Bobby Jones. He suddenly wakes up out of
his coma, horny as a mother.
>> He knocks out 50 of them, never being
questioned. Talk about a successful
model.
>> Oh, he's not leaving any witnesses.
That's his MMO. He finally leaves a
witness, which would be his undoing.
>> Tampa, Florida, the home I love, the
city I love, where I grew up.
>> Bobby Jo.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to
the Murder Man. My name is Johnny
[ __ ] Mitchell and I got the
Cox Across the Way.
MANNY BOY. GOD, I'M EXCITED for this
one. Who are we talking about today,
folks? We're talking about Tampa's f a
hometown hero. A hometown hero. Not my
hometown. I come from, you know, place
where people don't act like savages.
>> We're talking about Bobby Joe Long.
We're talking about the Bobby Joe Long
murder spree that rocked Tampa, Florida
uh for years. For years. Talking about
50.
>> Yeah.
>> 50.
>> 50. The uh what was it? Is it That's
Craigslist. What What do they call him?
>> Classified ads.
>> Classified ad serial killer.
>> He's the classified ad killer.
classified ad.
>> No. No. No. No. The killings were
separate. They were They were
prostitutes.
>> Classified.
>> Yeah. Two different things. He literally
did 50 50 classified ad
>> before he started killing.
>> I know.
>> He said, "You know what?"
>> He wanted to perfect one thing.
>> Mastered this.
>> He didn't want to be a master of none.
>> No.
>> He said, "Okay, I've perfected this. Now
it's time to move on.
>> To take the serial killer market.
>> I'm trying to find I'm I'm I want to
step up to my next challenge. I want
another challenge." He said to himself.
>> Yeah. Bobby Joe.
That's what I when I think Bobby Joe
Long,
>> I feel like a lot of people,
>> I want to play the harmonica, dude. I
want to play the harmonica.
>> Tell us about Bobby Joe.
>> Bobby Joe Long is almost
a hermaphrodite. Okay. Bobby Joe Long
was born with estrogen.
>> Estrogen.
>> What's that?
>> We all have estrogen. You have estrogen.
I have tiny bit tiny bit. But I'm a
[ __ ] man though, bro. I went and got
my testosterone levels checked a couple
months ago and I was like, "God,
hopefully it gets reduced, right? It's
reduced." The doctor came out and was
like, "Oh, boy. Through the roof, dude.
My testosterone is [ __ ] She was like,
"Yo, she was an Asian woman. Oh, you're
a man."
>> No, she didn't. [laughter]
>> I swear to God. She goes, "Oh, yeah,
you're man. Manly man." I go, "Oh, boy."
I I was like and then I and I kind of
left $100 next to her and I kind of
spread my legs [laughter] and I said
this is this is what happens, right? God
[snorts]
was born in October 14th 53, 1953 in
West Virginia. But like any good
redneck, they migrated to the the
sunshine state, Florida.
>> Florida. Florida. Was it just him and
his or did did his his mom did they
divorce the husband and then come here
or so it was he got and grew up just
himself and his mother Loretta um moved
to Florida at a young age. Okay. He was
diagnosed with clandelter syndrome
clinfelter system which led to breast
development in childhood. This little
kid had [ __ ] tits. Can we pull up Can
we pull up a a photo of him? This kid
looked like a little girl. This kid
looked like an ugly little girl with
braces. Okay. And then even when he grew
up and grew out a mustache, he still
looked like a lesbian. He looked like a
butch 1980s PE teacher. Okay. So that
had to have given him a complex, right?
This kid, this kid had a rough go of it.
I'll say not is not Sam Little.
>> Wasn't a total tragedy his life, but it
was not ideal. I mean, being a boy with
bitched. Look at that. Look, he looks
Remember the movie It's Pat? Oh my god.
Please pull up It's Pat. He looks like
>> It's Pat from uh Saturday Night Live
>> or the movie that she was given a movie.
It's Pat. Really? Yeah. It's Pat. So
that's when I say Hermafhrodite. He
probably had a small like Hitler like
micro penis. You know what I mean? Yeah.
Look that. Look at that. It's Pat.
Before we knew what transgender was,
there was It's Pat and Bobby Joe had a
little bit of It's Pat in it.
>> Never. You could never do a movie like
that. They can't do skits about it.
They're so [ __ ] Oh my god. And it was
hilarious. You never knew.
>> What is it?
>> So, you never know if it was a girl or a
guy. You didn't know if Pat was a girl
or a guy because Pat so it's kind of
gender neutral and and and the the
people that worked with Pat were
constantly trying to figure out is Pat
[laughter]
a a man or a woman? So the whole thing
was that whatever she he would say
something and and you they'd be like
well Pat your parents that you know did
they how many
how many children did they have?
>> And they would almost figure it out.
almost and then
>> but he she wouldn't leave enough. They
them wouldn't leave enough clues.
>> They say they'd suddenly and they they
think, "Oh, okay." They'd be like,
"Okay, great." And then he'd say
something and and you wouldn't [ __ ]
know again. You like they like, "Fuck."
>> I feel like that's been put into the
dust bin of SNL history. But that truly
was one of the funniest character
pieces.
>> It was so funny. They ended up making a
movie.
>> They made a whole whole ass movie about
it, which was a hit.
>> Yeah.
>> So Bobby Joe Young,
>> I keep calling him Bobby Joe Young.
Bobby Joe Long, but he should be called
Bobby Joe Young.
>> Bobby Joe Long. It's almost it's always
triple named white guys that end up
doing hor horrific things.
>> Oh, we've cornered the market really.
We're not we're not the best. It's like
basketball, right? Like
>> you know the white guys think they have
it and then some black guy comes comes
in, Samuel Samuel Little comes in and
just blows it out of the water and
you're like, "Fuck, I thought this was
our thing."
>> You know, it was it was like it was like
you had Larry Bird, right? Like that was
the Bundy, that was the John Wayne Gayy,
that was the Green River Killer, right?
So Larry Bird, we were the best until
this guy Magic Johnson aka Samuel Little
comes along and really like adds a whole
new level of style and pizzazz to serial
killing, right? The black guys will give
them a chance and they will excel.
They've they've proven that, you know.
>> So Bobby Joe Young
>> Bobby Joe Young had what's called
gyoclamastia.
>> He had too much estrogen had tits and he
looked like a chick,
>> right? So he had little man breasts,
right? Man, [ __ ] tiss.
>> Yeah, [ __ ] tiss. You know the kind you
get teased.
>> You get nibble nipple twisters.
>> Yep. He got teased.
>> He was teased. He would not take his
shirt off when the boys all showered
together. He wouldn't do it.
>> Mhm.
>> Um
>> he was the fat kid in the pool in the
summertime with his shirt on.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> A little fat [ __ ]
>> Yeah. Hey, we know you're we know you
got tits under there,
>> you know. So, uh, that was clearly from
a young age and you can't imagine this
guy at a good piece, right? Like, if
you're a little boy with tits.
>> I don't imagine it at all, but okay,
>> Matt, imagine it. Have fun. Come on.
>> So, anyway,
>> be a professional. Imagine his
can't be swinging hammer.
>> His wife didn't say anything. We
>> She loved him for him. She was a great
lady. And by the way, his wife His wife
doesn't really say anything bad about
him.
>> Exactly. No, she's she's like This is
why I love Florida chicks. I love
Florida white women, dude. The most
loyal chicks, am I right? Except for
Casey Anthony. But listen, besides that,
Florida white women, I mean, the salt of
the earth. Salt of the earth lady. And
she was like, "Yeah, we just fell out of
love." And I knew he had some demons in
him as he's murdering and raping his way
across Tampa. But the guy wasn't
swinging hammer, bro. The guy was not
swinging the hammer of the gods. He was
not he was not a [ __ ] god as I like to
think of myself, you [snorts] know.
>> So anyway,
>> but he kept a mustache. You know, this
guy was
>> Yeah, the mustache is a it's a it's a
giveaway for you're you're compensating
for something.
>> Of course. Well, you got to eat box when
you have a tiny micro penis, which is
what I think this guy had. And I think
there was this builtup sexual
self-consciousness that comes from
childhood, right? This is all going to
come together.
>> So his he and his mother moved to
Florida to start a new life. She ends up
initially takes a job as like a a what
do they call her? A bar matron or
something. Whatever. She's working in a
bar. She dresses. She by the way she's
like a a a teen pregnancy. She's like 16
17 years old
>> and they end up with like a one-bedroom.
She has to sleep in the bed with him.
She's wearing very skimpy outfit.
>> She goes out. She's kind of a piece to
Yeah. She's very hot little thing.
>> And they're and they're in South
Florida. I think they're in like the
Orlando area or something like that. The
armpit. So, she eventually ends up
working as uh a prostitute, right?
Doesn't she end up being a prostitute or
working as a
>> No, no, no. She she just bringing boys
home.
>> Bringing guys home. That's right. She
didn't like it. He didn't like it cuz I
don't know if you remember this part,
>> but at one point they're at the beach
and she's paying attention to some other
guy or flirting with some guys on the
beach and he almost drowns,
>> right?
>> And so, somebody saves him and he gets
pulled up and she of course runs to him
and she he's furious. Why weren't you
watching me? What are you doing? So, um,
what are they called? Ripcurrens.
>> Yeah, there. Yeah, rip tides. There's
really bad rip tides in in in Florida.
So, I don't know if that was involved,
but I thought I'd throw that in there.
So, anyway, he gets saved. He's upset
with her. He's upset about that. They
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>> Do you remember when your parents Did
that ever happen to you? Like I remember
my parents let me get lost in the woods.
We were at some like we were at like a
friend's cabin when I was like four
years old.
>> Mhm.
>> And I they had a deck out back and I
wandered too far away from the house and
next thing you know I'm [ __ ] lost.
Right. And seemed like 3 hours probably
gone 10 minutes. But when your parents
find you you're so mad at them.
>> So you got to think his mom shaking her
little fanny. You know God bless her.
She's only 22 23 years old. She's kid.
She's uh shaking her ass for some
[ __ ] guys, you know, on Daytona Beach
and her son almost drowns. It's a
builtup anger and resentment toward her,
which is going to come into play later.
>> Yeah. He had uh he had huge uh anger
issues with his mother in general,
>> right? Well, and it manifested itself
later as as a hatred for women,
>> right?
>> Um so that happens and then, you know,
she starts dating guys as he gets a
little older. They're still living in
this tiny little one-bedroom apartment
and she starts bringing dudes home and I
think although the documentary doesn't
say so I think he heard her getting
plowed.
>> Yeah. He but some you got some guy or
the mom saying hey get out of the bed.
You got to go sleep on the couch. Some
guy goes to the bedroom in the bed I'm
supposed to be in and he's banging your
mom out in the next room.
>> Yeah. I never allow that. I'm like I'm
just going to bang you right here on the
couch.
>> Listen. I had a friend in in prison. I
know you hate I don't know why you say
that. Why you always laugh when I say I
had a friend. Uh but I I I knew a guy in
prison. I'm not sure how to say it, but
anyway, uh he told me one time he and
his girlfriend when he's like I think he
said he was 14 or 15 years old. He said
the most embarrassing thing that ever
happened to him in his life. He was
sitting on the couch with his with his
girlfriend watching a movie and his mom
stumbles in. He he was with like this
biker like they pull up on a [ __ ]
Harley.
>> Dude, that guy's swinging hammer the
gods.
>> They go upstairs. He said, "My mom's
room is right above us." He said, "I
mean, literally, we can hear like the
bed banging into the wall." And my mom
is like, [crying]
and he's like, "It's right." And he I
mean, my girlfriend looks at me. He I
was [ __ ] humiliated. He's like, "We
got up and we had to walk out and she
was like, "I'm so sorry." He's like, "I
can't believe that that just happened."
He just Yeah,
>> that's what you know, old moms were the
worst about that. there. Moms back in
the day were good for a lot of things,
but when they got plowed with their kids
in the next room, they just let it all
out. Well, I feel like mothers today are
more cognizant of bringing cuz, you
know, I'm at I'm 40. I'm now starting to
date women that have kids. You know what
I mean? I'm not a creep. I date age
appropriate. Not always, but sometimes.
And they're very they separate church
and state. You know what I mean? Like,
they don't allow neither the two shall
meet. And I don't want to see your
shitty kid anyways. You know what I
mean? Like, oh, Dad, shut up, kid.
You're lucky I don't beat you. Anyway,
>> it always kills me when they want they
want the the you know, like they want
the new kid to call you daddy. Like
what? Not calling me dad. I'm not his
[ __ ] dad.
>> No. No.
>> I don't know you. Hell out of here.
Here's a quarter.
He's like, "What do you think? A quarter
buys anything now? I need I need $10.
>> Here's 20 bucks. Leave for four minutes.
>> Here's 20. Here's $20. Go get a cup of
coffee and a scone.
>> Give me five minutes. Call an Uber.
We're calling you an Uber. I'm sending
you to the store. Sorry.
>> Oh, yeah. But you notice that like
remember Forest Gump's mom?
>> Yeah.
>> Remember when she needs to get him into
the good school?
>> Yeah.
>> And we can hear her
the
>> That was the guy doing the Yeah.
>> him cuz when the kid he walks out, he's
like, "Your mom sure does love you." And
he looks up at him. He goes,
[clears throat]
the kids guy's like walks off. Did you
see Forest Gum? Is [ __ ] great.
>> Yeah. But that's, you know, but again,
that's mothers getting plowed at home
because that's just what you did back in
the day. you didn't, you know, I don't
know. There's things were more cramped.
>> All right. So, anyway, he ends up having
multiple trauma uh traumas when he's
young.
>> So, that's traumatic as [ __ ] for him.
>> Yes. So, he has So, that's one trauma.
The other one is
>> build up.
>> He falls out of a tree or something and
he and he he he passes out, bangs his
head. When he wakes up, there's actually
a stick sticking out of his eye. That's
one thing. The other thing is he gets
hit by a car and he has um it smashes
his jaw and he has to have surgery and
he he forever has like a a dish a
misshaped jaw although I didn't really
notice it but apparently there's a
misshaped jaw.
>> Uh
>> so I think I think falling out of a tree
was big because
>> these are both these are both head
injuries, right?
>> Well, I mean the jaw thing he obviously
got hit in the head.
>> Sure. Sure. Sure.
>> So yeah,
>> these are two traumatic brain injuries.
>> Yes. You you add those. It's like an
equation.
>> The mom I'm like I'm some emotional
damage,
>> right? So it's like two times two. The
mom stuff letting them almost drown,
banging out her boyfriends in the same
bed that he sleeps in times the brain
injuries
>> plus the the [ __ ] tits and your friends
are picking on you non-stop.
>> Right. Yeah. T he's also a woman.
>> Has very high cheekbones.
>> Very high cheekbones. He is literally a
woman in a man's body. So, not great.
>> Who do you Who do you talk to about
that?
>> 1980.
>> Not a great upbringing, but he ends up
going into the military.
>> Yes.
>> Right. Gets married.
>> This was a don't ask don't tell era. So,
you could go into the military.
>> Gets married. Uh he gets married and the
woman is, you know, was she he was the
love of her life.
>> She was deeply in love with him.
>> Everything was great. Great marriage.
They he goes in the military. Uh he's
there for I think whatever three four
years and he gets into a car accident,
>> right?
>> No, motorcycle. He's on a motorcycle.
>> No, no, it's not. It's It's We're
jumping ahead a little bit.
>> Well, he was in the motorcycle. He was
on a motorcycle,
>> right? But this is after they've already
moved um
>> to the Tampa area. Yeah. They moved to T
military gets out of the military.
>> Mhm.
>> And then he that's when they moved to
Tampa.
>> But you got to remember
>> Tampa's Tampa. I know all the streets
everything that they they say. I'm like,
"Oh my god, that's Nebraska Avenue. I
know where that is. Oh my gosh, that's
David Island. I know where that is."
>> So, his wife, uh, God bless her, he
actually wasn't the best husband
because, uh, she cited a lot of domestic
violence initially. She initially when
it was still new.
>> Okay. Right. [laughter] Yeah. Yeah.
Exactly. When there was some excitement,
some some electricity in their marriage.
So, you're right. He gets in a car. He
gets in a motorcycle crash. Okay. This
is before they moved to Tampa. And this
really [ __ ] his head up. I'm not
talking about psychologically. Oh, I am.
I'm talking about literally, right?
[ __ ] his head up. He gets he gets a
concussion and now he's full Aaron
Hernandez. You know what I mean? He
suddenly wakes up out of his coma.
>> Horny as a [ __ ]
>> Hotter than a $2 pistol. Dude,
>> he [snorts] starts demanding sex from
her multiple times.
>> This is while in While in the hospital.
Also, while in the hospital, the nurses
said he was uncontrollably masturbating
all the time. He was masturbating
profusely. Constantly masturbating.
Right.
>> This is a It's got to be a lot if the
nurses are not like you can't The door's
not closed. Like, you can't
>> Right.
>> Isn't there a curtain? Don't you
[clears throat] hear him coming? Is he
just full-blown?
>> Yeah. I mean, I think it was a mix of
So, we So,
>> you can put that in the in the hook.
[laughter]
>> It's like a bassound.
>> Uh, yeah. Yeah. No, that's we call that
kind of masturbating uh ferocious. We
call that we call that a ferocious mix
of desperation.
>> He's [ __ ] going at it and then oh hey
coming in the room
>> coming in.
>> Right. Right. So he's jacking up like
imagine that kind of head injury. But
then we looked at some of these videos.
That's a real thing. That's one of the
symptoms of coming out of a coma is you
just you got to get the glue out. You're
just [ __ ] uncontrollably horny. So he
gets out. He goes back home and he
starts demanding sex from his wife. And
most wine women are like, "I'd love to
be [ __ ] twice a day, but he needed
>> after a couple of years,
>> she's wanting at least." Yeah. Yeah.
It's It's It's outrage. Yeah. She's
like, "It was just It was too much. It
was
>> Yeah. Even with his tiny little penis."
>> Yeah. Now, so now this guy's [ __ ] So
now Now this guy's got Now this guy's
sex appetite uh has been kicked into
high gear,
>> right? So what does he do? the wife's
not not giving it to you enough or you
need some strange. He comes up with a
system.
>> Hang on. Don't jump the shark. Don't
jump the shark. 1980 they get divorced.
But I think he does start stepping out.
He's he's dabbling a little bit.
>> Yeah. She does say he's he's going out.
He would tell her, "Uh, I just need I
just need to uh have a little bit of
time away from you and the kids." Yeah,
but it's 2 o'clock in the morning. Just
give me give me a couple hours.
>> Give me Give me man time. Okay. I got to
get a few out.
>> Just going to drive down to Every guy's
got one more in them.
>> Yeah.
>> You know,
>> Martin Luther King, drive through it.
Drive through down Martin Luther King.
>> Ah, yes. Yes.
>> Where the action is.
>> Well, they're not quite He's not in
Tampa yet, though. So, they get
divorced. They get divorced in 1980. In
1983, that's when he relocates to Tampa.
Now, he's on probation. He gets caught
up for a charge. Basically, from 1983 on
is when this [ __ ] has lost his
mind, right? Okay. He moves to Tampa.
[snorts]
>> All right. So Tampa's a good place. It's
a good like, you know, middlesize city
to lose your mind and start banging and
killing hookers. It is. It's big. It's
not huge, but it's big enough, right?
Plenty of street walkers, a lot of
people partying, right? A lot of weward
young women addicted to drugs. Uh, a lot
of marsh land around that you can dump
bodies in.
>> Yeah.
>> This is a solid city to do it in. You
know, Tampa's an underrated city. It
always has been. Yeah.
>> Yes. Um, so he relocates to Tampa. He
catches catches an assault charge. All
right. So now this guy's like violent
too, right? Uh when he's on probation
for that, he realizes, oh, okay, I can't
pick up street walkers the way I used
to, and I can't be out in bars as much
trying to, you know, in strip clubs and
[ __ ] like that because of the means of
terms of my probation. He begins using
newspaper classified ads, the for sale
sign ads, and furniture listings
specifically.
>> Very creative.
>> Extremely creative. where it's like if
you go on Craigslist now, free stuff,
right? Or or or for sale furniture. So
he he takes out he responds to these
classified ads, right, for furniture
listings specifically.
>> Yeah. Bedroom furniture. He liked
bedroom furniture.
>> He likes a nice big king-size bed,
>> right?
>> All right. He uses that to identify
women who lived alone.
>> So then he would show up as the buyer
posing as like the person who's
interested in buying your couch or your
or your bed, right? He would gain entry
and when he got in there, he would, you
know, he would prow peruse a little bit
and if he was sure that nobody was home,
he would then
>> right now if there was somebody else
there, he would have look at the
furniture and go, "Yeah, this isn't what
I thought it was. I'm not interested."
And then he he just leave. Like, it's
it's really it's a great way to have
people invite you into their house,
check out my house, check out Make sure
that's a situation you feel you can
>> you can take advantage of. And if it's
not, then you go, "Ah, yeah, I'm sorry.
I just can't. That's that's uh
>> that's um
>> too small."
>> Yeah.
>> Too small. Or that's that's mahogany.
And I really I'm really looking for more
of a more of an espresso uh brown.
>> I like a mocha.
>> Yeah. You know, yeah. I don't like the
stain. It's no good. I'm going to I just
can't do it. And he leaves.
>> And And back then that was when you had
a nonolor tiny little photo in the
classified. So it's not like today where
you could see it, you know?
>> Right. you can see 10 15 pictures of it.
So that made sense. So that was his ruse
to get in there. And I don't know what
he would say to kind of like, you know,
prod if he somebody else was at home,
but he figured it out.
>> And somehow he figured out and let's
>> Oh, there goes your husband. There goes
a guy. Okay. Well, hey, I'm I'm going to
I'm going to bounce.
>> And apparently this was this is a great
tactic for uh a because he knocks out 50
of them, never being questioned. That's
a hell of a way to put I mean my god.
>> Yeah.
>> That this is like talk about a talk
about a successful model.
>> Oh, seriously. This business model I
don't know had been tried yet.
>> No. And and no. Are the cops not looking
into this? I mean, you think you'd put
this together? Well, they do put it
together, but they can't seem to catch
him. Like I mean, run some ads like you
tell me that the that the Tampa Police
Department can't put a [ __ ] couple
ads in the newspaper,
>> right? But then they would have to get a
hot woman who would then have to pose. I
mean, I guess you could probably find
some hot chicks in the police force
here, maybe. I don't know. But you're
right. It does seem pretty obvious after
the first trunch. But again, this is the
' 80s. Bad police work. And by the way,
the Tampa police in the 80s, they're all
on code. They're all partying. A lot of
them are selling co a lot of them are
working for drug traffickers. I'm not
even kidding. Okay? So, it's kind of
like the Long Island police how they
[ __ ] botched the investigation of the
Gilgo Beach guy for like 10 or 15 years.
So, you let's face you don't have
geniuses down here. You got swamp
people. Um, but yeah. Anyway, so he, as
you like to, as you kindly put it, he he
knocks [laughter] out 50 R.
[snorts]
>> Oh, it pulls off.
>> You're the one who's making it this way.
I'm not [laughter]
You're making me You're desensitizing
me.
>> I am. I am. I am. And I love it. I love
it. [snorts]
>> So, he earns the nickname the classified
ad or the adman. The adman
classified ads. Yeah.
>> You know, somebody else at the police
station was like, "What about the admin
r?" And they're like, "Yeah, okay. We
can put it down."
>> [ __ ] Jimmy.
>> Jimmy has no [ __ ] ideas. Okay. Yeah,
whatever.
>> If your uncle wasn't on the force.
>> Yeah. Seriously, if your uncle wasn't
the the sergeant
>> Yeah. You'd be a [ __ ] security guard.
somewhere right now
>> if your uncle wasn't taking money from
all of the Colombian drug traffickers
and distributing it out.
>> So, how long does this go on? Do we know
a few years?
>> The preceded Hang on.
>> How long could you do this?
>> Hang on. I'm going to tell you. I'm
going to tell you.
>> The preceded his murders and continued
for roughly three years before the
killing began. So, this guy was
>> How many is that? That So, if there is
>> It was at least 50, bro, but it it could
have been more. Every two to three weeks
he's he's knocking one of these.
>> That's what they No, no, no. That's what
they said. Every two to three weeks he's
taking out a classified ad.
>> He doesn't take out the classified ad.
>> He's responding to a classified ad. And
because he's probably raping as fast,
he'd have been caught quick. [laughter]
>> They're coming to his house.
>> He's presenting. He's got his ass in the
air.
>> What's the Well, do you remember the
address? Yeah, it's right here. Page
five. [laughter]
>> No, here's the thing. He probably would
have put up more numbers if there were
enough. There's just not enough
classified ads. There's not enough
people in Tampa putting out couches for
sale.
>> And you have to call. It's got to be a
woman that answers.
>> It's got to be a woman that answers.
Yes. Your pool is limited. How do they
not catch? I mean, what if you walk in
and she's just like, she's like, "Oh,
uh, uh, my husband's at work. I'm here
alone."
>> What if she's smoking a cigarette
through her neck?
>> And then he's like, "No, this is the one
I'm looking for. You haven't even seen
the furniture yet. [laughter]
>> It's in the back.
>> There's my husband ain't home. Are you
sure? [laughter]
>> No.
>> No. No. No. No thanks. No thanks. Don't
you want to sit down on it? Next thing
you know, she's got her [ __ ] floppy
crusty tits out. [laughter]
>> He's like, she's like, I'll put up a
struggle if that's what you're looking.
Come on. [laughter]
>> And you know he's got you know he's got
the rope. That's easy.
>> He makes He makes nooes. Like he's got
like a noose in his body. He pulls out a
noose.
>> I know what you're here for. He's like,
"No, like I wouldn't even [laughter]
last.
>> Watch my tra
[laughter] watch my
>> mind."
She see southern mind.
>> Yeah. Mind my TRA. I'm a lady. You mind
my [laughter] Oh god.
Yeah. [snorts] So, how the [ __ ] did they
not catch this guy?
>> Yeah.
>> So, they she's got to she's got to show
up. She's got to be a looker and her
husband's got to be gone.
>> Yeah. That's a lot of driving, right?
It's it's it's no wonder it's every
three. He probably went to like six
before he got one that he was like,
>> "Yeah, but it's the 80s, bro. So 50
cents for a gallon of gas. This isn't
Jimmy Carter's 70s with the oil
embargo." Okay. This is cheap, abundant
Reaganite Reeganomics gas. 10.
>> So, he's going to eight or 10 of these
things before he's finding one. These
like
So it's literally like he's couch
shopping because you know when you want
go want to go buy a piece of furniture,
you don't just take the first one.
You're you're looking around.
>> Yeah.
>> So um and he's like brutally, you know,
he's pretty brutal about it.
>> Yeah. Yeah. He's not he's not he is
viciously raping these women.
>> Yeah. Right. So you could go watch uh
[laughter]
very creatively and very originally
describe the in these documentaries as
vicious.
>> Yeah. vicious or brutal. He brutal and I
was right.
>> I mean the just the term
>> is brutal in itself.
>> Isn't Isn't that doesn't that kind of
>> he he happily laughed?
>> Yeah. I mean like what is a laugh?
>> Is there a subtle you know he subtly
right? He he
>> I guess if you were swing
>> I guess if you were swinging dong Well
there is a passion to it but uh
unfortunately I guess if you were
swinging dong like really had like star
dick you probably wouldn't have to
>> but he's we're talking micro penis
>> right so you have to view it
>> really it's it's it's not it's not
brutal it's it's
kind of he's borderline
>> he's raping you like a jack rabbit [ __ ]
because he can't he doesn't have long
strokes so he's he's pummeling So, that
doesn't sound comfortable. Um, I don't
know that we're going to be able to put
this [ __ ] episode out. [laughter]
>> Col
graduates.
>> Yes. And And can I can you recall what
it was that made him graduate to
killing?
>> Uh, I did watch one interview with a
British woman that said he just wanted
he just wanted to kill them. So she
wasn't she didn't go deep into into
basically but there was also another guy
and he said
it was just the brutality of it. He just
got to a point where where he he simply
he he his the escalated to such a point
that he said between murder is a very
thin line and he got to a point where
for him to get such cruel gratification
he had to push that limit and it just
turned it just burst through and turned
into murder. He was just desensitized so
much. It's like when you appoint addict
that just starts off with something
subtle and then by the next thing you
know he's got to be hanging himself by a
noose just to be able to get a nut. You
know what I mean? Rest in peace David
Keredine.
>> He's a great actor. You know they found
him in Bangkok.
>> They found him in a hotel in Bangkok,
Thailand.
>> Hung himself with his [ __ ] in his hand.
>> That's a hero.
>> Who is it?
>> This was David Ker. D Carro. You don't
know who the actor?
>> I can't. I need to see his picture,
>> bro. Uh, Kung Fu, the show.
>> Oh, yeah. That was him. Get the [ __ ]
out.
>> That was him. He was hanging from a
noose. He was He was a He was a crazy
sex addict, and he was jerking off with
a rope around his throat. He must have
slipped.
>> Do you remember the guy from Hogan's
Heroes?
>> Sure. Yeah.
>> He had a whole thing. He was getting
renting motel rooms, getting
prostitutes, and videoing it and
everything. He ended up getting, I
think, was it shot or killed somehow?
>> Yeah. You know, he got shot.
>> Yeah. What?
>> Yeah, he got shot. Yeah, he got shot
like and they I now did they ever solve
it or was it his bodyguard? Something.
Anyway, it he just had this bizarre
insane [ __ ] personal life that like
nobody even knew was out there.
>> Mhm. Yeah. That's that's we talked about
sex addiction in the last interview.
That's that's real like like when you go
to some of these meetings, it's you
really see guys like this and you're
like that's fascinating. I met a guy at
one of these sex addict meetings, dude.
He goes up there, he's like a homeless
looking guy.
>> You hear this? He's got to
>> Why were you at the sex addict?
>> I told you because remember I got I got
caught cheating with my ex.
>> I know.
>> Yeah. I got caught cheating with my ex
and she made me go and that was the
excuse. I was like, "Baby, I have a
disease."
>> And so I went to these I went to these
sex meetings. I went to these sex addict
meetings and quickly I was like, "Oh,
I'm not a sex addict. I'm just a
asshole." I mean,
>> the guy, okay, so this guy goes up
before [laughter] a room of like a
hundred losers and we're all like he's
doing his share and he goes,
>> "My name's Wayne and um I'm addicted to
getting scammed online.
I'm addicted to getting scammed by
online scammers." These ladies would he
would meet ladies in chat rooms and they
would say, "I love you. Can you send me
money?" And he would drain his bank
account. And he would do that every he
would do that like every six months and
he would go broke and he would never
meet these women. They would they would
re reel him into a relationship. I was
like, "Wow,
>> you're he's got problem.
>> That guy sucks.
>> That guy is [laughter] [ __ ] what a
[ __ ] [ __ ]
>> I'd rather go out like David Ker, bro.
>> What are you doing?"
>> Yeah. So, but anyways, it's wild. It's a
a man. What did Frederick Frederick
Nishi say? I don't know if Nishi said
it. some some 17th 18th century
philosopher. Most men lives live lives
of quiet desperation. And Baba,
[screaming]
>> he was not going out that way.
>> He was not, but he was living some he
was living a life of he was not going
out desperate. You're right. He was kind
of taking life by the by the balls, if
you will,
>> you know. Um, so March 27th, 84 is the
date uh where this rampage begins.
>> Yeah.
>> Right. This is not He was not here for a
long time as we're going to see, but he
was here for a good time.
>> And a good time he had. All right. March
27th, 84, Bobby Jolong and strangled
20-year-old artist Anne Wick, who had
hitchhiked from Gas City, Indiana. Did
not know that such a place existed. Gas
City. That sounds like a [ __ ] dump.
Gas City, Indiana, where it's open.
That's a marketing name, right? Like the
We'll call it Gas City. Gas City. And
the and the oil companies will come here
literally.
>> They will Yeah. And they will set up
shop cuz they'll like the name Gas City.
>> No. No.
>> I don't know. I've never been to Gas
City.
>> It's not going to happen.
>> Carl, stop it.
>> Yeah.
>> But then it became the name. And pretty
next thing you know, Carl's the mayor of
Gas City, Indiana. Gas City, Indiana.
She hitchhiked to Tampa to get engaged
to be married. This is what people do
from Indiana in the 80s. It's like it's
like a It's You know what it's like?
It's like a uh Tom Petty song. If you're
>> I'm catching a bus to Tampa.
>> If your fiance allows you to hitchhike
to come get married, you don't need to
marry that [ __ ]
>> No, no, no, no, no. But you do. He is
getting you out of gas city. So, but she
didn't last long. She came to Tampa in
search of a dream and she was murdered.
>> Yeah. He he told her he could give her a
ride.
>> Yeah.
>> You need a ride?
>> That's right. So, basically, he would
pull over. He had a variety of ways to
woo women. uh he was not using the
classified ads to kill because he had
already used up that route.
>> That's a separate thing I do on the
side. That's a separate hobby I have on
the side.
>> I kind of just do this, you know,
separate from my serial killing,
>> right? I don't like to be painted with
like just one brush, right?
>> No, but you know what it was? He used up
that route. He used up that lick. Yeah.
>> Right. Because now women are on the
>> That wasn't enough anymore. Now he's
>> No, but also but he could still just
kill those women.
>> He could have. But what I'm saying is
>> by the time no but the for sure but by
the time that he started killing
>> there was a rap who' been stalking the
Tampa area. So now women knew keep your
guard up if you've got a strange guy
coming over to look at a piece of
furniture.
>> At this point the cops are probably
leaving dummy ads out%. I mean he's
thinking at some point I'm walking in
>> to a trap to a setup.
>> Yeah. I'm going to grab some [ __ ]
chick and there's going to be 12 [ __ ]
cops hiding in the
>> right
>> in the house somewhere. So, that's kind
of why I think he just went back to
really he was cowboying it. I mean, he
met he met women outside of strip clubs,
right? The first woman he killed was uh
was a stripper. That was artist and
Wick.
>> Um Asian.
>> Oh, that's right. Yeah. That's right. He
meets her in the strip club and invites
her home. That's right. and says he can
give her a ride home and then gets in
the car and then he and kills her and
then dumps her body out like in loots or
something.
>> That's right. Way out in the sticks in
the in the bogs, right? Uh brutal. And I
think he slits her throat or he stabs
her to death after strangling her to
make sure
>> he tried to strangle her to death and
she survived. And
>> remember we talked about strangling is
not that easy.
>> It's not that easy. And so he went ahead
and stab and cut her throat.
>> She Yeah.
>> Yeah. He cut a throat uh and left her
body out there. Wouldn't be discovered
for actually another eight months. Are
you serious?
>> Yeah. A lot of these bodies weren't
discovered for a long time and they were
de
>> She's the one that was after he gets
caught. She's the one that they find
after he gets caught. Like two weeks
after two or three weeks after he gets
caught.
>> Exactly. Exactly. And so a lot of these
bodies are decomposed. A lot of the
prints have been burnt off, you know,
from the from the heat. Animals have
been gnawing at them. Uh May 13th.
>> Yeah. Florida's not it's not it's not
good on on it's not a good place to be
outside. Yeah, Florida the the Florida
weather is is brutal, right?
>> Honestly, I had a walk around Seminal
Heights close to where I used to do this
last night. Lovely. Lovely. But you got
to be out at night, you know.
>> Yeah,
>> you got to be out at night where men can
come and kidnap you. Uh May 13th, 84, uh
Nwin Lana Long, also a lady of the
night, right? And some of these were
good girls, but they had drug h drug
habits, drug drug addictions. strippers.
They're good girls.
>> Some of them.
>> They're crazy.
>> Yeah,
>> they're crazy.
>> Yeah, it's it's it's really it's a
>> lot what what you'll put up with for
hot.
>> I know. I know. I mean, my friend's mom
was literally bipolar. Would have
breakdown schizo breakdowns. And his dad
still married her cuz she was [ __ ]
hot, you know? So, yeah.
>> You know, ladies, if you're hot, you
don't really have to work on yourselves.
>> Don't take your meds. We'll still marry
you. You know what I mean?
>> We just have a padded room somewhere in
there. Yeah. I do. We just give you a
dog toy when you start biting.
>> Throw it in.
>> You get a a treat. Throw it in the room.
Then boom. Okay. I let her out in two
days.
>> Exactly. Yeah. Slip some dog treats in
there.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. You have like a little slot with
food and you just mix up all the
medication in it.
>> Right. Yeah. Here's some apple juice.
>> Yeah. Applesauce. Um so Lena Long, 19,
was killed. Uh investigators would later
connect her death to Michelle Sims
murder through matching red carpet
fibers. Okay. So, the red carpet fibers
are key because our man Bobby Joe Bobby
Joe was kind of he had a hot car, dude.
The guy had some style.
>> Magnum. A magnum.
>> He was driving around a [ __ ] Dodge
Magnum, dude. The original Magnums. Like
this [ __ ] was like uh Crockett
and Tubs like pulling up in some like
Vice City or what do you call it? Uh
Miami Vice type [ __ ] So he had a hot
red car and he murdered he would start
he would strangle people in it.
>> Right. Well, at some point at the very
least at some point they're in the car
and they pick up trilobyl red trillobal
fibers which is what the the carpet is
made of. Right.
>> Right. Exactly.
>> And you've got some of that carpet is
probably or you know on the the side and
you know it's it's you know it's in
there and it's going to get on you.
There's transference. It's going to get
on you. And so a lot of these victims,
they find this these little tiny pieces
of of carpet,
>> but they find that after he's already
locked up. Like this is one of these
things where there's not
>> No, no, no. They find it during. They
know during the whole time. Yeah. Yeah.
Dur. No, they find it the very first
one. They find it.
>> Oh, okay. What am I I guess I guess they
didn't make the case. They didn't make
the case from it is I guess what I'm So
they find her body, but the but they
start finding the bodies and they're
they're they're tied up. So he's tying
them up. He leaves a noose around their
neck. He binds their hands,
>> right?
>> And they would show up and there'd be
these fibers on them. The one detective
said, "Listen, after the third victim, I
could literally bend over and I could
spot the fibers." Right. And and he also
said he said like I would show up at the
by the by the second or third one he
showed up before he even he was getting
out of the car and he saw he saw um a
[ __ ] deputy and he said he goes hey
he said was this girl bound and he goes
yep she's tied up and he goes he said he
said I knew I knew we got a serial
killer this is a serial killer
>> right and uh good work there
>> yeah good work crockett
>> but by that point he said you could he
said we'd already started finding the
fibers and he could walk up and he said
I would bend over and I could look and I
could actually spot the fibers and I
think [ __ ] we got fibers too. It's
definitely same.
>> So that was the that was the through
line. You're right. I guess what I meant
was this is before DNA so they're not
able to use that in any kind of
scientific purpose, you know, but
they're they're able to connect them
later after
>> it's not 100% right. Like it's like
>> cuz how many people have red carpet?
>> It's like a tire track or a footprint
like you know it it it
>> you can use it. It's a part it's a tool,
but it's not like, hey,
>> it's not damning.
>> How did your How did your, you know, um,
semen get inside of my victim's anus,
>> right? No, I I I put it in there. Turkey
basted it. Yeah. Put it in one of those.
>> You know, I think you've come into
contact with her.
>> I sold I sold it to her on the dark web.
>> She boofed it. Anyways, um, so and I
want to point out, yeah, this guy is a
sick puppy. Like, there's not much
elegance to his killing. We'll say, you
know, Samuel Little was kissing his
victim victims on the lips, telling them
that he loved him.
>> Yeah. As they drifted off into the abyss
>> into the Yes. Yes. into the atmosphere.
So, uh, he didn't do that. It was it was
savage, you know, his anger and his
frustration, his hatred towards his
mother and to women in general, which
had, you know, been manifesting and
boiling and all these events that had
come together, plus his horniness from,
you know, the motorcycle accident,
>> from the brain trauma. the brain trauma.
Uh he's
>> there's no impulse control.
>> No. Uh he's murdering these women,
stabbing a lot of them to death,
slitting their throats, binding and
gagging them,
>> choking them.
>> Choking them. Uh putting them in, you
know, similar to the BTK story, uh
Dennis Raider kind putting them in
crazy, humiliating, almost demonic
positions. Not sure if this in this case
if it he meant to do that. Uh but he
would they would find women like hog
tied
>> uh out in the woods, you know, crazy
crazy [ __ ] So, do you remember, by the
way, let's let me ask you this. You were
15 years old at the time. Do you
remember this story when it was
happening in real time?
>> No, but I I don't. But but um I am
fascinated by the fact that I know all
the locations and like as soon as they
say Nebraska, I'm like,
>> you know what I'm saying? As soon as
they say certain streets or certain are
they're like oh and they he dumped the
body 10 miles away in Brandon. I used to
live in Brandon, right? You know like
>> that was a seedy area.
>> Yeah. These are Listen, Florida Avenue
where one of this is there's Nebraska
and Florida Avenue. My office was on
Florida Avenue.
>> Was there for three years, you know? So,
>> but you don't remember. So, there wasn't
like a a scare all over the all over the
news like like other zero killers. You
know, I'm I'm a kid. I don't
>> You don't give a [ __ ] You're Yeah,
you're 15. I'm just trying to [ __ ]
>> You're trying to save up to get your
[ __ ] 5.0. Your Mustang 5.0.
>> I didn't have to save. My dad bought it.
We were upper middle class, bro. I was
just giving.
>> Bro, you're a spoiled [ __ ] kid. My
parents didn't buy me [ __ ] bro.
>> My parents and I'm actually upper middle
class.
>> Like, I'm actually
I was born upper middle class. We We
were raised up middle class. Had a nice
We lived in Temple Terrace.
I I got like literally every summer I my
mother would buy me a pass to Busushch
Gardens and Adventure Island and I would
jump on my bicycle and ride.
>> Listen. And it was like it's like it's
like a four mile ride. Like I I'm doing
it like there's nothing, you know? Of
course I'm I'm 13, 14, 15 years old.
Whoosh. Whoosh. Play I played soccer at
the at the rec center which was only
five or six blocks away. We had
Buccaneers that lived on us. All the
everybody around us were lawyers and
CPAs and
>> Oh, so okay. You actually grew up richer
than me.
>> Wow.
>> So we had my all all three of my
siblings when they were 16 years old got
cars.
>> Oh my god. We grew up in the projects
compared to you, dog.
>> I live we were we were our next door
neighbors were on the Hillsboro River.
So they're on the river.
>> We weren't on the river. My mother threw
this in my face many times. You know why
we don't have a house on the river? Why?
because I was 7 years old when we built
and moved in the house and they could
have bought a lot on the river and lived
on the river, but I was seven and my
father said, "No, my fear is that he
will he will fall in the river and drown
and I won't be able to live with
myself." So, we lived across the street
from the river. She's like, "And that's
why we don't live on the river."
>> You see, that's that's a woman
guilt.
>> But that's a woman, though. She would
rather risk her child's life to have the
best real estate.
>> She can have another kid. I get it. Of
course you can have another kid. Yeah,
back then, dude, it was normal to lose a
kid. Uh, that's wild. We had
hand-me-down clothes. We drove like
shitty My dad would buy like shitty
$2,000 cars. Like if one of us went to
college, we had like tiny little like I
had a Subaru hatchback from like the
80s. I sold a lot of drugs out of that
thing.
>> Well, I actually, by the way, I did not
have I didn't get a a a brand new car
until I was 18. My first car was a used
BMW. [clears throat] was very
embarrassed about that. No, that is
that's pretty shameful. I've never
actually had a new
>> couple. You're about two years old.
>> Really?
>> Gh. Gross. Yeah, you were sluming it.
You were sluming it. Wow. So, you really
had no excuse for the path you went
down. Interesting. Okay. So, yeah. You
don't give a [ __ ] when this is happening
at all. I bet your mom remembered
though.
>> I do remember my mother muttering
[ __ ]
>> Something about [ __ ] Thank George.
>> AH, GEORGE IS MURDERING [ __ ] GEORGE,
>> YOU FOUND ANOTHER [ __ ] H
>> a murderer home.
>> My mother would never say that.
[laughter]
I feel bad even joking about that.
>> Oh man, that's [ __ ] crazy [ __ ] on
your mom like that, dude. On camera.
Rest in peace.
>> Listen, my
favorite thing was Listen, real quick. I
got a mom. My mom's in a wheelchair. I
get out of prison. I would go visit her
like like three, four times a week and
go have uh lunch with her. I'm having
lunch with her in her room. Sometimes we
go to like the restaurant, but we're in
the room having lunch and my my home
title lock commercial comes on TV.
>> It's on It's on like CNN.
>> It comes on
and my mom and I go, "Mom, mom, mom."
And she's like, "What?" I go, "Who's
that? Who's that?" And she looks up and
it just then it changed and it was N.
Gingrich. Cuz I was interviewing N.
Gingrich. She goes, "N Gingrich?" I go,
"No, no, no, wait, wait." And and I go,
"Who?" And it's me. And I go, "Who's
that?" And she goes, "Oh, that's you."
And I said, "That is me. This is my
commercial. I'm on a commercial." She
goes, "Oh,
when was the last time you called your
brother?" [laughter]
>> She doesn't give a [ __ ]
>> He didn't give a [ __ ] She
>> Mothers don't care about that. They
don't care about
>> Do you have a You don't have any colored
shirts? And I go, "No, I have colored
shirts. You don't wear them?" I I'll
wear a collared shirt. Okay.
>> You don't? Aw,
>> you're growing a beard.
>> No, I just didn't shave. Oh, well, it's
time to shave. [laughter]
>> The guilt. The guilt.
>> You don't get haircuts anymore.
[laughter]
>> Like
just judgment and guilt. God,
>> do you wash your pants that tight? No.
No, Mom. I've I've gained a little
weight. Oh,
it's time to lose some weight.
>> That's awesome. Yeah.
>> Start counting calories. What the [ __ ]
are you doing?
>> Did she understand why you went to
prison? Did she understand
[clears throat] what bank fraud was?
Mortgage fraud.
>> But at that point, she was in her
>> late 60s.
Probably 71, 70, something like that.
Cuz I was on the run for 3 years. Then I
get arrested.
>> So she was still more lucid.
>> Yes. It wasn't until she was still
pretty sharp. She just was in a in a
wheelchair. Once you lose mobility, you
go downhill quick. She was 93 when she
died.
>> Yeah. Wow.
>> In her 90s when I got
>> 90 when I got out of prison.
>> Wow. Wow. Yeah.
>> 9091. I got to spend like two years with
her before she passed away. Yeah.
>> She's a gangster, bro. Yeah. Every two
weeks for 13 years
in even the last [ __ ] three or four
years in the wheelchair
>> visiting you.
>> Visiting my My brother would say my
brother my my brother would she want him
to bring me. My brother would go, "Mom,
you know, you're in the wheelchair.
Maybe we shouldn't go up." And she'd go,
"Well, no, we'll go in the wheelchair."
And yeah, I know, but you get so tired,
you know. And and she goes, "Well, then
I'll nap." And Eddie goes, "Why know,
but you know they make us wait in the
waiting room." She goes, "Well, I'll be
in the wheelchair. [laughter]
>> We're going. We're going."
[clears throat]
>> Your mom's like, "Come out of it. I'll
be in a wheelchair."
>> She's looking at me. She's looking at
him like, "You [ __ ] [ __ ]
>> I'm already sitting down.
>> [ __ ] jackass." You know, just like
we're going.
>> Now, did they give your mom the full
search? Could your mom have brought in
some balloons?
>> I don't know. [laughter]
Listen, my mom, she would have been
like, "Yeah, you trying to get me thrown
in here with you."
>> She [clears throat] said it a few times.
Yeah, I don't think the guards are going
to feel your mom up because you know
they get invasive. These guys are
pervert. Oh, these guards are [ __ ]
perves, bro.
>> With these young hot women that are
there to see their drugdeing boyfriends.
Yeah.
>> Oh, yeah. Yeah.
>> Um, okay. So, point is this was going
on. The point is, uh, Bobby Joe Long
didn't make a splash in young Matt Cox's
life. Okay. So, back to Bobby Joe Long.
Um, did he just He also shocked people.
>> Yeah. Yeah. in in the case he he only
ended up abducting and raping and
killing uh one black prostitute which uh
was I forget her name. What's her name?
>> Chanel Devon Williams.
>> Yes. So she was
>> Well, he killed a bunch of prostitutes.
He only killed one black prostitute and
he only shot her. He only shot her
because she put up a fight. It was it
was almost impossible to he couldn't
seem to strangle her because she's
fighting.
>> That's like the Dave Chappelle joke.
like black people, we make terrible
hostages. You can never take us as
hostages, you know, cuz we talk too much
[ __ ] right? So, he kidnaps this this
young lady, 18, very sad. She used to be
a prostitute and then she was kind of
getting back out there.
>> Yeah. She was just getting her wings
again.
>> She thought she was a full-time
prostitute. She's just like, "Fuck, I'm
broke. I really need some money." She'd
go out for a night. Yeah. And she made
>> picked her up. Long long picked her up
while she was walking along a Tampa
Street, probably Florida Avenue or one
of these, you know, on the strip. They
called it the strip.
>> Yeah.
>> Um he picked her up uh tried to rape her
uh and then strangle her. She was she
was putting up too much of a fight.
>> So he shot her in the back of the head,
dumped her body. Uh and again, you guys
got to remember if we read this seems
like this this takes place over a matter
of 6 months. He's just killing
prostitutes. 10 bodies. That's a lot.
That's a lot of chicks in six months. Um
October 7th, October 14th, 84, kills
Karen Beth Dins, 28, a mother to a young
daughter, found dead. Uh October 31,84.
Kimberly Kyle Hops, 22, killed. Um Vicky
Marie Elliot, September 7th, 84. On and
on and on. Okay, bodies are starting to
pop up. Clearly, they're the cops are
kind of not calling this a serial killer
case yet. Um, but it's pretty obvious it
is, especially from the red the red
carpet fiber.
>> The the the the
um homicide detectives know by by the
second one they already suspect. By the
third, they're like, "That's it. We've
got a serial killer." Yeah, for sure.
Like, they know it for sure. They But,
you know, what are you going to do?
They're just waiting around. And they
said the same thing. They said, "I mean,
we're getting what? We have to match
this to somebody. We have no suspects,
>> right?
>> At one point though,
>> they Well, at one point Okay. Well, this
is later. This is uh this is when the
girl the young girl
>> Yeah. Well, we're going to we're going
to talk about it. We can talk about it
right now because
>> he starts to get a little sloppy. I
mean,
>> soft.
>> Soft is soft is the word because he's
not leaving any witnesses, right? Like
that's his MO. He's killing and not
leaving any witnesses. He finally leaves
a witness, which would be his undoing.
>> You want to go into it? November 3rd,
1984, in the early hours,
>> in the morning, just got off her
donut shop job.
>> Right. This is not even a prosecy. This
is not even a think about it. That's
really what it is, right? Like these are
these other women are prostitutes.
They're not work. They're not worth,
right? I can I'll kill them. Who gives a
[ __ ] This is a young girl riding her
bicycle home
>> from her job. Crispy Cream.
>> Isn't she like 15 or 16? 17. 17. He
might see her as like a civilian.
>> Yeah.
>> Right. Or whatever it was.
>> Literally snatches her off her bike.
Like pulls the car up as knows she's
coming. As she's coming, he's standing
there. Boom.
>> Grabs her and yanks her right off the
bike, leaves the bike there, throws her
in the [ __ ] car,
>> blindfolds her, drives her to his home.
Now he's Matt, what is he doing? He's
[ __ ] where he eats, right?
>> He's [ __ ] where he eats. Drives her
home to his house repeatedly over
roughly 26 hours. So, and she she's a
survivor, so we watch her give her
testimony about this. Um, it's very
strange. Uh, he promises that she'll be
fine if she just does what she's told.
>> I'm sure he said that to the prostitute,
too. That's not very comforting.
>> That's a good point. But he after he
like puts her in the shower.
>> Yeah.
>> Brings her back out again.
>> Uh, and at a certain point, she gets
smart. Now, she's first of all, she's
touching everything all over the house,
right? trying to get her DNA or
something.
>> I'm glad you saw that one because she
knew
>> she had been sexually before and she
knew I need to remember
>> what's where I am in case I can get
away. I need to leave evidence.
>> So she starts touching things under the
toilet places that she knew he was
probably not going to clean and starts
remembering things about the apartment
details.
>> Yeah. Very smart smart girl
>> cuz she has a blindfold on. She can
sometimes kind of see under. So, she's
trying to get a make of who he is.
Right. Right.
>> Um, does he say he loves her at one
point?
>> I don't think so.
>> Does he pull a little?
>> No. No, he doesn't. He doesn't do that
at
>> Are you sure?
>> I'm She said that he at some points he
was extremely kind and then
>> he was falling for her.
>> Yeah. And then she'd say something he'd
blow up like he she'd go, "Can I have
some water? What the [ __ ] do you think
this is?" You know what I'm saying?
She'd be like, "But then go get the
water.
>> What do you think this is? Gang raping a
brutal rap?" Yeah.
>> Is this we're into 25 hours of this? Can
I get some cranberry juice or something?
>> So, so
>> anyway, she at some point she says or he
says to her like it's it's wrapping up,
right? Like he's got a job. He's got to
go and it's it's
>> Yeah, I'm hungry. I got to go.
>> Yeah. It's basically like, "Hey, this is
>> it's time for me to take you." Now, she
thinks that could mean, "Oh, he's taking
taking me to kill me."
>> No, he says, "What am I going to do with
you?" And she's she's at this point
she's scared. She's like, "Well,
listen." She's like, "You seem like a
nice guy." She said, and and cuz he
complained about not having a
girlfriend. She goes, "Why don't How
come I Why can't I be your girlfriend?"
She's like, "I can stay here with you. I
can be your girlfriend. I won't tell
anybody how we met." Like, she's trying
to stay alive. She's saying,
>> "Smart young girl, smart young woman,
>> right?" And he stops and he goes, "No, I
I can't stay here. I can't leave you
here." Then he goes, "No, you know
what?" He said, "Um, I'm I got to drop
you off. I'm dropping. She's never taken
the blindfold off of even though she
says I've seen him. Like I could see at
times when he's raping her and stuff,
she could see him and she felt his face.
She knew what he looked like.
>> He had a mustache,
>> right? And and she knew he had small
ears. She knew she knew he had a micro
penis.
>> So she can see underneath. She's seen
him. And he even said, "I knew that
there were times that I I believe that
she was able to see me out from
underneath the thing." But he he didn't
want to let himself believe that. So he
says, "No, no, I'm going to drop you
off." So he takes her and he drops her
off a few blocks from her house. While
in the car on on his way to take her
back to her house, he stops, leaves her
in the car, and she looks up and sees
him go to an ATM machine and get cash
out. She knows the ATM machine is not
far from where she lives. She also looks
up and she sees Magnum on the dashboard.
So, and she knows the carpet, it's red,
the interior is red.
>> He then drives a few blocks from her
house, drops her off. And the whole time
she's thinking, he's going to choke me
to death. He's going to kill me.
[clears throat] Doesn't pops the door.
Get out. Stay here for for 10 minutes.
Do not take the blindfold off. Do not
wait 10 minutes. And he drives off.
>> That's it. It's amazing. She actually
got him to open up. The fact that he
would admit to her like, "Oh man, I want
a girlfriend. Like, I can't seem to meet
a nice girl in this town." as he's
raping her. I mean, it's pretty wild.
Like,
>> these guys aren't normal. Like, they're
not
>> normal guy,
>> but he really did see prostitutes as
like disposable. He didn't see them as
humans. And now you've got this doughnut
shop girl just riding her bike home.
Classic Americana kind of knight. And
he's like, I'm going to have mercy on
you.
>> Samuel Little thinks that that his 97
victims are waiting for him in heaven,
and they're all going to be friends. He
calls them his 90 not I'm sorry 96 sorry
his 96 angels
>> a
>> that's sweet
>> I mean these guys are not normal
>> no
>> so she goes to the c she goes to the
cops she describes everything they put a
bolo out
>> bolo is
>> uh uh be on the lookout for Tampa's not
as massive as it is now. No.
>> Right. Not that it's massive in
comparison to like New York, but
>> but back then it was a lot smaller kind
of a town
>> in a general area. She also knows he
doesn't live that far from her. A few
miles. She knows the direction they
travel in. She knows. So she can driving
um
>> she knows what kind of car he's driving.
So she can basically circle an area. He
definitely lives in this basic area. And
so what do they do? They they well one
they pull the DMV. But what they do is
they start pulling over every single red
Magnum in that area
>> and they search the vehicles and they
and he lets them search. They pull him
over.
>> They pull him over. They say, "Look, you
match the description of a guy that was
caught robbing like a a liquor store or
something. They some ruse.
>> They don't." So, he doesn't think it has
anything to do with him.
>> He gets out of the car. He says, "Yeah,
you can search the car." Now, he's
vacuumed the [ __ ] out of the car. He's
cleaned the car up, but doesn't matter.
He doesn't know about the transference.
So they they look in the car. There's
nothing in the car that links them. They
take a photo and he even stands there
and lets them take a photograph of him.
So so they can show like so I can show
the liquor store owner. Let me take a
photo of you. They go, they lay out like
40 pictures for her within a few days.
She flips through. No, no, no. That's
the man that raped me.
>> Just like that. Boom. And they were
like, "Got him." So here's the other
thing as far as
>> Would that have been enough? Would you
think that would have been enough in
court in the 80s to convict somebody
just to a lineup? Lineups are
notoriously inaccurate. They they they
don't really use them in most states
anymore. Here's what you got. Look,
prior to the um prior to people wanting
all of the forensic evidence, what they
had was um they most most cases are
circumstantial. And here's what they do
have. They have the the tire prints from
his vehicle. And what's interesting is
that like he had like three Goodyear
tires and he had one tire that was some
off some weird off-brand that was super
odd in reverse. So the white wheel was
in
>> Does that make sense? Like so it's it's
reverse,
>> right?
>> And it was called like a there's some
name of the tire. It's a weird name.
>> So it's like he got a flat and he had to
get a a spare put on there. It's like he
didn't get the same factory type,
>> but he got like a cheap flat. some cheap
[ __ ] Korean brand or I don't know
what it was. I'm just joking back. I
don't know. But anyway, the point is is
that it's so abnormal. They actually fly
they take a cast of it and it's at like
three they they've got cast from like
three different of the murders. This
vehicle is at all three.
>> So we've got So anyway, they actually
take a cast of it and they fly to and
this is the thing a tire imprint or tire
print expert. There's actually somebody
there's a tire imprint
>> that has enough business to be a tire
print. We got a guy.
>> We need you know what we need here.
>> A tire print.
>> They fly out the thing with with they
fly out a detective out to wherever
Texas or something and they show it to
him and he looks at he goes, "Oh, that's
a ZV17V from from the such and such and
pulls it out and did you find the name
of it?"
>> It's some weird name of the tire.
Anyway, the So, they get the tire
and they go, "Okay, so now they know."
So, what they do is they start watching
old uh um Bobby Joe. Yeah.
>> They watch Bobby Joe and he goes to the
movies one day by himself as serial
killers do.
>> Yeah.
>> I guess I'm a serial killer.
>> I've actually been in the movies by
myself, mainly tire a Vogue.
>> Oh, a Vogue. A Vogue. I know what a
Vogue is. Yeah.
>> Yeah. A Vogue tire,
>> right? So, it's a weird Oh, yeah. If you
listen to rap, you would hear a lot
about Vogue tires.
>> Well, so this was apparently when it was
a very odd tire, so it wasn't
>> Oh, okay.
>> So, so here's what they do is they are
watching him. They said he has no idea
that he's watching a movie with like
he's like there's two detectives here.
There's a cop. There's like four guys
around him because the problem is is
that he's he's he's cruising and their
fear is like we're watching him. We
don't want him to pick us pick up a
prostitute,
>> right?
>> So, we know it's him. we're positive
it's him. And so while they're watching
him,
they send out uh they send one of the
detectives out to his car and he says,
"I" and the main detective says, "Look
at all four tires. What kind of tires
are they?" Guy goes, "I got three
Goodyears and I got some weird [ __ ]
tire called like a a Vogue or something
like that." And he goes, "Holy shit." He
turns around, goes to the goes to the
judge. [clears throat] Here's what we've
got. We want to arrest this guy.
>> So what do they have? They have
>> they have his vehicle at three different
sites, right?
>> They have on the bodies of four or like
six out of the 10 bodies, they have the
trillobal red carpet fibers from his
vehicle
>> from the Magnum.
>> Yes.
>> How many tire prints are at? How many
locations do you remember? I think
several.
>> Yeah, several. It wasn't all of them
because, you know, some of them are
dropped off where he stopped on
pavement.
>> Right. Right. But he did drive into the
Yeah. He would go up a road like a dirt
road. It's Tampa mud. Yeah. Yeah,
especially back then.
>> Mhm.
>> So, yeah, he's driving out in the middle
of kind of the wooded areas and leaving.
It's mushy and stuff. And so, they're
getting a print.
>> He has to pull off the side of the road
in the dirt.
>> Uh, and so and and we have a witness
that also had trilobyl was in the
vehicle. We have the at the ATM
withdrawals, which we've linked to him.
>> How do they how do they do that? How do
they link these?
>> Because she said she explained that he
this is a guy that got money out of the
ATM that is three blocks three or four
blocks away from my house or half a mile
away. I knew the ATM. So when they just
run it that night they dropped her off
at this time. Run it. Great. We got
seven people use the ATM within this
2-hour period of time. His name's one of
them.
>> So you can do that. Do you have to get a
warrant to do that? Like
>> of course
cops can go to an ATM
>> to the bank. Yes.
>> At the Yes. and go to the bank and say,
"Hey, we want a list of everybody who's
pulled money out."
>> Yes. At this point, well, we're not
asking for how much it is. Just did you
use it?
>> Wow.
>> Right. That's not difficult. You
understand that right now?
>> I mean, it makes sense, but I've just
never heard that.
>> Right. So, I'll give you an example.
Right now, let's say there's a federal
Let's say right now there's a federal um
case against you. They're looking at
you.
>> What do you think the likelihood? What
do you think the procedure is if they
say, "Hey, we want to get a copy of his
bank records."
>> What do you think they have to do?
>> Bank. Call the bank.
>> No. No. But but how do they get
permission to do that?
>> They call the bank and ask.
>> Well, I mean really what they do is they
they get a subpoena. Do you know? So to
to make the You can call the bank and
ask. They're not going to give you [ __ ]
>> Even the feds? Are you sure?
>> No. Yeah. Because I know what has to
happen. The US attorney that's assigned
to your case, you have to they have to
go to him and say, "Look, this is what
we we're looking at this guy. We know he
sells drugs. We got some photographs. We
talked to a snitch. We want to look at
[clears throat] his bank account." And
they go, "Oh, absolutely." They write
out a subpoena. Boom. That's it. No
judge, no proving anything, no nothing.
The guy wants to look at my bank at your
bank account. That's it. They have
access, 100% access, but but they get
access from the bank.
>> From the bank,
>> right? So, the bank has to do that,
>> right? But what I'm saying is it's not
difficult,
>> right? It's not they can do it without
uh
>> a judge. They don't have to go to a
judge. They don't have to lay out their
whole case because sometimes you they go
to a judge and they say, "Here's what's
going on. Here's what we have. We want a
a warrant." And the judge goes, "No. not
giving you a warrant. Take um what's his
name? Uh the killer clown uh Gayy
>> Gayy.
>> Gayy. They searched his house. They did
a thorough search and it took them a lot
to to get a judge to sign off. They did
a search and they had to go back to the
judge and say, "We want to search the
house again."
>> [ __ ] judge was like, "No." this went
this it took them several times to go
back over and over and over till they
finally could prove to the judge we have
to do it again and finally he said like
judges say no all the time
>> it doesn't seem like it but
>> no but but because now they know how
what the threshold is but in this case
to look at your bank account they don't
even need a judge so crazy
>> just a the the a district attorney can
say you want to look at his bank account
you think he's a drug dealer yeah
absolutely no problem here's
>> so effectively anybody and no bank is
going to reject a federal subpoena.
>> So,
>> you'd have to be Apple to fight a
[ __ ] a warrant or or a subpoena.
>> So, effectively, we have no privacy. If
the feds want to look into your [ __ ]
they're going to look into it.
>> You know, that that's a g that's a
given. The point is, look at all the
evidence they have. They have the ATM.
They have the girl that said this is the
guy that he was in the vehicle. It's the
same guys that the serial killer owns
it. It's got the same trilobyl. Uh,
>> but keep in mind, they don't have the
murders yet. Well, I guess they do have
they have the bodies with the fibers on
them.
>> Yes. Not all the only one they don't
have is the first girl he killed.
>> They they they catch her.
>> They they find her body two or three
weeks after they arrest him.
>> Right.
>> So, so they've got him in the movie
theater. They've got guys watching him.
They end up they get the tire, the four
tires. They call the judge. They tell
that they they write up a a warrant real
I'm sorry, a warrant for his arrest real
quick. All the explanation. They look
and one or two of these things could be
explained away, but like eight of them,
like five of them, like they're like,
"No, this is definitely the guy." At
least worth arresting and putting him on
trial. So then what they do is when he
when he's walking out of the theater,
they arrest him. And here's the other
thing. What kind of a movie do you think
a guy like this watches?
>> Hang on. What's the date they arrested
him on? I'm a movie buff. I can tell you
what movie he was watching.
>> 1984.
Where? Go up. Go up. November 16th, 84.
He's watching Terminator 1. Done. Done,
son. Terminator 1 or Back to the Future.
>> Chuck Norris. He's watching a Chuck
Norris.
>> Of course, it's Florida. It's the 80s.
Chuck Norris, dude.
>> Chuck Chuck Norris.
>> I was say either that or Sean Claude
Vanam.
>> You know,
>> listen, I I love the Chuck Norris jokes.
>> Oh, Chuck Norris jokes are great.
>> [ __ ] hilarious.
>> God, he's been a punching bag just like
Steven Seagal. God bless him.
>> And they just keep moving forward. Not a
punching bag that you remember all the
jokes, the Chuck Norris jokes.
>> Of course.
>> What are they?
>> I can't remember.
>> One like like it's where they're like
Chuck Norris died 10 years ago, but
death is afraid to tell him.
>> Yeah. All those jokes. Yeah.
>> Classics. Classics.
>> When Chuck Norris was when Chuck Norris
was 13, he gave his father the talk.
[laughter]
>> When he was 18, he had his his parents
moved out. [laughter]
>> I mean, there's just one after another
after another.
>> But it's all funny cuz it's Chuck
Norris.
>> They're hilarious. So this guy, this
loser was at a Chuck Norris movie alone.
This is a movie that you either go with
your buddies with when you're in high
school when you're smoking pot and want
to have a laugh or you go by yourself
cuz you're too embarrassed you're going
to see a Chuck Norris movie boot.
>> He probably visualized thinking if they
try and grab me. I'm going to [ __ ]
I'll fight them all off.
>> Literally, it's going to be like
Roadhouse. I'm gonna [ __ ] or what
what do you call it? First Ninja,
whatever Chuck Norris movie was hot. He
pictured himself with the numchucks and
the [ __ ] n his fat ass. His [ __ ]
girly ass [ __ ] tit having ass.
>> He bitched up immediately and they
cuffed him.
>> And then he would hold on himself.
>> Yeah.
>> Oh, don't do it. Don't tell on yourself.
>> So they grab him. They bring him
downtown. They show him every They show
him all the stuff. Yeah. Does does he
does he does he immediately um uh
>> after his arrest, Long waved his Miranda
rights and was questioned about the
McVey case, then about the string of
unsolved Tampa Bay murders. When shown
photographs of the murder victims, Long
eventually said he needed an needed an
attorney. So, he held on the beginning.
The questioning continued and he
CONFESSED REGARDLESS. GOD, HE PULLED A
CHRIS WATTS, DUDE. He caved,
>> didn't he? He also and we were listening
to that one thing where he called his
wife where his wife his ex-wife at the
time cuz she had left him and she said
but after a few years she's like they
were still friend on friendly terms cuz
they have two kids together they had to
be he called her after he got arrested
>> and said listen I'm the one that's been
murdering all these girls what they said
is true he said tell the kids and my
parents that I died in a car accident
and yeah wild.
>> So he he he was either going to kill
himself or who else?
>> No, I think he just said he did. I just
think back then you back then like your
little kids, they don't know what's
going on. There's no internet.
>> You're going to be in prison forever.
You just hide that from them.
>> Yeah. You could tell your kids like,
"Daddy died in a car accident." And and
what you know, they're they're four and
five. Like they don't know what a
funeral is. They don't know anything.
You tell them that and you're not going
to see them anymore. Oh well. And they'd
probably grow up and it wouldn't be till
the internet was created or you talk to
a family member or something that says,
"No, your dad's in prison,
>> right?" Or he was going to get cooked.
>> He died last week in the electric chair.
He did die in a fire
>> cuz the electric chair malfunctioned.
The guy [ __ ] burned up.
>> So
>> he probably knew that. July 86. He was
So anyways, um, so he caved. He coped to
eight murders in Hillsboro County and
one in Pasco County. So, I think there's
two murders that uh eight are not
accounted for.
>> Because it was 10 deaths.
>> 10 deaths. So, there's No. What do you
mean two? No, there was eight and one.
That's nine. So, there's one death that
he's is unaccounted for. But, I mean, at
this point, do we need another one?
>> Didn't he get the electric chair or
something?
>> He did. So, let me read through kind of
what happens. It's it's interesting. So,
if you go back up, Colobby Long was
convicted in eight of the 10 linked
murders. Okay. So, he was actually
charged uh with 10 homicides. Okay. So
he beat he beat two of them I guess.
>> No, not two of them. What? Oh. Oh, what
is it? What is it?
>> Listen. Listen.
>> There. So there he beat two. So there he
There was eight he was convicted of.
>> Yeah. Look it. Long was convicted in
eight of the 10 linked murders. His
conviction for Virginia Johnston's
murder was later overturned on appeal.
Now Virginia Johnston, he was sentenced
to death on that murder. It got
overturned on appeal, which is not easy
to do. So I I'm kind of mindbggled about
how they did that. And he was never
convicted for Artistis Wick, who was the
black girl, sadly, the only black girl.
And he walks on that murder, you know.
Uh that was the black girl that he shot.
He w he he beat that murder.
>> She was the one she shot.
>> Yep.
>> Okay.
>> Um
but either way, he was sentenced to
death in July of ' 86 specifically for
the murder of Michelle Sims. Now, why
Michelle Sims?
That was his third homicide. Artist.
>> Uh she was the stripper.
>> Yes. One of the strippers. No, no, no.
The the you said the black girl was not
the black girl. The one that
>> Michelle Sims was the one that he
killed. I one that he got sentenced to
death on. I want to know why that one.
Was it especially brutal?
>> Maybe they just had enough more than
enough evidence. Like sometimes the jury
will kind of split the baby, right? Like
they're like, I I feel like he guilty,
but if he's not guilty, let's give him
life just in case. But if it's like 100%
positive, it's it's absolutely there's
no doubt at all. given the death penalty
cuz there's no room for error at that
one.
>> Right. So
>> there's room for error. Maybe they give
him a little less.
>> Does the jury in Florida decide about
the death penalty?
>> Um
>> or is that the judge?
>> What do you Colby? It's a good question.
>> Probably Joe
>> cuz a lot of states
>> in California it's the judge.
>> Yeah, in some states
>> in Oregon I believe it's the jury.
>> In some states the jury actually picks
the the sentence. In Bobby Joe Long's
1986 trial in Florida, 12 member
advisory jury recommended the death
penalty. There you go. 11 to1 vote. So,
I guess it doesn't have to be unanimous
even. Wow.
>> Okay.
>> Um,
>> it's Florida.
>> It's Florida. Dude, you're dying. You're
getting cooked. Florida, you got a 50-50
chance. If it's over like one body and
it's in any way extend aggravated, you
got a decent chance. You got like a you
know what what would you say? 30% 40%
chance of getting cooked. Yeah, it's a
law and order. Well, they don't use it.
They don't use uh old Sparky anymore.
They use
>> They don't use old Sparky. They use the
old [ __ ]
>> the needle.
>> They give you the needle, right? So, uh
he stays on death row for a long [ __ ]
time, though. He's on death row for 20
Hold on. 20 30 34 years. Wow.
>> God, that is forever.
>> Damn.
>> A lot of appeals. That's the problem is
you get so many appeals. Yeah.
>> The other problem is that
>> Oh, that's a problem.
>> Well, people that are innocent. Well,
no, he's not in which there's a lot of
>> That's what I what I was getting at was
the problem is is that you think, "Okay,
well, this guy killed
>> whatever 10 people, got the death
penalty. Why Why does it take so [ __ ]
long?" Because every once in a while
they find some guy, they're like, "Oh,
[ __ ] Wrong guy." And it's like during
that appeal process, they're like, "Oh,
wow. My bad. He didn't do it."
>> Remember that call that call you got to
make? O, we made an [snorts] oopsie.
>> Gee, well, we're going to let you out.
Uh,
>> he's dead. You're in a body bag. No, no,
I'm talking about the people they
convict postumously. They they they find
not guilty after the fact.
>> No. Has that happened?
>> Of course it has.
>> Really?
>> Yeah. And then they you got to be like
you got to call your boss and be like,
"Hey, you're going to get get ready to
write a big ass check."
>> Oh, no. You keep your mouth shut. That's
what you do. It always comes out.
>> He's guilty. He's guilty.
>> It always comes out. Um, Florida
Governor Ron De Santis, he signed uh
Bobby Jong's death warrant on April
23rd, 2019
after almost 34 years on death row. Uh,
the first one that he signed after
taking office. So, Bobby Joe, man, Bobby
Joe [ __ ] tit Bobby Joe Long.
>> No, he had surgery. I got it fixed.
[laughter]
>> I just like calling him that. I I hope
his headstone reads [ __ ] tit Bobby
Long.
>> Yeah, we don't we don't know. We don't
know if he had a micro penis. We don't
know that.
>> We don't know that.
>> Yeah, that's just just Johnny feels like
it. He's
>> I just feel like you got a lot of
estrogen and you have tits. What are the
odds that you got a big old fat hog? I
don't know. Maybe, maybe not.
>> And uh
>> you know, we could ask his wife. His
wife is alive and quite candid. She
answers a lot of questions.
>> Yeah,
>> this is the this is interesting. The
chick I haven't touched on. The chick,
the donut chick became a police officer.
>> Oh, wow. Good for her. Hey,
>> and she was there for the uh
>> for the execution. She was there for the
execution.
>> Donut chick was there for the execution.
>> Oh, you like
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was like the French
Connection.
>> Yeah.
>> Could you see her clicking on the window
going up the window and he looks up?
She's like she takes her tit out.
[laughter]
>> These remind you of something, Bobby?
>> You recognize me?
>> Yeah. Oh, those look like mine.
[snorts]
>> Wasn't that long ago?
>> No, it was not that long ago. May 23rd,
2019, he gets executed by lethal
injection at the Florida State Prison.
He was 65 years old at the time, roughly
35 years after his crime. His last meal,
eaten at a.m. the day of his
execution, was roast beef, bacon, French
fries, and a soda. Sounds delicious. He
was pronounced dead at 700 p.m. and made
no final statement. What would your last
meal be?
>> We had a pretty delicious hamburger. You
know, I don't think it would be like,
dude, I read about this guy. He was so
egregious with what he ordered. It was
like literally like a whole It was like
a supermarket aisle full of food. It was
a whole chicken leg, three hamburgers,
uh, filetmenan, pints of ice cream. It
was so egregious. This was recently,
like in the last 10 years, I remember
reading this. They got rid of the last
meal policy for death row inmates in
that state. Ruined it for everybody,
which is like, by the way, how
everything in prison is ruined. Like all
of your privileges get taken.
>> The inmates ruin anything that anything
that the that the that the prison tries
to do for you, any programs, any
anything they try and give you or help
you in any way, the inmates ruin it.
I've always said that. Well, I was
locked up. I was like that like they
would come out with some new thing and I
would and I would think how I would even
say like I wonder how long it's going to
take these guys to ruin this,
>> right? Or like some stupid rule while
you're like why can't we have this and
this? Oh, cuz one time you can't have
floss because one time 50 years ago some
idiot tried to scale the wall and escape
with floss and that's why you can't have
the stringy floss anymore. You're like
>> [ __ ] dude. But anywh who uh I just
thought that was wild.
>> Right. So, what would your You don't
know what your last meal would be
>> specifically? No, I think I think like a
p No, you know what it would be? It
would be a whole
>> pepperoni pizza from like a delicious
pepperoni pizza.
>> Stop. You have to think logistically,
how do they get it there? Like, it could
be it could be an amazing pizza when
they get it, but by the time you get it,
it could be soggy.
>> No, but see, it's such a good If you get
the right New York pizza, even if it's a
little cold, dude, it's [ __ ]
delicious. I'll get a
>> for dessert, I'm going to get a couple
of Diet Coke co
>> Yeah. Sometimes sometimes uh day old
pizza in the free in the freezer is
better than it's straight out of of the
oven.
>> Yeah. I'm going to get like a side of
like good pasta, maybe some uh uh
boratha, you know, and then a couple of
diet cokes. And then for dessert, o
little tiramisuh.
And then I'm going to have a big wank.
[laughter]
I'm gonna beat my dick like it owes like
I owes me money. [laughter]
Oh my god.
>> Boy, we had to stretch on this one, you
guys. We had to stretch.
>> Time is up. We made it. We made it. I'm
going to go home and pass out.
>> You You going to tell them or am I
telling him?
>> Ladies and gentlemen, Matthew, tell them
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