26 she's trying to jump ship before it hits

08:28 the iceberg.

08:30 I think that's what she was trying to

08:31 do. But it wasn't random. And I think

08:33 didn't wasn't like Trump surprised by it

08:36 too. He was caught off guard by it.

08:38 >> Yes. By his own words.

08:40 >> Yeah. And that's supposed to be his

08:42 wife. Well, I think it's more like a

08:43 contractual agreement, you know, type

08:45 deal. I don't think they really sleep

08:47 together, none of that. But

08:51 the fact that it caught him off guard,

08:53 maybe she might know something that's

08:56 about to come down that may implement

08:58 her because she's with him and it could

09:01 just be about, you know, Donald Trump. I

09:03 don't know what I mean, do I believe

09:05 her? I mean, to a degree, I guess. Do I

09:10 think that she was involved with Maxwell

09:13 and and trafficking and all this and

09:15 eating kids? No. I mean, I say that with

09:21 like 10%

09:24 uh

09:26 I don't know. I'm like 10% sure that

09:29 maybe she didn't. I don't know. But

09:31 she's involved with that crowd. But it

09:34 damn sure wasn't random. And we just

09:36 Yeah, you're right. We just talked about

09:37 the whole Epstein thing. Maybe when this

09:40 war does die down or when it and that's

09:41 when the Epstein thing kicks off and are

09:44 back up because the people haven't

09:45 forgot about it. I think we're going to

09:47 still keep asking about it because it

09:49 was too it's too much to ignore. I can

09:52 care less about the UFO disclosure stuff

09:54 right now at this point. Let me know

09:56 who's eating kids, you know,

09:59 so we as American people can get our

10:01 hunt on.

10:04 >> You know, number one, I'm with you. I

10:07 don't think it was random. Mhm.

10:09 >> Uh at all. Um

10:13 this didn't just come out of the clear

10:15 blue sky,

10:16 >> right?

10:16 >> Just to give the audience some context,

10:19 there was a book um that came out that

10:21 has, you know, it's still on the

10:24 shelves, but uh it was put out by Harper

10:26 Collins UK, the publisher. Um the book

10:29 is entitled is called Entitled, written

10:33 by Andrew Lowey. And within the book,

10:39 he loosely insinuates that

10:43 not only did uh Epstein introduce

10:46 Melania to Trump, but Epstein had a

10:50 relationship with Melania before Trump.

10:53 >> Oh, I didn't know that.

10:55 >> And yeah, so

10:58 Melania,

11:00 needless to say, is furious. She sends

11:02 her lawyers. Um, and

11:05 you know, they go after Harper Collins.

11:07 Harper Collins puts out an apology.

11:10 >> But I do think that

11:12 it's bigger than that. And the reason I

11:14 think that it's bigger than that is

11:18 just you. Nobody can convince me that in

11:23 addition to oil,

11:25 >> in addition to precious minerals, in

11:27 addition to doing uh Israel's bidding,

11:32 uh this war is and was a deflection of

11:37 the Epstein case.

11:38 >> Yeah. Yeah.

11:39 >> That that much I believe to be 100%

11:41 true.

11:45 But I got to wonder what the f is going

11:49 on in that White House when your wife,

11:52 like just when you get all of

11:56 the media outlets completely focused on

11:59 the war, your wife decides to give a

12:02 press conference, no less, and it's

12:05 entirely about

12:08 the Epstein files and it's Epstein case.

12:11 And she brings it right back front and

12:13 center.

12:15 Donald has got to be like, "Yo,

12:18 you're worse than Jada Pink. Like, you

12:20 are legitimately worse than that chick."

12:24 >> Oh. Oh. Oh, we got him with the Jada.

12:28 God. Yeah. You can't trust.

12:31 >> I mean, please tell me. Did you Did you

12:32 see that Jada?

12:34 >> Yes. Yes. Yes. I mean, at what point I

12:37 mean, Will should have not slapped Butch

12:39 McCall. You should have slapped that B

12:41 for real. I mean, damn. And you making

12:44 me look that bad. I I don't care. I wife

12:48 or not. I mean, I don't know what type

12:50 of prenuptual agreement they have, but

12:52 brother, it ain't worth it. It ain't

12:54 worth it to get out. I mean, but I don't

12:56 know. Maybe he might be into that,

12:58 though. Maybe he might like the public

13:00 humiliation type deal. I'll just look

13:02 like that. I mean, Will ain't going to

13:05 slap me. I promise you that. But damn,

13:09 Melania did pull a Jada. She did pull

13:12 into

13:14 >> I mean I don't know I don't like I don't

13:16 know how much money Trump is paying

13:17 Melania to play his wife but it ain't it

13:21 ain't worth it. I I don't think it's

13:23 worth it. I don't but I at one point

13:26 remember when Trump even talked about he

13:28 was like

13:30 I don't even care about the Epstein

13:32 files. He's like I want you know

13:33 basically wanted it to go away. He

13:35 didn't care about it. It was the the us

13:37 the people who kept bringing it up to,

13:39 you know,

13:41 making it trend or or bringing bring up

13:43 the Epstein files to put it at the

13:46 forefront so he would acknowledge it

13:47 even though he doesn't want to and

13:49 doesn't allegedly care about it and his

13:51 name's all in it. I mean, I don't know

13:54 what Melania's whole game plan is. Maybe

13:56 it it it could be to distance herself

14:00 because she knows I got some information

14:02 about, hey, some names are about to

14:04 drop, some more intel is about to drop

14:06 because we keep getting a redacted. How

14:09 many times can you, you know, be

14:11 transparent, but give us this redacted

14:14 or, you know, files you've already seen

14:17 before. I don't know how long they can

14:19 keep that up before it's just like, hey,

14:20 give it to us straight. They did more

14:22 damage to the survivors survivors than

14:24 they did the people who actually

14:25 committed the crimes.

14:28 >> I think maybe she might know something.

14:31 And if that's the case, then yeah, Trump

14:34 Trump might be in for something. But

14:36 some I'm sure somebody got slapped

14:38 behind the scenes. I'm sure somebody got

14:40 slapped.

14:42 >> Put it this way. Anybody who did get

14:45 slapped,

14:47 it was probably the wrong person.

14:49 >> Oh,

14:49 >> because she has Trump

14:52 >> clearly by the nuts.

14:55 >> Yeah.

14:56 >> You know, I mean, she I mean,

15:02 anybody who

15:05 has been married, anybody who is

15:07 married, anybody who's actually in a

15:09 relationship, you can tell

15:12 >> when it's real. You can tell when

15:14 there's love there. You can tell when

15:18 you are two people who are in a a in a

15:22 relationship and and it's based on love

15:26 and trust.

15:29 That ain't them.

15:30 >> No.

15:31 >> You know, when you look at them,

15:33 >> you know what I see? I see Rick Ross and

15:35 his girls. He can't get a kiss on the

15:38 mouth or whatever. Rick Ross and his

15:40 girls.

15:40 >> There you go.

15:41 >> That's what I see. That's how I compare

15:43 Trump and Melania. Those type

15:44 relationships, it's like the girl want

15:47 nothing to do with you. They're there

15:49 for the money. I mean, she got

15:51 >> I compare Will and Jada, man. I I really

15:54 do.

15:54 >> Yeah.

15:55 >> At this point, I I don't I don't know

15:58 that Will could get a kiss on her lips.

16:01 >> Jada's made it clear we we live in

16:03 separate houses. And although

16:06 >> Trump and Melania live in the White

16:08 House, I'm sure they haven't slept in

16:11 the same bedroom.

16:12 >> Oh, fact.

16:13 >> Since before his first term.

16:15 >> Yeah. Since when since when they were

16:16 hanging out with Epstein,

16:18 >> you know, I mean, the pictures were up.

16:20 The pictures are there. You know, the

16:22 pictures are obviously there. I don't

16:23 know how the the the relationship with

16:26 Epstein or Maxwell, but there are

16:28 pictures of them hanging out together at

16:30 a party, a few of them. So,

16:34 >> but you you you want to know and and we

16:36 can move this thing on after that

16:38 because it's all speculation, but I

16:40 would I tr I wouldn't be surprised if

16:44 she's got her little thing going on that

16:46 he's aware of. Like, yo, I I I come and

16:51 I pretend to be your wife in public.

16:53 I'll, you know, you give the State of

16:55 the Union, I'm going to go and I'mma sit

16:57 there for two hours. I I'm going to

17:01 literally be there when you know we get

17:04 on and off of Air Force One.

17:08 >> But you're on that wing of the house.

17:10 I'm on this wing of the house. I sneak

17:12 my little dude in.

17:14 >> It's one of the Secret Service agents.

17:16 That's who it is.

17:16 >> Probably.

17:17 >> Yeah. Yeah. I don't blame him. I mean,

17:21 >> hey, I I don't know. I don't know.

17:24 I might try to get Doc Dmore after me,

17:26 though, so I'm good. I'm good.

17:30 Okay, switch topics with me. Uh, you

17:33 know, the the Democrats,

17:38 they're they're going, you know, they're

17:41 they're going right from the playbook.

17:43 >> Um, you know, they they want to invoke

17:46 the 25th Amendment.

17:48 >> They want this man impeached.

17:53 Is this

17:56 in your opinion justified or is it just

17:59 the Democrats

18:02 with another lame weak attempt to get

18:04 Trump out of office?

18:05 >> I think it's another lame weak attempt.

18:07 I mean, is it justified? Um

18:12 um I I don't I don't I don't agree and I

18:15 don't like what he's doing as as as as

18:17 president. you know, he completely

18:19 flipped on everything he said he was

18:21 going to do. So, I don't agree with, you

18:24 know, his policies right now. This Yeah,

18:26 I don't agree with nothing he's doing

18:28 right now. Um, but they pulled his last

18:30 presidency and he was impeached. Stay

18:33 president. Nothing happened. He would

18:34 just had that, you know, that little

18:36 asterisk beside his name, impeached. I

18:39 mean, this is not the Bill Clinton days.

18:41 You know, nothing's going to happen. I

18:44 think it's just the Democrats being

18:45 Democrats just to it's to it's always to

18:48 create some type of divide in America.

18:51 That's it. We didn't There's nothing

18:52 united about this country whatsoever.

18:55 It's a two-p partyy system and one side

18:58 has to make it look like that they're

18:59 hating what the other side's doing. So,

19:01 they pull these little tricks, cats out

19:04 the cats out the bag, rabbit out the hat

19:06 type trick. It's like it doesn't mean

19:09 nothing. It's just a show. It's all a

19:11 show so the people can see, oh, the

19:13 Democrats hate the Republicans. It gives

19:15 them that one slide something to fight

19:17 for and then the Republicans, they can

19:20 point the finger and be like, "Oh, the

19:21 Democrats are always doing X, Y, and Z."

19:23 And I don't think it holds any merit

19:26 behind it. But I also don't agree with

19:28 nothing he's doing as president either.

19:30 You know, I think this whole war thing

19:32 kind of it it put a lot of people in a

19:35 position to where they have you almost

19:38 like can't support it. I mean, and if

19:41 you do, it's like, but give me your

19:42 reasons why. Let's be honest. Do we

19:45 really believe Iran was like two weeks

19:48 away for the past few decades from

19:52 obtaining a a nuclear weapon? Nobody

19:54 goes after Israel. You know, JFK tried

19:58 it and we all know what happened to him

20:00 back into the left when he start trying

20:03 to, hey, yeah, let's go check out to see

20:05 if Israel has some nuclear weapons. And

20:08 they said, "No, we don't want any

20:10 inspectors over here." You know, they

20:12 got them. Why are they allowed to have

20:14 them?

20:16 I don't know. The whole new I don't

20:17 think anybody should have nuclear

20:18 weapons. I think Yeah, I don't think

20:20 anybody, you know, you can't do nothing

20:22 about it now. You can't like destroy

20:24 them all. Somebody's always going to

20:26 have them. But then there's only one

20:28 people on this planet, one nation that

20:30 has actually used a weapon of that

20:33 nature, the atomic bomb. Not just once,

20:35 but twice. There's only one and that's

20:38 us. No one else has used them. I don't

20:42 know. But I definitely think Yeah,

20:46 it's all a show. All a show.

20:50 >> Nah, you know, the Democrats

20:55 I I don't know how you can get it wrong

20:58 so consistently.

21:01 It it it baffles me

21:04 to think how this party continuously

21:10 gets the most basic things wrong. And

21:13 and what I mean by that is

21:16 you're talking

21:18 invoking the 25th amendment, right?

21:21 >> Mhm.

21:22 >> Well, guess what? You did that twice in

21:26 his first term.

21:27 >> Yeah. Yeah. The guy was impeached twice.

21:30 Like he wasn't just impeached.

21:32 >> Yeah.

21:32 >> He was impeached twice.

21:34 >> Yeah. Yeah.

21:36 >> And it meant nothing. It did nothing

21:39 because Donald Trump has positioned

21:43 himself as the ultimate victim. M

21:46 >> he has positioned himself as

21:51 I

21:53 am strong enough to take all of the

21:56 blows

21:57 for

21:59 the people who cannot take the blows.

22:03 >> The people who in our society who are

22:05 unheard and unseen.

22:08 >> So when they come after me, they're

22:11 essentially coming after you. and

22:15 Democrats going at them. They've had

22:17 them. Like, let's just call it what it

22:19 is.

22:21 >> The talking points of inflation,

22:25 >> um, the talking points of

22:28 you can't afford to pay your rent, you

22:31 can't the the the the the rising cost of

22:34 food and gas.

22:36 >> Right before this war happened, you saw

22:40 that talk was resonating.

22:42 >> Yeah. Yeah. because they're talking to I

22:45 don't care what side of the aisle you're

22:47 on.

22:47 >> Yeah.

22:49 >> That affects you.

22:50 >> Mhm.

22:52 >> But to now move your talking points away

22:55 from what was working, I actually

22:58 believe they're helping Trump.

23:00 >> Yeah. Yeah.

23:01 >> Like honestly, I mean, do do you see

23:04 where I'm coming from with this?

23:05 >> Oh, yeah. It's I think it's it's the

23:07 illusion of it's all like the illusion.

23:10 I I think they all work together. This

23:12 is like the WWE. Politics is is nothing

23:15 more than the, you know, a WWE for

23:19 people who believe in politics. Like

23:21 Hulk Hogan really doesn't hate the

23:23 Undertaker. You know, it's the same with

23:26 the Democrats and and and Trump. I don't

23:28 think they really hate them. They put

23:29 out these little things to make it look

23:31 like, oh, we got them. We're going after

23:33 them. But like you said, they keep

23:34 making the same consistent mistakes.

23:37 It's got to be on purpose. These are

23:38 supposed to be some of the smartest

23:40 people our country has to offer. We got

23:42 like 400 million people in this country

23:44 and these are supposed to be the

23:45 brightest, the smartest, most

23:47 intellectual, but they're dumb as

23:49 Like all of them. They're pretty They're

23:52 pretty stupid. So I I know it's

23:55 a game. I know it's just all for show to

23:57 make us believe something that ain't

23:59 real. It's none of it's real. They all

24:02 work together. Trump's making them rich.

24:03 Why would they really want to get rid of

24:05 him? That's why nothing happened after

24:06 the first two impeachments. He was

24:08 making them rich behind the scenes.

24:10 Stock market stock insider trading. Why

24:13 get rid of the dude who's make who's

24:14 pumping your pockets up like that?

24:17 You're getting paid very well.

24:21 >> No, I mean like you said, these are

24:24 supposed to be some of the smartest

24:25 people in the room and they consistently

24:28 show you. I mean, for anybody who's

24:30 listening who looks at the television or

24:35 or looks online and they see these

24:37 well-dressed politicians and you think,

24:39 "Oh my god, they must be so much smarter

24:42 than the average." No, they're not.

24:44 >> No,

24:44 >> no, they're not.

24:46 >> They pretend to be.

24:48 >> They they they prop themselves up. They

24:51 got a bet might have a better vocabulary

24:52 here and there. Mhm.

24:55 >> They looked apart, but the truth is

24:58 >> they're very they're not intelligent

25:00 people. They're just not.

25:02 >> No,

25:03 >> there is no intelligence in making the

25:06 same exact mistake again and again and

25:09 again and again.

25:11 >> And here's where I will give Trump his

25:12 props. I really will.

25:15 Just as

25:17 in my opinion, right before this war

25:19 started, the Democrats had the right

25:22 talking points. They should have stayed

25:24 on inflation. They should have stayed on

25:25 the cost of living. And now they pivoted

25:27 and they're going right back to what

25:29 they did in the first term.

25:30 >> Mhm.

25:32 >> Trump, the liar he is,

25:36 >> he I mean, this guy is a straight liar

25:38 cuz we know that this is all about

25:40 lining his pockets. But where I will

25:44 give him his props,

25:47 he speaks to the people and he speaks in

25:53 a way. He doesn't speak like a

25:54 politician. He speaks in a way.

25:56 >> Yeah.

25:57 >> That he seems like he's one of them.

25:59 >> Yeah.

26:00 >> Lying all the way to the bank. You know,

26:02 the first time he got in office, he

26:03 promised everybody, hey, you know,

26:06 >> the the the fossil fuels we're keeping.

26:08 We I'm going to to to Pennsylvania and

26:11 I'm going to West Virginia and we're

26:12 going to reopen all of these coal mines

26:15 and this that

26:16 >> none of them are reopen.

26:18 >> All of those guys are still out of a

26:19 job.

26:22 >> This guy will tell you exactly what you

26:24 want to hear till he gets exactly what

26:26 he wants out of you

26:29 >> and then he's on to the next and he and

26:31 it's been working.

26:33 >> The Democrats just haven't figured that

26:35 out. They they are they stand on this

26:37 freaking moral high ground and they

26:39 consistently are making these weak

26:43 just utterly stupid decisions trying to

26:46 be holier than thou and they're killing

26:48 us.

26:49 >> Mhm. They don't they don't sit with the

26:51 people. And I I think they're using that

26:54 same playbook from way back when, you

26:55 know, in the 90s, 80s or whatever of

26:59 we're going to get the black vote, you

27:01 know, black people vote Democrat,

27:04 whatever. I think they're just sticking

27:06 with that same They don't know how to

27:07 speak to the people. Like you said, it's

27:09 it's become holier than now attitude. It

27:12 it gets nobody anywhere. They're not

27:15 they Yeah. Well, all politicians for

27:18 that matter, majority are like that.

27:19 They're not Yeah. All of them. They're

27:22 not for the people. None of them are. I

27:24 mean, you really can't hate on them for

27:26 showing who they really are. They're not

27:28 for the people. They put on the act, but

27:31 it ain't it ain't about us. Michael

27:33 Jackson. Ben told us

27:37 >> that's right. You know,

27:41 something something that was unexpected

27:44 happened this week. Uh maybe you saw it

27:47 coming. I didn't see it coming, but

27:51 Tucker Carlson,

27:53 Megan Kelly,

27:55 >> Candace Owens, Alex Jones,

27:59 >> um Nick Fuentes, just to name a few,

28:04 all came out

28:07 scorching

28:08 >> the president.

28:09 >> Yeah.

28:10 >> Now, these were people

28:12 >> big time

28:12 >> who were on the front line. Literally

28:15 the front line. If there are soldiers on

28:17 the front line, it was them.

28:18 >> Yeah, that's facts.

28:20 >> You know,

28:23 saying this is our guy. We believe in

28:26 America.

28:27 And all of a sudden, out of the clear

28:29 blue sky, supposedly out of the clear

28:32 blue sky, at one time they all turn on

28:37 their Lord and Savior. Yeah. President

28:39 Trump.

28:40 >> What do you even make of that?

28:43 I think they speak for a lot of that

28:45 side, the MAGA side, whatever, the

28:48 Republican side. I think that

28:51 people are upset, a lot of them, with

28:53 the vote that they put in for Trump

28:55 because of what what he's doing

28:57 politically, you know, what he's doing

29:00 with the war in Iran. I think a lot of

29:02 it didn't sit well with people. It

29:04 doesn't resonate. and they see him being

29:06 controlled by the opposition or he sees

29:09 he they see we all see him being

29:11 controlled by our greatest ally. That's

29:14 what I think that

29:16 and why a lot of people are upset and

29:18 and turning because he was supposed to

29:20 be America first and it clearly isn't

29:22 America first. It is it is it is not

29:26 America first. It's it's we're making

29:27 Israel great again. That's what it is.

29:30 And they don't like that. And I think

29:33 that we we were supposed to be richer.

29:37 Prices were supposed to go down X, Y,

29:39 and Z. But I mean, still we $40 billion

29:43 a year annually. Still got to go over to

29:46 Israel to make them good. And we got to

29:48 still fight their wars. We still got to

29:49 die for them. You know, taxpayer still

29:53 has to front the bill. I just think

29:55 people are tired of it. And because he

29:57 was a frontr runner, all those people

29:59 supported him and he was all about no

30:02 new wars, no, you know, gas is going to

30:05 be cheaper and and the cost of eggs and

30:07 groceries are going to go down. And now

30:10 the those ones on the front line, those

30:13 soldiers saw the and they were

30:16 right for just calling them out.

30:17 Everybody, we have we have a right to do

30:19 that, to call them out. He didn't like

30:21 it and he start calling him, you know,

30:23 with third rate podcast or whatever the

30:26 But I'm like, bro, you was

30:27 literally on a few of them. You was

30:30 literally on the phone with Alex Jones

30:32 during his podcast when he was helping

30:34 you get elected. Mel Megan Kelly was a

30:37 front runner. I think he she did an

30:40 interview with him, you know, and he

30:42 turned he I mean, he's going after

30:44 he he's scorched earth right now. He

30:46 said, "Fuck y'all." And the Pope, you

30:48 know, he's going after everybody right

30:50 now. Everybody mocking Christianity with

30:54 the the the Jesus Road meme blessing

30:57 some dude. And he was like, "I thought

30:59 it was the Red Cross." I'm like, "Bro,

31:01 come on. You can't be that. You supposed

31:03 to be the smartest dude on the planet

31:05 playing 17 dimensional chess. You can't

31:07 even get You don't know what that is,

31:09 but you supposed to be a Christian." I

31:11 don't know. I mean, we all know he's not

31:12 Christian. We all know that. But he's

31:15 just he said everybody. He's going

31:17 and Israel or Iran,

31:20 Megan Kelly, Nick for Alex Jones,

31:23 all these people. And you know what? I'm

31:26 just going to go ahead and scorch a

31:27 little bit more. And the Pope, too.

31:30 And Christianity.

31:32 Let you know he did a press conference.

31:34 Y'all should look it up where he was

31:37 doing like this Apac thing for, you

31:39 know, pre press conference. And one of

31:43 the dudes got up on stage was Trump and

31:46 he's like, "Hey, this is the greatest

31:48 our first Jewish president." And Trump

31:51 was like, "Yeah, that's right. That's

31:53 right. I love his We all know what it

31:56 is. They're just calling him out on it.

31:59 He's he his true colors are showing

32:01 because he feels like his back is

32:03 against the wall cuz all those people,

32:05 his his best soldiers in in the war are

32:08 all turning on him right now." And he

32:10 didn't like that. And we all know the

32:11 ego is fragile.

32:15 >> You know

32:17 it. I first want to address

32:21 his frontlininers

32:24 >> that just turned on him.

32:28 According to them,

32:30 they said, you know, enough was enough.

32:33 the straw that broke the camel's back

32:34 was when he put that uh post up saying

32:38 that he was going to wipe out

32:39 >> the civil

32:40 >> a civilization

32:42 um you know they they absolutely had it

32:46 when he went at it with the pope

32:49 >> and you know said he's not a Christian

32:52 he's not a real Christian this that and

32:54 the third

32:54 >> wild and it goes against all of their

32:56 Christian values.

32:58 >> Uh-huh.

32:59 >> Okay, I hear you. But that's got to be

33:02 some of the biggest BS.

33:05 >> Like that is some like y'all

33:09 Megan,

33:11 Candace,

33:12 Alex, Nick, Tucker, y'all was so

33:17 offended

33:19 with this

33:21 post that he put up on Easter morning

33:24 saying, "I'm going to wipe out an entire

33:26 civilization and I'm going to send them

33:28 back to the Stone Age.

33:31 You're telling me that trumped

33:35 37 felony convictions?

33:39 That trumped

33:41 this guy being a convicted rapist.

33:45 That trumped

33:49 three wives. You're you're such a

33:51 Christian. You don't believe in uh uh

33:53 divorce.

33:55 >> Let's not forget this guy has three

33:56 wives.

33:57 >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

33:59 You know, let's not forget that this guy

34:04 was convicted of of

34:07 sleeping with uh what Stormmy Daniels,

34:11 >> a porn star.

34:13 >> Where were you where was this moral high

34:16 ground when all of that was going on?

34:19 It it literally took a post saying, "I'm

34:23 gonna send Iran back to the stone ages

34:26 that just happened to come out on Easter

34:28 Sunday." That was

34:31 I'm done with him. He's just lost it.

34:36 >> But you supported him the whole way with

34:39 every lie, with every conviction, with

34:42 every untruth. Like, are you kidding me?

34:46 So, I got to believe that there's

34:49 something greater happening behind the

34:51 scenes, Nick. There's no way that all of

34:54 them just turn against him in the same

34:57 week. And it's, you know, this guy has

35:00 done,

35:02 you know,

35:04 he he he

35:07 is 100% linked to this Epstein case.

35:11 That wasn't enough.

35:12 >> Yeah, that's facts. Fact. that you I

35:14 mean that's facts.

35:15 >> Yeah,

35:16 >> we know that.

35:17 >> Yeah,

35:18 >> this guy manipulates the stock market.

35:22 >> This guy he has

35:25 done reprehensible stuff.

35:30 But it's a post really

35:34 >> that that's what made you turn against

35:36 your leader, Lord and Savior.

35:38 >> No, there's something else going on. No

35:40 one.

35:40 >> What is it? What is it? I think I mean

35:43 whatever it is, it has to be deep. And

35:45 like they're they're doing the whole

35:47 Melania thing. It wasn't just that

35:49 group. Melania is kind of doing it too.

35:51 Melania is kind of doing it too. Like

35:53 hey Uhuh. I don't know what it is. Is it

35:56 the Epstein stuff? No, it can't be

35:58 because you're right. He's already been

36:00 mentioned in the Epstein files multiple

36:02 times.

36:04 I don't know what it could be. I mean,

36:05 if if and you're right, like if it

36:07 really did offend their religion that

36:10 much, then yeah, you can backtrack

36:12 decades and find like, hey, that that

36:14 that goes against what we believe in. I

36:17 mean, the fact that they actually

36:18 believe that he is Christian blows my

36:20 mind. It it absolutely. Isn't his

36:23 daughter like Jewish or something?

36:26 >> Yeah. I think that she converted when

36:28 she married uh

36:29 >> Kush. Yeah.

36:30 >> Kushner. There you go.

36:31 >> Yeah. So,

36:34 and like he's Yeah, I think that's the

36:36 real president at this point. Um,

36:39 Kushner, but I don't I don't know what

36:41 it could be. Why is that the straw that

36:43 broke the camel's back? I don't know.

36:45 And they all did do it at the same time.

36:46 I don't think they got on the phone. I

36:49 would assume not. And like, organize

36:52 this. Let's go after Trump and and turn

36:54 our back on him cuz you're right. I

36:57 mean, that and like that's what's weird

36:59 about that whole movement. they put him

37:01 up on a pedestal that he's like the Lord

37:03 and Savior and then when he acts like it

37:07 or puts up post to to predict or um yeah

37:11 show his true colors like hey I really

37:13 do feel this way. I think that I'm

37:15 really like that. I don't know why why

37:18 why be offended now? I don't think it

37:20 was because it was a Easter post and

37:24 wiping out a civilization that was

37:25 up. I think all of America should

37:27 have been like bro what the wipe

37:30 out an entire civilization. Like this is

37:32 that's not even a war at that point.

37:34 That's just straight up

37:36 Yeah. genocide, war crimes. That's

37:40 psychopath behavior at like the 10th

37:43 degree. I don't know. They was all about

37:47 the y'all don't understand Trump. He's

37:49 playing like 3D chess right now. Y'all

37:51 don't understand. But that post was the

37:54 one that broke the camel's back. I don't

37:55 I don't damn. I don't know what is going

37:58 on behind the scenes or why people I I

38:00 think it's because of the war. I want to

38:02 believe that and like breaking a lot of

38:06 promises, his campaign promises and

38:08 people are starting to wake up and see

38:10 like, bro, this is this is

38:11 stupid. I want to believe that. I Yeah,

38:14 I really do.

38:18 >> No, I mean I I say it all the time. The

38:20 first law of the land is

38:21 self-preservation.

38:22 There there's no way on the planet you

38:25 can make me believe that what what all

38:26 that this guy uh has done

38:30 certifiably he's done there is no

38:33 dispute

38:34 >> that it was a post that made them take

38:38 this moral shift and say we denounce

38:42 you. No way.

38:44 >> What do you think it is?

38:47 >> Access um broken promises.

38:51 uh him not going on some of their

38:54 platforms.

38:55 >> Oh, that butt hurt. So, it's a butt hurt

38:57 thing.

38:59 >> I mean, it's just my thought, but but I

39:01 do believe it's something that affects

39:03 each one of them purposely.

39:05 >> I mean, personally,

39:06 >> they they they

39:09 >> and it could be something as simple as

39:11 access. He, you know, maybe he's

39:12 distances himself from them. Maybe they

39:14 can't get him on the phone. He changed

39:16 his phone number. They don't have his

39:18 direct line anymore. M um maybe they

39:21 maybe they don't have a direct line to

39:22 that inside trading no more

39:24 >> like

39:25 >> you know he he's not tipping them off

39:29 >> you know

39:31 12 hours in advance that this is about

39:33 to come. So

39:33 >> yeah. Yeah.

39:35 >> There's just

39:37 >> look.

39:38 >> So that means the love

39:40 >> the love for him was was never real to

39:42 begin with then.

39:43 >> And they pushed a bunch of people to you

39:45 know vote and put this guy in office and

39:48 the love wasn't real. Was just to have

39:49 access to get views on and and insider

39:52 information about things that about to

39:54 happen. That's up.

39:58 The soul don't cost that much. God.

40:00 Yeah, bro. People say

40:02 >> I mean that's not hard to believe

40:03 though, Nick.

40:04 >> Yeah, you're right.

40:04 >> That's not like Come on, man.

40:06 >> Yeah, you're right.

40:07 >> What you just said, that's not hard to

40:09 believe.

40:11 >> I mean, that that's politics as usual.

40:13 Let's just keep it real.

40:14 >> Yeah.

40:15 >> I wash your hands, you wash mine.

40:17 >> Yeah. Yeah.

40:19 >> This this this is an exchange.

40:21 >> Mhm.

40:22 >> You know, I'm not doing this for free.

40:25 >> You you know my audience. Mhm.

40:28 >> You you you know I have influence.

40:30 >> Mhm.

40:31 >> Take care of me and I'm going to make

40:34 sure my people on election day take care

40:38 of you.

40:38 >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

40:40 >> But but here's the deal. It's too little

40:43 too late.

40:44 >> Yeah.

40:45 >> Let's just say they all woke up one

40:47 morning and

40:50 you know truly did have a revelation.

40:53 Mhm.

40:53 >> They God came to each one of them in

40:56 their dream and said, "Look, you know, I

40:58 I I want you to say 50 Hail Marys and

41:03 then go and and renounce

41:06 >> Uh-huh.

41:06 >> this false god because I am the true

41:08 God."

41:09 >> Yeah. Yeah.

41:10 >> Let's just say that did happen.

41:14 The horse done left the barn.

41:15 >> Facts.

41:16 >> It it it's the the the it's done.

41:19 >> Yep. We still It's not like this man can

41:22 can run for president again.

41:24 >> Yeah, we still got what? Three more

41:25 years. A

41:26 >> little too late.

41:26 >> We got three more years, right?

41:29 >> Two and a half.

41:30 >> Two and a half.

41:31 >> Time is moving slow as

41:33 >> Yeah, Tom is moving slow. I mean, it is

41:36 it is a lot a lot has been going on

41:39 within them past two and a half years.

41:41 It feels like it feels like four to me.

41:44 I'm like, damn.

41:45 >> No, it's been one and a half years. He

41:47 has two and a half years left. I got

41:49 you. God. Yeah. It feels like four to

41:51 me. It feels like reproaching four.

41:54 Yeah. It's a lot that's been going on

41:56 the past since he got elected,

41:58 reelected. A lot has been going on. And

42:01 I think, yeah, the average person who

42:03 voted for him is still waiting for, you

42:06 know, that Trump check to hit, them

42:08 tariff checks to hit.

42:12 Ain't nobody getting paid.

42:14 But, you know, again, self-preservation,

42:19 and Trump does understand,

42:22 I mean, this guy sits on a freaking

42:24 platinum toilet.

42:25 >> Mhm.

42:26 >> Uh, he has never known a day of poverty.

42:29 He does not know what it is to cringe

42:32 >> when the average gas price goes above

42:35 $4. He does not know what it looks like

42:39 to be sick to your stomach when you go

42:42 to the grocery store and you get three,

42:45 four items and your bill is over $100.

42:49 >> He has no idea.

42:51 >> Y

42:52 >> what it looks like

42:54 >> to your entire life, your entire life

42:58 you've been able to be self-sufficient.

43:01 You've been able to be a man or a woman

43:04 and take care of your family. And now

43:06 you legitimately have to contemplate

43:09 getting government assistance.

43:11 >> And you and you're not even embarrassed

43:13 about it's just where I'm at.

43:16 >> He has no idea.

43:18 No idea what that feels like.

43:22 >> The people who vote for him do.

43:24 >> Exactly. But he tells them But he tells

43:26 them you I mean during during co hey I

43:31 got a nice check for y'all. And soon as

43:33 them check hit, people were like, "I

43:36 love Trump."

43:37 >> Yep. Yep. Yep.

43:38 >> And now he's promising another check.

43:41 And trust me, if those checks cash,

43:43 we're going to see the people who were

43:46 starving saying, "This guy is for us."

43:49 >> Yeah. Yeah. 100% 100%. Candace Owens

43:52 might be back on board. Megan Kelly

43:54 might be back on board. And them checks

43:56 start hitting them Trump checks. Yeah.

44:00 >> Ah, it's it's crazy. I mean, we touched

44:02 on

44:05 Trump verse the Pope a little bit

44:06 earlier in the conversation.

44:11 >> My brother,

44:13 is there nothing sacred?

44:15 You I mean,

44:19 people have used words like unhinged.

44:23 Um, last week I told you even even

44:25 myself when

44:27 >> I question this man's sanity

44:29 >> at this point. Mhm.

44:30 >> Um,

44:32 >> but that power is a real drug, my

44:35 brother.

44:35 >> Mhm. Yeah.

44:36 >> You know, unlimited, unchecked power is

44:39 a real drug.

44:44 Has he just crossed the line in your

44:46 opinion? Now I'm fighting with the Pope.

44:50 This This is the holy pontiff.

44:52 This is the holiest man on earth.

44:57 I think he definitely rubbed a

45:01 a certain demog a very large demographic

45:04 the wrong way.

45:06 But like you said, there's nothing

45:07 really sacred with him. You know, I I

45:11 I don't even know where it all came

45:13 from. Like why he decided to even attack

45:15 go after the pope the way he did. Wasn't

45:18 it something like with JD Vance or

45:20 something like that? Or I don't even I

45:21 don't even know. I saw at the post and I

45:24 saw what he said and I was like damn

45:26 this is like during the you know I'm

45:29 keeping up with the war and and

45:30 then I see he attacked all the you know

45:33 Candace and them and the pope

45:37 nothing sacred nothing sacred with them

45:39 I think every everything is everybody

45:42 can get his Trump hands everybody can

45:44 get them hands that's how Trump sees it

45:47 ain't a ain't no way about it I don't

45:51 care if you a

45:53 the Pope, Megan Kelly. Yeah. Everybody

45:56 can get Trump's hands and that's how he

45:58 feels. And he has no no issue throwing

46:00 them. He going to throw him in Iran.

46:02 Well, he not everybody. Israel ain't

46:05 never going to get him. But yeah, I

46:07 think he's just um

46:10 unhinged.

46:11 That's not the right word I'm looking

46:13 for. I just think he don't give a

46:16 I just think he honestly doesn't care.

46:18 He doesn't care if he pisses off this

46:20 certain people or demographic. He's

46:22 like, I'm not going to get reelected. I

46:24 can't get reelected. I'm already here.

46:26 Nothing you can do about it. We know

46:27 impeachment's not going to work. I can

46:29 do whatever I want to do. The Christians

46:31 don't vote for me. Oh well. I mean, we

46:33 look at this that lady uh his spiritual

46:37 or religious advisor, whatever the

46:40 she is, that preaching lady. I mean,

46:42 look at her. We That's a fraud. So

46:47 I don't even think he believes in the

46:48 anyways. Like the pope to him is

46:50 nobody. Just a dude with power. That's

46:53 it. I don't think he sees the pope as

46:55 anything like the way the Catholics see

46:58 the pope. I don't see the pope like

47:01 anything either. I know he's the pope,

47:04 you know, but

47:06 I might be a pope one day.

47:10 >> I'm I'mma tell you something. I I see

47:12 two things going on with this guy. Uh

47:16 have you ever seen

47:19 old people, you know, like old ladies,

47:24 old men,

47:26 once you get past a certain age, you

47:29 don't give a f. Like you you speak your

47:31 mind.

47:33 >> Like I've seen old women in the hood

47:36 >> walk through crowds of the hardest dude

47:39 like

47:39 >> Yeah. Yeah.

47:40 >> And and they they they don't care.

47:42 >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

47:44 >> They they legitimately will walk down

47:46 the block and where everybody else

47:49 across the street, they're like, "Nah,

47:52 like I'm too old. I done seen it all."

47:55 >> Mhm. Mhm.

47:56 >> I think number one,

47:58 Trump is what, 79? His birthday is in

48:01 June. He's going to be 80 years old.

48:03 >> Yeah, that's right.

48:04 >> Like, this is a 80year-old senior

48:06 citizen.

48:06 >> Mhm.

48:09 take him out of office.

48:11 >> Hey, we were doing Hey, they they wanted

48:12 the same thing with Biden, too.

48:14 >> Biden was absolutely in his 80s.

48:17 >> He was in his 80s.

48:18 >> Yeah.

48:19 >> I think he left the office and he was

48:20 like 80 81 years old.

48:22 >> Okay.

48:23 >> Trump is just a a plain old senior

48:25 citizen. He does not care.

48:28 >> Mhm.

48:28 >> He ain't watching his mouth. Like I done

48:31 been here too long.

48:32 >> Yeah.

48:33 >> That's number one. So, he has that that

48:35 mentality. And then it's just unchecked

48:38 power.

48:39 >> Let's keep it real. Before Trump got

48:41 into office, he said,

48:44 >> and I quote,

48:45 >> I can shoot somebody in the head on

48:48 Fifth Avenue.

48:48 >> Mhm.

48:50 >> And my people are still going to stand

48:52 with me. I won't get convicted.

48:54 >> Yeah. Yeah.

48:54 >> And it has I mean, short of him actually

48:57 doing that, he's been a teflon dawn.

49:00 >> Facts.

49:01 >> So, no, it to your point, anybody can

49:04 get Trump hands.

49:05 >> Yeah. Yeah. And he don't care. He didn't

49:08 care. At at that age, I'm pretty sure

49:10 I'll be the same way, too. Like, at that

49:12 age, you're like, "Bro, I'm on the way

49:14 out. I don't have there's not many more

49:16 long days ahead. I'm on the way out.

49:18 it. everybody." You know? I

49:22 don't I don't care. You 80 something

49:24 years old. You got what I mean, if he

49:27 lucky,

49:29 10 maybe 10 years. But when you hit 90,

49:32 I mean, what is life at that age though?

49:34 What is He's not going to be out here

49:37 doing push-ups, jumping jacks, playing

49:39 with his grandchildren or whatever.

49:41 Maybe he will be. I don't know. I don't

49:44 know. I don't know how much of that

49:46 child blood he was drinking on Epstein's

49:48 Island. I don't know. He might have got

49:50 a little sip, a little more little more

49:52 pep in his step. I don't know. But 80 is

49:55 at the at the age of 80, it's like,

49:57 "Yeah, you don't give a anymore.

49:58 You don't care." And that's where we're

50:00 Yeah, that's where we're at. But hey, we

50:02 keep voting in these people who are

50:04 going to be that age anyways. And like

50:07 who's next up on the list? You told me

50:08 last time it was like Kamla.

50:11 We haven't seen that.

50:13 >> She did an interview this past week and

50:15 uh I forget who she did the interview

50:17 with, but they asked, matter of fact, it

50:18 was uh with Reverend Al Sharpton at at

50:21 his summit.

50:22 >> Come on.

50:23 >> The National Action Network Summit. And

50:25 he asked her, he was like, "Yo, you

50:27 know, are you going to be on the

50:28 ticket?" And she was like, "I'm thinking

50:31 about it." Which is cold for hell yeah.

50:33 >> I think not. I think she should go back

50:35 to hiding. Go back to being the ghost

50:38 that she was. We don't need none of

50:39 that. Oh no. I admit she ain't going to

50:41 win. No way. It's not looking good. It's

50:44 not looking good. But hey, we keep

50:45 voting in old people. So, and she's not

50:47 old enough. So, yeah, she ain't going to

50:49 make it.

50:51 >> No, she she's not old enough. She's the

50:54 wrong skin color and she's a woman. And

50:57 I just don't know that this country is

50:59 ready for a woman commander-in-chief.

51:03 >> Possibly after Trump, they'll just take

51:05 anything. Maybe I should run.

51:07 >> Who? You.

51:08 >> I Yeah. Like possibly after Trump.

51:12 >> I I don't know. Americans, they they

51:14 might just be willing to take anything.

51:15 >> Hey, Stephen A. Smith. I Yeah, they

51:18 might go after him.

51:19 >> Yeah. Like truth be told.

51:21 >> I hope not. You

51:23 >> You know

51:25 it.

51:28 Trump has so many of his day one

51:30 supporters

51:32 going after him. He's now

51:35 >> messed with with the holy pontiff.

51:39 >> There are 53 million

51:43 >> uh

51:44 >> Catholic Americans

51:46 >> in this country.

51:47 >> 53 million

51:50 >> that is a huge voting block.

51:52 >> Big time.

51:53 >> Huge.

51:56 empires. You know, the Democrats,

52:00 they've tried and they failed.

52:04 Trump became president.

52:07 He had to sit down

52:09 for four years and he became president

52:12 again.

52:13 >> I got no faith in the Democrats

52:15 whatsoever.

52:16 >> But

52:19 all empires

52:21 typically

52:23 they fall from within.

52:24 >> Yep. Yep.

52:25 >> They they they literally crumble from

52:28 within.

52:28 >> Y

52:28 >> So are we seeing the makings of this

52:31 empire crumbling not by outside forces

52:37 but from within?

52:38 >> America the empire or Republican.

52:42 >> Trump's empire. Trump's empire.

52:44 >> America empire.

52:45 >> The Republican empire.

52:47 >> 100%. Yeah. with the Epstein stuff going

52:50 on. You know, that alone, I think if we

52:54 ever get a chance to see that, which I

52:55 pray I hope we do, if we ever get a

52:57 chance to see what's really in them

52:58 documents, it's going to definitely come

53:01 down in. You got no choice. You can't

53:02 stick by it. If it is what we think it

53:05 all is, you can't you can't afford to

53:07 stick by it. But then you start going

53:09 after the Catholic people, you know,

53:11 Christians and all this and that. I

53:14 mean, it's

53:16 Yeah. self-sabotage at this point. Like,

53:19 and that was a a large, you know,

53:22 demographic of his voting base. A lot of

53:24 his voters were Christian or Catholic.

53:28 I mean, to to to go after them, that's

53:30 how you definitely destroy an empire.

53:34 If I wanted to destroy my own empire,

53:36 hell yeah. That's how I would do it.

53:37 >> Just piss off everybody who who voted

53:39 for me and let them know I I don't care

53:42 about y'all. I don't even mess with this

53:44 Thanks for the vote though.

53:48 If you want to sab Yeah. sabotage your

53:51 own empire, that's how you do it.

53:53 >> It's definitely going to be from within.

53:57 >> Yeah. I mean, that's typically how all

54:00 empires crumble.

54:02 >> And um he's doing a damn good job right

54:04 now.

54:04 >> Right. Right.

54:06 >> Yeah. Like it's only a matter of time. I

54:09 mean before Donald Jr., Eric

54:14 when Vodka comes out like, "Yo, we've

54:18 had enough."

54:19 >> Oh. Oh, that would eat him. That would

54:22 eat him. No, they they won't because

54:24 he's not going to go after or say

54:26 anything bad about the Jewish community.

54:29 That ain't going to happen.

54:31 That ain't going to happen.

54:32 >> Nah. The one line that I've And here

54:34 here's another thing I'll give him.

54:36 Truth be told,

54:39 can't stand. I mean, no. Let me rephrase

54:42 it. He seems to have no love for anybody

54:47 or anything except for his children.

54:51 >> They're the only ones that have ever

54:53 seemed to be off limits.

54:56 >> So, I I I don't think you'll ever see

55:00 Donald Jr. or or Ivank or or Eric or

55:04 >> I forget the other daughter's name, Lil

55:07 Baron. I I they they they're never going

55:09 to be in a line of fire. No, no.

55:13 >> Um, I want to talk about this blockade.

55:18 >> You know, the the

55:23 the last time you and I sat down, there

55:26 was a twoe ceasefire

55:28 which lasted all of a couple of hours.

55:31 >> Mhm. Yep.

55:33 >> Iran says, "You know what?

55:37 We might not be able to beat you on the

55:40 battlefield,

55:41 but what we do know well is terrorism.

55:47 And now we're going to play economic

55:50 terrorism

55:51 >> with the straight.

55:52 >> Mhm.

55:52 >> So this straight is getting closed.

55:55 >> Yeah. And

55:58 for a couple of days it sounded like

56:00 that was a good idea.

56:03 But then Trump turns around and does

56:05 something you know that I think was

56:08 genius personally.

56:10 >> Um you know they cuz they closed the

56:13 straight

56:14 >> to everything except Iranian ships.

56:17 >> So Iranian ships the straight was closed

56:19 but Iranian ships was getting in and out

56:22 of there no problem. So they were still

56:23 making their paper.

56:25 >> Yeah.

56:26 Trump is like, "Okay,

56:29 y'all want to play economic terrorism?

56:31 Well, I'mma one up you. I'm putting a

56:34 blockade on everything." So now your

56:37 ships

56:38 >> don't even get in and out of this like

56:40 like y'all want to play this game. I'm

56:43 the master of playing games.

56:44 >> Mhm.

56:45 >> So now the entire straight is shut down.

56:49 He's got something like 18 warships

56:53 already in the Middle East.

56:55 um 15 naval ships are right there

56:58 guarding the straight

57:02 and he's like, "Yo,

57:04 until y'all

57:06 come to the table with a deal that makes

57:10 sense, this straight stays closed, do

57:13 you think that this was a good play on

57:15 his part or just more posturing?"

57:18 >> I think it's more posture. I mean,

57:21 we we we allegedly supposedly didn't

57:24 even care about the strait. It wasn't

57:26 even about the strait to begin with. It

57:28 was supposed to be about Iran's nuclear

57:31 production capabilities,

57:33 uranium. Then the focus did shift to the

57:37 straight and it's we want it open. Let's

57:42 close it. Let's put it open. Now, if

57:44 that news today was true and they, you

57:47 know, had this deal with China, I think

57:49 Trump posted about something on his

57:51 social, true social about

57:54 how when he sees the president of China,

57:56 he's going to give him a the Chinese

57:58 president's going to give him a big fat

57:59 hug and some weird pause type all

58:04 because of this straight is now open. I

58:06 think it's just posturing. I think it's

58:07 posturing. I don't think it I see where

58:10 you're coming from like a a economic

58:13 play like let's shut the whole thing

58:14 down then. But I mean who owns the

58:18 street, you know? I mean economically

58:21 globally I don't think it b it benefits

58:24 really anybody. China's going I mean 20%

58:27 of the oil that moves through there.

58:30 Yeah. It's like 20% of the world's oil

58:31 moves through there. It's not really

58:33 helping anybody out. China's damn sure

58:36 ain't helping China out. If you want to

58:37 get it, China, yeah, keep it closed. But

58:41 like I said, I think that according to

58:43 the news today, he reopened it. I think

58:46 it's just posturing or it's just stock

58:48 manipulation. That's it. I don't think

58:51 we really have a game plan at this

58:53 point. The war was supposed to last

58:54 what, two to four weeks, then another

58:57 two to four weeks, then was four to six

58:59 weeks. We're at week what now?

59:02 >> This is um what is this? The eighth

59:05 week, the seventh week.

59:06 >> Yeah. with no endings. I mean, what do

59:08 we have like another four weeks? This is

59:10 turning into the whole COVID thing. This

59:12 is turning into 2020 all over again. And

59:14 let's not forget.

59:16 >> He said, I mean, not that you could

59:17 believe too much that comes out his

59:19 mouth, but he did an interview and he

59:20 said there should be some exciting news

59:22 coming out um in the next two days. This

59:25 war could be over in the in the coming

59:27 week. So,

59:28 >> now that's a lot of could and I've

59:29 already heard this story before. The war

59:31 was over months ago, weeks ago. The war

59:34 was already over. We already won.

59:36 Everything's completely obliterated.

59:39 I don't know. I mean, I think that, hey,

59:42 if you if you want to confuse your

59:44 enemy, be confused yourself. I don't

59:47 think we know what the going on.

59:49 I don't think there really is a exit

59:51 strategy. And if there is, what? We tuck

59:53 tail and run. We just say, "All right,

59:55 guys, we're packed up. We did everything

59:57 we had to do. Let's go. You mean to tell

59:59 me that terrorist regime is completely

1:00:02 wiped out?

1:00:03 You mean to tell me that the that the

1:00:05 the new regime won't seek anything any

1:00:07 further?

1:00:08 That easy?

1:00:10 You didn't There's no regime change. You

1:00:13 just pissed off more people.

1:00:16 Let the American people know who you

1:00:17 talking to. Let us see who we're you

1:00:19 know you negotiating with. What are the

1:00:22 new What's the new Iran going to look

1:00:24 like? We won't got to come back in like

1:00:26 four years, 10 years from now.

1:00:30 I don't know. I think it's a

1:00:33 I'm praying, hey, two weeks we're out of

1:00:35 here or he's got some exciting news and

1:00:38 not just another stock pump. I really

1:00:41 hope it is some exciting good news. And

1:00:43 I mean, we just did like the

1:00:44 negotiations and they completely failed

1:00:46 with JD Vans.

1:00:50 I don't know. Two more weeks. I would

1:00:52 love to see it love to see us get out in

1:00:54 two weeks.

1:00:56 I would like to see it sooner than that,

1:00:57 but

1:01:00 geopolitically it's going to look pretty

1:01:02 u can look embarrassing to the countries

1:01:05 who allegedly hate us. Like, yo, you

1:01:07 y'all can't even fight a war, right?

1:01:10 What was accomplished?

1:01:15 You know, I I want to I want to touch on

1:01:17 something because you keep touching on a

1:01:18 point that I don't want to go beyond

1:01:20 myself or the audience because I think

1:01:22 it's it's a very relevant point.

1:01:28 This supposedly was never about the

1:01:30 straight and it's so it's so interesting

1:01:33 how

1:01:35 you know the the the

1:01:38 narrative has shifted so quickly.

1:01:42 >> You know the straight

1:01:45 was open before the war started.

1:01:48 >> There was no mention of this straight.

1:01:52 >> Most people had never even heard of the

1:01:55 straight of Hamuz,

1:01:56 >> right?

1:01:57 >> That was not something that

1:02:01 was even discussed. It wasn't a factor

1:02:04 in the beginning. Mhm.

1:02:08 >> We get into this war, they shut down the

1:02:11 straight

1:02:14 and even if what you're saying is right,

1:02:18 meaning prior to us doing this interview

1:02:22 today,

1:02:24 Trump reopens his straight. It's like

1:02:27 you're claiming victory over something

1:02:29 that was the status quo

1:02:32 from day one, if not like the straight

1:02:34 was closed day one. And we went in there

1:02:37 to it was always open.

1:02:39 >> Yep. Yep.

1:02:40 >> You effed it up and got it closed.

1:02:42 >> Yep.

1:02:43 >> So now you're happy that the straight

1:02:45 like is this really a win? Like come on.

1:02:49 Like it it's just crazy to me that we're

1:02:53 we're we're being bambooed

1:02:56 >> and hoodwinkedked.

1:02:57 >> Yep. And people are actually gonna be

1:03:02 waving the Trump flag like he got the

1:03:04 straight. No, the straight was always

1:03:07 open.

1:03:07 >> Yep. Yep.

1:03:08 >> He he effed up and got it shut down.

1:03:11 >> That might be his back.

1:03:12 >> Now I should be happy that it's open

1:03:13 again,

1:03:14 >> right? That might be his fallback plan

1:03:16 like to get us out the war. It's like,

1:03:18 hey,

1:03:20 straight's open again. We won because

1:03:22 our Americans attention spans are so

1:03:24 short. We can't two week news cycles. We

1:03:28 live on reels. You know, I think that

1:03:30 the most of Yeah, a lot of the American

1:03:32 people might be like that that he could

1:03:34 use that as like the ex exit strategy

1:03:36 and say, "Look guys, we did it. War is

1:03:39 over. We don't have to mess with this.

1:03:40 The the straights open. We did it. Let's

1:03:43 pack up. We won. Mission accomplished.

1:03:45 George Bush style." Yeah.

1:03:50 Uh

1:03:51 >> yo, Nick, do you hear yourself? This is

1:03:53 freaking hilarious. The war's over. The

1:03:57 straights open.

1:03:58 >> Yep. We did it.

1:03:58 >> Something that was open from day one.

1:04:01 >> But a lot of people a lot of people are

1:04:03 going to overlook that. A lot of people

1:04:05 are going to overlook that

1:04:07 >> and completely forget because you got we

1:04:09 completely obliterated that that nuclear

1:04:11 program last year. What was it last

1:04:14 year? Earlier this year when we had

1:04:17 dropped

1:04:18 >> Absolutely.

1:04:19 >> Yeah. We dropped we did that little Tom

1:04:21 Cruz top secret mission flew in there

1:04:23 dropped some bombs and the side of a

1:04:25 mountain was like boom nuclear program

1:04:28 is good we're done but we had to go back

1:04:31 to do this whole nuclear thing and now

1:04:34 the whole thing turned into the straight

1:04:35 of Hormuz. So I think most of Americans

1:04:38 a lot of people are going to forget the

1:04:40 initial reason why we went in and this

1:04:42 whole thing looks like it's about the

1:04:44 straight and oil and the prices of

1:04:46 things going up.

1:04:48 It was already open before, but I think

1:04:52 we might use that as like our little

1:04:53 play to get out. Our mission

1:04:56 accomplished. We job well done troops.

1:04:58 We got the world's most powerful navy.

1:05:00 We completely took out their navy. We

1:05:02 did it. They can't block the straight.

1:05:04 Whatever. It's open. We won. It could be

1:05:08 that. It' be a hell of an exit strategy.

1:05:11 It'd be funny, but yeah, it could be.

1:05:14 Could be that. Well, I hope not. Watch

1:05:17 that Be it though. Watch it. Why

1:05:18 should it be like, "Hey, we set him so

1:05:20 far back in the straights open. We won.

1:05:24 Mission accomplished.

1:05:26 We about to have more money, more oil."

1:05:29 I don't know.

1:05:32 Nah, I mean, um,

1:05:35 this is

1:05:38 it's the most confusing.

1:05:40 I mean, it's it's a lot of people,

1:05:42 myself included, that don't agree with

1:05:45 this war

1:05:46 >> fact. Yeah. But it is beyond confusing.

1:05:50 >> Yeah.

1:05:50 >> Like it's one thing not to agree.

1:05:54 I don't even know the objectives

1:05:55 anymore.

1:05:56 >> Yeah. If we're all confused, the enemy's

1:05:58 got to be just as confused. Like, yo,

1:06:00 what the are we doing? What if what

1:06:02 are we doing? What what do we fight? We

1:06:05 We

1:06:07 know it's got to be They got to be just

1:06:11 as confused cuz I'm hella confused.

1:06:12 Like, what's the objective now at this

1:06:14 point?

1:06:16 They've already said America, we we've

1:06:17 said we've won so many times. The war

1:06:20 was over. They've claimed Iran's claimed

1:06:23 victory so many times, but now we got

1:06:26 the straight of our move and that's

1:06:27 whole that's a war in itself. Then the

1:06:30 island we was dropping bomb. We don't

1:06:32 know where to go or what to do. I'd be a

1:06:34 hella confused enemy. But I think it's

1:06:37 because we're hella confused, too. I

1:06:39 think the government's hella confused. I

1:06:41 think the people in charge of this whole

1:06:43 thing, initially it was supposed to be

1:06:45 this bombing campaign. We bombed the

1:06:47 out of them. We set their

1:06:49 facilities back X, Y, and Z. Then it

1:06:51 turned into I'm going to annihilate

1:06:53 everybody. Then it turned into, hey, I'm

1:06:56 about to close this straight. Matter of

1:06:57 fact, I'm going to open it and then

1:06:59 I'mma close it again. I The whole

1:07:01 thing's confusing. I think they're so

1:07:03 confused that it's confusing our enemy.

1:07:06 I think the whole world's confused.

1:07:08 Like, we don't know what the

1:07:09 going on. We got we we put our foot up

1:07:11 our own ass, shoved it up. Never mind.

1:07:15 That's a terrible analogy. Pause. I

1:07:17 think we just did somebody else's

1:07:19 bidding and got too involved with it and

1:07:21 we're just looking for an exit strategy

1:07:23 because the popularity of this whole

1:07:25 thing. It ain't there. I think we got

1:07:29 our hand up, you know, too far in the

1:07:31 damn cookie jar trying to help out

1:07:33 another country.

1:07:36 >> Nah. Nick, have you ever gotten into an

1:07:38 argument with somebody who's just so

1:07:40 irrational?

1:07:41 >> Yeah.

1:07:42 >> That somewhere in the middle of the

1:07:44 argument, you like, "Yo, what the I

1:07:46 don't even know what we arguing about no

1:07:47 more." Like, yo, you know what? You got

1:07:49 it. Like,

1:07:50 >> I got to get out of here cuz you just

1:07:52 plain crazy.

1:07:53 >> Yeah.

1:07:53 >> Like, why am I sitting spending my time

1:07:56 arguing with you

1:07:58 >> because you're just nuts.

1:08:00 >> Yeah. And and that's the way I feel like

1:08:03 the enemy must feel like what what are

1:08:05 we even doing here right now?

1:08:07 >> Exactly. That's what I think. That's

1:08:08 what I think. It's like is it over? Is

1:08:11 it not over? What are we fighting for

1:08:12 right now? We'll fight. I mean,

1:08:14 You punch me, I'mma punch you back. But

1:08:16 I mean, I just don't understand what the

1:08:18 going on.

1:08:20 I think they're just as confused, which

1:08:22 may be a good thing. Maybe that that was

1:08:24 the whole game plan was to go in there

1:08:26 and just confuse the out of

1:08:28 everybody. That way you don't know where

1:08:30 you might get you might get hit from. I

1:08:32 might hit you over here, over here. Hit

1:08:34 you with a Bruce Lee roundhouse kick.

1:08:36 Shoot. You don't know where I'm coming

1:08:38 from. Pause.

1:08:40 But I'm coming.

1:08:43 >> Yo, but you you want to know Iran is

1:08:47 I mean

1:08:50 you It's not like you could trust them

1:08:52 no more.

1:08:53 >> No.

1:08:54 >> Then you could trust our leadership

1:08:56 here. Like I read

1:08:59 is basically like, yo, we we can't open

1:09:02 the straits if we want

1:09:04 >> because we've put minds

1:09:08 >> in and around the straits and we don't

1:09:10 even know where we put them at now.

1:09:11 >> Come on. Come on. Everybody's

1:09:13 Everybody's confused. They're like,

1:09:15 "Hey, I I dropped some mines. I don't

1:09:18 know where the they at, though.

1:09:19 You'll find them. If they're there,

1:09:21 you'll find them."

1:09:23 Definitely. I don't Yeah. Everybody's

1:09:25 confused. This whole thing is like a big

1:09:27 cluster It's a soup sandwich. It's

1:09:30 a soup sandwich,

1:09:35 >> man. Like it's the craziest thing in the

1:09:38 world, man. But I mean, needless to say,

1:09:41 uh JD Vance,

1:09:44 >> vice president,

1:09:46 >> went to Pakistan.

1:09:49 >> He was leading the negotiations.

1:09:52 um comes back home empty-handed,

1:09:55 >> you know, and essentially he's like,

1:09:57 "Yo, Iran is sticking,

1:10:00 you know, to the point that they want

1:10:02 this nuclear program."

1:10:04 >> The US is essentially saying, "Yo, we

1:10:06 want you to stop enriching uranium for

1:10:09 at least 20 years." And they're also,

1:10:12 you know, as a US, we're going to put

1:10:14 other kinds of restrictions on you.

1:10:16 >> And Iran is like, screw you. Iran came

1:10:20 back, according to the New York Times

1:10:21 anyway, and they're like, "Yo, we we'll

1:10:23 agree to suspend

1:10:26 our uranium enrichment program for up to

1:10:29 not 5 years, but up to 5 years."

1:10:34 >> And

1:10:36 that seems to be the great divide right

1:10:39 there. Mhm.

1:10:42 >> They're like, "No, we are going to keep

1:10:45 going with this

1:10:47 uranium, enriching uranium and our

1:10:50 nuclear program."

1:10:51 >> Mhm.

1:10:55 So it brings me back to what you and I

1:10:57 always talk about

1:11:00 is Iran.

1:11:05 It's just just their way of saying screw

1:11:08 you. We will fight to the very end. We

1:11:12 are we're going to keep giving you

1:11:14 conditions that we know you will not

1:11:16 agree with because we've been down for

1:11:19 this fight and we've been prepared for

1:11:22 this fight long before you guys ever

1:11:24 even thought about fighting.

1:11:26 >> So, bring it on.

1:11:28 >> Yeah, 100%. That's what I think. I think

1:11:30 that they're going to keep hitting us

1:11:31 with I mean to be you got to go back to

1:11:34 when we were talking about how close we

1:11:35 were to a deal anyways. how it was

1:11:38 looking really good and this whole time

1:11:40 it's like these were the points.

1:11:42 We already knew that before we went to

1:11:43 Pakistan. But yeah, I think that Iran's

1:11:46 going to stick to their guns. You're

1:11:48 fighting a very resilient people

1:11:53 and if it is a terrorist regime, they're

1:11:56 not going to give up. They're going to

1:11:57 fight this thing down to the very last

1:12:00 Iranian ant. If that ant can pick up an

1:12:03 AK, they're gonna fight it out. It's

1:12:05 gonna go down that way. the everything

1:12:07 all the the points the bullet points and

1:12:09 things they're asking for they know

1:12:10 America is not going to be for it and if

1:12:12 they do if we do say okay well y'all can

1:12:15 do it up for up to 5 years then all that

1:12:17 means what we're going to come back in

1:12:18 another four or five years and do this

1:12:20 whole all over again

1:12:23 they know we're not going to do it and

1:12:24 if we do I mean

1:12:26 the master negotiator the best business

1:12:29 deal maker on the planet allegedly the

1:12:32 art of the deal couldn't get one they

1:12:35 should have sent that book over. I don't

1:12:36 know if JD read the book. He should have

1:12:38 read the book. We would have

1:12:39 been had to deal.

1:12:41 He didn't read it. But they Iran knows

1:12:45 Iran knows what they're doing. They

1:12:46 know.

1:12:50 Yeah. I mean, again, this is a very

1:12:53 confusing war we're in. Um,

1:12:57 you know, you touched on a point earlier

1:12:59 that I don't want to go

1:13:01 beyond this conversation because it was

1:13:03 very it's it's a very important point.

1:13:07 In 2015,

1:13:09 um, are you familiar? I I mean the

1:13:12 JCPOA,

1:13:13 the uh the joint comprehensive plan of

1:13:16 action, which is essentially the the

1:13:19 Iran nuclear deal that was struck

1:13:21 between Iran and the US, the UK, France,

1:13:26 China, Russia, and Germany.

1:13:28 >> Mhm.

1:13:28 >> That pretty much keeps

1:13:31 Iran from enriching uranium and getting

1:13:35 a nuclear bomb.

1:13:36 >> Mhm.

1:13:40 Trump gets in office and because and in

1:13:42 I said 2015 this deal was struck. Do you

1:13:46 know do do you know who the president

1:13:47 was in 2015?

1:13:49 >> Obama.

1:13:50 >> Exactly. So that deal wasn't good enough

1:13:53 just because it was struck under the

1:13:56 Obama administr administration.

1:13:58 >> Mhm.

1:13:59 So essentially,

1:14:01 he blows that deal up

1:14:04 >> and is now going to go in do whatever

1:14:07 the hell we're doing to be able to say,

1:14:09 "I actually

1:14:12 bought world peace

1:14:15 by making sure Iran doesn't have a

1:14:19 nuclear program, which hasn't been

1:14:23 confirmed that they even have

1:14:25 >> Exactly."

1:14:27 Exactly. Exactly.

1:14:29 But just because it was done under the

1:14:31 Obama administration,

1:14:34 he has to rip it up and go in and do and

1:14:38 and put us in a war that it's like, what

1:14:40 the f are we even doing here? That's a

1:14:43 different level of spite. That's a

1:14:45 different level of spite.

1:14:47 You don't like I mean,

1:14:50 you're Yeah, you're 100% right. I think

1:14:52 that

1:14:54 none of us, the average American person,

1:14:56 people, we don't we don't know without a

1:14:59 shadow of a doubt that they have nuclear

1:15:00 programs.

1:15:02 We have no idea what they have. This is

1:15:05 the same group of politicians, the same

1:15:07 government, the same system that told us

1:15:10 the about Iraq.

1:15:13 You don't know. You can't believe what

1:15:15 uh I'm so traumatized by when the

1:15:18 government like if the government ever

1:15:19 says, "Hey, there's a country over here

1:15:21 with weapons of mass destruction and

1:15:23 they want to kill Americans. They want

1:15:25 to, you know, wipe us off the face of

1:15:27 the earth." My brain automatically just

1:15:29 goes back to Iraq 2003 and the leadup to

1:15:33 that. And it wasn't there. They had

1:15:36 some chlorine and some other like

1:15:39 no weapons of mass destruction was

1:15:40 found. My brain automatically goes back

1:15:43 to that. We don't know what the

1:15:44 they have over there in Iran.

1:15:47 This whole thing could Yeah, I think it

1:15:49 definitely could have been avoided.

1:15:52 And they also know that this deal Iran's

1:15:54 proposing is not even going to one, you

1:15:56 can't trust them. You think because they

1:15:58 sign a deal that they're like, "Hey,

1:15:59 we're not going to ever we're not going

1:16:00 to touch a nuclear weapon again. Our,

1:16:02 you know, try to enrich uranium if

1:16:04 that's what they're doing." Of course

1:16:06 they would. Why wouldn't they,

1:16:12 >> you know?

1:16:14 I mean on paper who knows what's you

1:16:17 know in reality but on paper there are

1:16:21 nine nuclear armed countries.

1:16:23 >> Mhm.

1:16:25 >> Russia holds the largest stockpile. New

1:16:27 York um the United States comes in

1:16:30 second.

1:16:31 >> Uh China they're they're actively

1:16:35 expanding their arsenal. France they

1:16:37 have a small arsenal but they have them.

1:16:39 Mhm.

1:16:40 >> The UK.

1:16:41 >> Mhm.

1:16:41 >> They have another small arsenal.

1:16:43 Pakistan.

1:16:44 >> Mhm.

1:16:45 >> They have a growing stockpile in India.

1:16:48 >> Yep.

1:16:49 >> Nowhere on that list is Iran.

1:16:52 Nowhere on that list.

1:16:53 >> Or Israel

1:16:55 >> or Israel for that matter.

1:16:58 >> I I think we could probably,

1:17:01 you know, uh rest assure that Israel has

1:17:05 a little stockpile of

1:17:07 >> Yeah. Yeah. Of course.

1:17:10 But

1:17:12 there there are eight additional

1:17:14 confirmed countries

1:17:17 with with

1:17:18 nuclear arsenals.

1:17:20 >> Mhm.

1:17:25 Why is

1:17:28 if if we know that we legitimately have

1:17:34 the means to take them out and these

1:17:36 other countries have the mean to take

1:17:37 them out?

1:17:39 Why do we have this phantom

1:17:44 war going on that it's about this

1:17:46 nuclear arsenal when it's not even

1:17:48 confirmed that they have them? that they

1:17:51 have the means to create them.

1:17:52 >> Yeah, the means to create. That's the

1:17:54 thing. I mean, I don't think they have a

1:17:57 nuclear weapon. I think we were using

1:18:00 this whole

1:18:03 We were trying to say like, hey, we

1:18:05 don't want them to be able to get an

1:18:07 arsenal or make a missile or make a

1:18:09 bomb. So, that's why they're not on the

1:18:11 list. But, I mean, who's to say that

1:18:14 we're just trying to like get nuclear

1:18:16 energy,

1:18:17 you know, power plants and like

1:18:19 that? It might have not been to, you

1:18:22 know, use it for a bomb.

1:18:24 I don't know. And why? I don't I have no

1:18:27 idea why we're even why some countries

1:18:30 are allowed to have them and some

1:18:32 countries don't.

1:18:34 I don't know. Our greatest enemies,

1:18:38 Russia, China, they got them. You don't

1:18:42 see us going to go bomb them.

1:18:44 A lot of other nine other country nine

1:18:47 countries have them. But why why are we

1:18:49 allowed to have them? Why are those nine

1:18:50 allowed to have them? We're respon

1:18:52 they're responsible. I don't know. Only

1:18:55 one person has dropped them. One people

1:18:58 or used them. But yeah, I ran I don't

1:19:01 think that they have them. I don't even

1:19:04 know the whole like what they believe

1:19:05 about the whole enrichment of uranium.

1:19:09 The average person has no idea what the

1:19:10 uranium even looks like or what it

1:19:13 looks like when it get Yeah. No idea. We

1:19:16 just go by what these politicians say.

1:19:18 Oh, they're going after they that

1:19:19 they're they're trying to, you know,

1:19:21 make a nuclear weapon, make this, make

1:19:23 that. Nah,

1:19:25 I'm very skeptical of our government and

1:19:28 the propaganda they put out. You don't

1:19:30 know what to believe. You really can't

1:19:32 believe nothing. You can't.

1:19:35 Why trust them about that, but they

1:19:37 knowingly lie about everything else? Why

1:19:40 do we take them with Oh yeah, Iran is

1:19:42 trying to obtain a nuclear weapon

1:19:45 because our government said so. But you

1:19:47 trust them now? Now you trust them.

1:19:49 Okay, you just like war. What is it? Why

1:19:52 do you trust them now?

1:19:57 >> You know, I I guess the point I was

1:19:59 trying to make is

1:20:01 in simple terms, the enemy of my enemy

1:20:04 is my friend. Mhm.

1:20:05 >> And

1:20:07 if in fact Iran has either nuclear

1:20:11 weapons or the capabilities to make them

1:20:15 and they already support terrorism

1:20:17 around the world,

1:20:20 then

1:20:22 Russia, China, Pakistan, all of the

1:20:25 countries that are confirmed to have

1:20:27 these arms,

1:20:29 we can't let them get those weapons

1:20:31 either because they become very

1:20:34 dangerous.

1:20:36 to all of us.

1:20:37 >> Mhm.

1:20:38 >> So, if if this was a a real threat, I

1:20:42 would have to believe that it wouldn't

1:20:45 just stop at the US,

1:20:48 >> you know, that would be saying, "Oh, we

1:20:50 have to shut this program down." The the

1:20:53 UK is is our ally.

1:20:56 >> Yeah. Yep.

1:20:58 >> Somehow some and and they have a nuclear

1:21:01 arsenal.

1:21:02 >> Mhm. But somehow someway they're backing

1:21:05 off this war. They're not even

1:21:07 supporting us.

1:21:08 >> Yep.

1:21:09 >> You know, so it's not even just our

1:21:10 enemies,

1:21:11 >> our allies like Trump. That's why Trump

1:21:13 was going after him. Trump was Yeah. He

1:21:15 was bad mouthing our allies, too.

1:21:18 >> Our allies who have put boots on the

1:21:20 ground with our boots on the ground. He

1:21:23 was bad mouthing them, too. I don't know

1:21:25 what allies we going to have after this

1:21:27 presidency. He hates it.

1:21:29 Everybody, like I said, Trump's throwing

1:21:31 hands with everybody. So, I don't know

1:21:33 who's going to be our ally after this,

1:21:35 but you're right. Even our own allies,

1:21:38 they want no part of this war.

1:21:42 >> No, they don't. Um, and and I don't

1:21:45 believe that they have bought into the

1:21:46 propaganda. Exactly. That's, you know,

1:21:48 what I what I really think it comes down

1:21:50 to because if if that was really the

1:21:52 case,

1:21:54 >> they'd all be in

1:21:55 >> Exactly. Because they'd be they'd be in

1:21:57 danger, too, if that were the case.

1:21:58 They'd be in danger, too. Correct. Yep.

1:22:00 Yep. Yep.

1:22:02 Yeah, like like we can't let like these

1:22:04 guys are reckless. They they support

1:22:06 terrorist groups. So, we know if they

1:22:09 get their hand on a nuclear arsenal,

1:22:12 >> it could be death and destruction,

1:22:15 >> you know, not just to the US, but to to

1:22:17 the entire world. Like, we don't know

1:22:19 where they going to flip the script and

1:22:21 and go rogue.

1:22:22 >> Yep.

1:22:22 >> So, we got to shut this down. So it it

1:22:26 got to raise some eyebrows when you see

1:22:28 our allies as well as our enemies that

1:22:31 actually have a nuclear stockpile

1:22:35 that are like good luck. You're on your

1:22:37 own, USA.

1:22:38 >> Yeah.

1:22:39 >> Just get that straight open.

1:22:41 >> Right. Right. Cuz it wasn't about

1:22:44 nuclear. It was about nuclear nothing.

1:22:46 It had nothing to do about that.

1:22:49 >> Correct. Correct. All right. Before I

1:22:52 let you out of here, my brother, what's

1:22:54 your prediction in the next seven days?

1:22:56 >> Next seven days, we going to be right

1:22:58 back where we started.

1:23:00 Next seven next seven days, I think that

1:23:05 some shit's going to happen on the Harmu

1:23:06 straight. Trump's going to make a

1:23:11 vague post

1:23:13 about, oh, some great news is coming up.

1:23:15 And then we get the news and it turns

1:23:17 out not to be so great. And we're gonna

1:23:20 be there for a few more weeks, maybe

1:23:22 months. Hope I'm wrong, but we're gonna

1:23:25 get a lot of the next seven days. What

1:23:26 we're gonna get is a lot of A

1:23:29 lot of and a lot of

1:23:30 backtracking and a lot of stuff being

1:23:33 said that wasn't wasn't true. That's

1:23:35 what I think. I'm just going off of

1:23:37 pattern recognition. This whole entire

1:23:39 thing has just been nothing but that.

1:23:41 So, I think we going to continue that

1:23:43 that same pattern.

1:23:46 >> Boots on the ground or no? Not right

1:23:49 now. Not right now. I don't know. Not

1:23:51 right now. I don't think so. I I ran

1:23:54 would have to do something so out of

1:23:57 pocket to force that hand. I don't think

1:23:59 so right now. I hope I hope not. I hope

1:24:03 I'm I'm Yeah, I don't think so right

1:24:05 now. Not within the next seven days.

1:24:08 That would that would only extend that

1:24:10 would only extend the war by months if

1:24:12 not a year plus.

1:24:15 And if he Yeah. Yeah, if you want to get

1:24:18 out of this war and this conflict, you

1:24:20 don't put boots on the ground.

1:24:23 We're looking for a way out. I think our

1:24:25 way out's going to be, "Hey, straight's

1:24:26 open, y'all. We did it."

1:24:30 >> Yeah. The straight was open all along.

1:24:32 We went in there and the straight was

1:24:34 open.

1:24:34 >> Yep.

1:24:35 >> That's our win.

1:24:36 >> Yep.

1:24:37 >> Unbelievable.

1:24:41 >> Unfreaking believable.

1:24:42 >> Y'all see how I got those gas prices

1:24:44 back down? I did that.

1:24:47 Yeah. To where they were before the war.

1:24:48 >> Yeah. Hey, we ain't worried about that,

1:24:50 though. Uhuh. Uh-uh. That don't count.

1:24:53 I'm talking about right now. I'm talking

1:24:55 about right now.

1:24:57 Them gas prices are high. I brought them

1:24:59 down. You're welcome. Mission

1:25:01 accomplished.

1:25:03 >> Well, if it helps, I do agree with you.

1:25:06 I I think we are looking for a way out.

1:25:10 I think we're looking for a way out

1:25:12 primarily, and I keep saying this week

1:25:14 over week. Uh,

1:25:17 this administration's approval rating is

1:25:20 at an all-time low and it will continue

1:25:22 to be.

1:25:23 >> Um, these midterms are coming up in

1:25:26 November. Do not think for one second

1:25:31 that this administration is not

1:25:34 reminding the president of that every

1:25:38 single day. Mhm.

1:25:39 >> They are saying, "How the hell do we get

1:25:42 out of this war and look like it was a

1:25:45 victory so that these ratings can go

1:25:49 back up before November because we stand

1:25:52 to lose it all?

1:25:54 >> There is is literally going to be the

1:25:57 blue wave

1:25:58 >> in November if we don't fix this."

1:26:03 >> All right, Nick, as always, I enjoy you.

1:26:06 Um, great insight, great perspective as

1:26:09 always. Can't wait to do this thing

1:26:11 again next week. I love you and I think

1:26:14 I speak for the people when we say we

1:26:17 cannot wait to hear your perspective

1:26:19 again.

1:26:20 >> Same here, brother. I appreciate it.

1:26:23 >> Thank you.

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