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Getting to Know Youssef Zalal | Call of Duty, Training with Aljamain, Ready for a Chess Match
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00:00 You know, so I'll get it started here.

00:02 Welcome, welcome to the channel, guys.

00:03 We have the Moroccan devil himself,

00:05 Youssef Zalal, getting ready for the

00:08 main event in Las Vegas against Aljamain

00:10 Sterling. How's that sound, bro?

00:13 Man, it sounds amazing, bro. It sounds

00:14 all the things that

00:16 I put out there. I said I said it last

00:18 year and and to come for actually

00:21 happening it sounds super grateful and

00:24 I'm super happy and and I can't wait to

00:26 to take every moment of that of that

00:28 fight week or this fight week.

00:29 >> How how's it been so far? I know like

00:31 with interviews you hear like oh how's

00:32 fight week been, but like it seems like

00:34 you're like a big manifestor like you

00:36 know putting things out to existence.

00:37 Like how does it feel just soaking those

00:39 things in?

00:41 Bro, it gives you clarity in your in

00:42 mind a little bit, you know. I feel like

00:44 I I I I go hard on myself. I kind of

00:47 like

00:48 overthink a lot of stuff and and stuff

00:51 like that. It's just normal for me.

00:52 That's That's what just happens, but to

00:55 to see it happen it gives a little calm.

00:57 Like I said I said this before in

00:58 interviews like to my brain a little bit

01:00 and obviously makes me grateful and

01:03 enjoy even what I'm doing even more and

01:06 I think that's the biggest thing.

01:07 >> Right. And I've been checking out the

01:08 YouTube. Seems like you're pumping out a

01:09 little more content and videos and

01:11 stuff. How was that process been of you

01:13 you doing that?

01:13 >> Yeah, man, [snorts] it's been it's been

01:15 cool. Like I I've been slacking on it a

01:17 little bit and

01:19 Sianya is is the girl that did all my

01:23 YouTube for this series and then

01:25 yeah, she's just set it up. I I flew

01:27 over here and she's been with me for 4

01:29 weeks and it's been it's been a camp for

01:31 her as well. So it's definitely been

01:33 been a crazy 4 weeks for sure.

01:36 >> Yeah, and that's why I really want to do

01:38 more interviews and stuff like that just

01:40 to show the personality of the fighters.

01:42 Like if people don't know, you know,

01:43 they're watching this for the first time

01:45 getting ready to see this event just you

01:47 know know a little bit more about you. I

01:48 know like you're a fan of Call of Duty.

01:50 So I just want to ask you like what was

01:51 your favorite Call of Duty out of all of

01:53 them?

01:54 Bro, I think it's it's always been

01:57 Warzone. I I I just played Warzone. I I

01:59 never played like big on campaign and

02:02 all that stuff, but I love campaign,

02:03 too, but I think

02:06 I mean Ghosts was a good one. Uh few

02:09 other ones, but I think the Warzone was

02:12 just the only thing I played.

02:13 Crazy part is I haven't played I haven't

02:15 played Call of Duty in like 2 years,

02:16 bro. It's really insane. Well, the peak

02:18 the peak of Warzone was insane, right?

02:20 Everybody was locked up. You're fighting

02:21 Ilia Topuria. You're doing different

02:23 things, you know what I mean?

02:23 >> Yeah, that's the old days right there.

02:25 So uh

02:26 >> Boy, I was staring at that screen for 8

02:28 hours. It was crazy.

02:29 >> Yeah, I mean a lot of people still do,

02:30 but I thought it was kind of more of

02:32 like a like you were into Black Ops or

02:33 Modern Warfare. Those older type of

02:35 multiplayer games, but Warzone

02:36 >> Modern Warfare was a great one. Modern

02:38 Warfare was a great one.

02:38 >> There's some really great ones. Modern

02:40 Warfare 2, Modern Warfare 3, Advanced.

02:42 What is it? I I forget some of the

02:43 There's a lot of them. They come out

02:44 every year, you know what I mean? So

02:46 actually I do want to just like talk

02:47 about your story. Like I said if

02:49 someone's just watching for the first

02:50 time, you know, what got you into mixed

02:52 martial arts as a whole and how did you

02:54 kind of just

02:56 go go along with the process over time?

02:59 God, bro, I never I never wanted to

03:01 fight. I was terrible at fighting. I was

03:04 not really uh

03:08 like a violent guy at all to be honest.

03:10 Like I mean I still hate blood and and

03:12 all that stuff, which is crazy, but

03:15 my mom and my dad decided to put me in

03:19 kickboxing when I was 10 years old and I

03:21 was just doing it just for fun. Like got

03:24 my ass whooped the first uh tournament I

03:26 ever done and

03:28 I was like I like I don't want to do

03:29 this. I was like [ __ ] no, I don't want

03:31 to do this. Like leave leave me alone,

03:32 you know? And then uh

03:34 uh kept doing it. I won after like few

03:37 months in and I was like oh yeah, I

03:39 started getting that dopamine of

03:41 winning, you know? And I was like all

03:42 right, I I started loving this and then

03:45 I remember came to the US in 2009 and I

03:49 think it's like been a year or 2 years

03:50 in here and then my mom reached out to

03:52 my dad and she was like hey, you should

03:54 put him in the into like kickboxing. He

03:56 always loved that and stuff like that

03:57 and and that's the kind of like the

04:00 story that started the MMA journey at 16

04:02 years old when I was in in the US.

04:04 >> So did you feel like it was like forced?

04:06 Like how many times were you training a

04:07 week as a kid? Like was this like a main

04:08 priority or kind of just like a side

04:10 >> Just every day. No, I was just doing

04:11 like not even not even a priority. It

04:13 was literally just like we'd go to

04:15 school. Me and my sister would go to

04:17 school and then come back, eat food, do

04:20 the homework and then like go go get the

04:25 the [snorts] like go kickbox and then

04:26 come back and repeat the next day. I

04:28 think it was like from Monday to Friday.

04:30 Usually it was sometimes like three

04:31 times a week. So it was kind of like

04:32 around that time.

04:33 >> Yeah, you seem like a pretty high energy

04:35 guy just from what I what I could see

04:36 from

04:37 stuff like that.

04:39 How were you as like a kid or like a

04:40 student in school? I'm trying to think

04:42 of like Bro, this is the crazy part. I

04:43 was a very quiet shy kid that this

04:46 people don't understand. That's like it

04:48 was very hard for me to socialize. I was

04:50 not a good socializer. I feel like once

04:53 you knew me, then I I like I was easy,

04:56 you know? I was like that, but I think I

04:59 I became a lot more comfortable with my

05:01 personality when I got older and older

05:03 and then that was like the easiest part

05:05 and I was like I'm people's people, you

05:08 know? It's easier for me to to to

05:10 connect with people and and and not to

05:13 connect with people either. So but it's

05:14 definitely that's when I learned the

05:17 easiest way for me. So getting into the

05:20 UFC like you do have a crazy story once

05:22 you got in. You're out here you're on

05:25 Fight Island with Ilia Topuria. You

05:27 fought

05:28 you fought Ilia on his debut and I just

05:32 wanted to go kind of progress a little

05:33 bit through your career before we go

05:35 into like the future about you know your

05:36 main event and stuff of of how it was

05:38 being in the UFC and then being removed

05:41 and also fighting in like a tournament

05:43 multiple times in one day and then

05:44 coming back to the UFC and going on this

05:46 insane run. Like I want to know how how

05:48 the the emotions were, you know, with

05:50 all the ups and downs of like being a

05:52 UFC fighter, which a lot of people

05:53 probably don't really know behind the

05:55 scenes of like what really goes on with

05:57 that type of stuff.

05:59 Yeah, man, it's it's crazy. So I uh

06:02 I got signed at very young age. I think

06:04 I was like 23. I think I was like the

06:06 sixth youngest fighter in the roster or

06:08 something like that and then uh

06:10 I remember I was like I lost two in a

06:12 row with Alafe and then I was like

06:15 okay, what the hell we're going to do

06:16 next? Blah blah blah. So I was like

06:18 okay, let me go to Morocco. I haven't

06:20 seen my mom for 10 years and that was

06:22 kind of like So I went to Morocco, seen

06:24 my mom and then I was supposed to fight

06:26 down here and then they canceled the

06:28 whole show. So that's when I made it

06:29 like [ __ ] it. I'm just going to go to

06:31 Morocco and just kind of

06:33 see my mom. I haven't seen my mom for 10

06:35 years. So this is going to be fun and

06:36 then uh

06:38 sure enough as soon as I get to Morocco

06:40 I think like a week later they call me.

06:41 They're like hey, they're back. They got

06:43 a TV deal. And that's when I was cutting

06:45 like I was trying to fight at 35. I was

06:47 dropping to 35 after I lost two in a

06:49 row.

06:49 >> Mhm. And then I was like okay and then

06:52 they made it a catchweight. I had my

06:54 flying knee knockout. And then then they

06:58 started talking about UFC and I was like

07:00 what the what the [ __ ] It was a

07:00 catchweight all this and I was like all

07:03 right, like whatever. Sure. Okay. And

07:06 then sure enough uh

07:08 right before COVID I get the call.

07:11 FaceTime from my manager. I was like he

07:12 never FaceTimes me and then I was

07:14 FaceTiming and I was like what the hell?

07:15 And he said we got it and then that's

07:18 when I got signed my debut against

07:20 Austel Lingo and then uh

07:22 yeah, man, I was speechless. The

07:24 emotions, the the hard work I've been

07:26 like dreaming about and and and it was

07:28 it was pretty insane to to even think

07:31 about it. I was like a like I'm actually

07:32 in the UFC and then uh

07:37 yeah, that was kind of like the start up

07:39 for that part. Right. And when when you

07:42 did have that

07:44 say your when you were removed from the

07:46 UFC roster, what what had to change

07:49 within you to be able to realize that

07:51 you still got this in you? I know you

07:52 you did fight in a in a separate

07:54 tournament. It was like a Spartan. What

07:56 was the name of the

07:56 >> Sparta. Yeah, Sparta. Sparta.

07:58 >> Sparta. You fought in a tournament

08:00 grappling, boxing or it was a kickboxing

08:03 >> Boxing, kickboxing, MMA.

08:04 >> Yeah.

08:05 In the same night, which was crazy. And

08:07 this was like how how was it dealing

08:10 with that that type of situation? It

08:12 felt like you know you're you're in the

08:13 UFC. You're over here. You're fighting

08:15 literally in in a in a tournament kind

08:18 of how they did it back in the back in

08:19 the days at Pride. Like how was it kind

08:21 of having that confidence within

08:23 yourself to know that you're still UFC

08:25 level?

08:26 Yeah, man, it was it was pretty crazy.

08:28 So when I got cut it was like

08:31 I didn't know what to do. I was like

08:32 just young and dumb, you know? I was

08:33 like I just didn't know what's going to

08:35 be next. I always been hard working. I

08:37 always been disciplined of of whatever I

08:39 do, whatever I chase. And I remember I

08:42 was just training just training, but

08:44 like mentally I was just like not kind

08:46 of there and I was like okay, what we're

08:47 going to do next? Like what's going on?

08:49 And I got lucky enough my teammate, he's

08:53 a UFC vet as well, was fighting outside

08:55 and the guy beat him and he went in and

08:59 and the guy started like getting

09:00 confident and then that's when I started

09:03 I that's when my first fight out back.

09:05 And I remember just like being there and

09:09 just seeing the difference from the UFC

09:11 to like it was kind of like a

09:14 I don't want to say embarrassed. It was

09:15 more of like

09:17 this is where it all started. Like it

09:18 made me grateful and and like opened up

09:21 my eyes to a lot of things, but I think

09:23 the biggest thing was is finding my

09:25 purpose, you know? And I think that's

09:27 where I really I've been blessed and

09:28 lucky and grateful to happen at a young

09:32 age, not at an old age because I feel

09:34 like if I got cut at an older age, the

09:37 your chances coming back is pretty

09:38 pretty slim. So for me that that was

09:40 kind of like I had that in my pocket and

09:43 and I that's what I was I was grateful

09:45 for and and I went in there and when

09:47 that bell started I was like I knew that

09:50 the pursuit to the road to back to the

09:53 UFC start that day and and that feeling

09:56 was yeah, it was unbelievable and I I

09:58 think when I made that connection it was

10:01 it was over. Sick.

10:02 I mean I I like I like hearing that cuz

10:04 I I really haven't heard kind of the

10:07 those type of of things in in other

10:09 videos and stuff like that and I really

10:10 want to

10:12 talk about your last performance against

10:14 Josh Emmett. I was actually there at

10:15 that event. I was there in person. The

10:17 energy is actually so crazy. I can't

10:19 believe I was actually there at a UFC

10:21 event and we saw you out there armbar

10:23 Josh Josh Emmett. No one has done that

10:26 to Josh Josh Emmett knocks out dudes

10:28 left and right. You're out here and it

10:30 happened really quick. You know, it

10:31 seemed like the crowd wasn't in in it

10:33 for some reason. Yeah.

10:34 >> You're all smiles. You're I feel like

10:36 you're just you just carry yourself

10:37 really well in that moment, you know?

10:39 And you know, how was that experience in

10:41 your in your last fight with that was it

10:42 UFC 320?

10:44 Bro, that was crazy. It was definitely

10:46 one of the craziest

10:48 moments of my life just because

10:52 of

10:54 my mom being there for the first time,

10:55 everyone watching me live. And I had my

10:58 family in there and then just being that

11:01 I like Josh Emmett and stuff like that

11:03 and and yeah, people feel like they were

11:06 not there, but who cares? You know, in

11:08 the end of the day it's like you still

11:10 got to carry yourself who you are.

11:12 Don't need to change yourself just

11:13 because the energy in the room is

11:15 changed or or any of that. So that's

11:17 that I keep the smile going and and

11:19 that's what I'm going to keep doing and

11:20 and that's that meant to me a lot, you

11:23 know what I mean? Just my family and my

11:24 mom specifically my mom just being there

11:27 and and and and I was like, man, if I

11:29 die today, it would be the happiest day

11:31 of my life and and that was kind of like

11:33 where where I was with that. I was like

11:35 just to kind of have that moment with

11:38 them and be like, your son did it. Your

11:41 son

11:42 showed you all your hard work and and

11:44 all your sacrifices. This is what it

11:46 brings you to a T-Mobile Arena in in the

11:49 pay-per-view card and and all this stuff

11:52 and yeah, man, it was it was a blessing

11:54 and

11:55 and I'm grateful. I had

11:57 I got to add that memory in my life and

12:00 it means a lot to me. Awesome. And you

12:02 come from Morocco. I've actually never

12:04 never been. How would you describe

12:05 Morocco to someone who's never been

12:07 there? Like how is it? Is Oh, Morocco is

12:09 fun, bro. It's it's fun. It depends on

12:11 what kind of vibe you want, but there's

12:12 all types of vibes down there, man. The

12:14 food the amazing. The hospitality is is

12:17 insane. Like it's it's it's beyond what

12:20 you can think. So I I think it's just

12:23 the hospitality and just the vibes. I

12:25 think that's the biggest thing and and

12:26 you you're going to have a great time.

12:27 No matter where you go you're going to

12:28 have a great time.

12:29 >> And there's some upcoming talent. We got

12:30 Marwan Rahiki, you know, making his UFC

12:33 debut breaking his other dude's jaw.

12:34 Like how was that? You were there. You

12:35 had a special moment with him. How was

12:37 that?

12:37 >> Yeah, I was there at the Contenders and

12:39 he's fighting again next week.

12:42 Yeah, he's fighting again next week and

12:44 yeah, man, he's he's keeping it rolling.

12:46 So he's

12:48 he's bringing that crazy kickboxing of

12:50 of Moroccans, you know what I mean? That

12:52 that that we we known for. So I I'm I'm

12:55 more of that technical part, but he's

12:57 more of that of that crazy wild part. So

13:00 I I love supporting that kid, man. He's

13:02 I love seeing him change his life and it

13:05 motivates me even more, you know what I

13:06 mean? To go out there and and do my

13:08 thing as well. So it is definitely

13:10 a great thing to have and and great

13:13 thing to bring to the UFC as well.

13:15 Obviously both of us represent Morocco

13:16 and representing to the highest levels

13:18 we can. So this definitely a great

13:21 opportunity for us to keep that flag

13:22 going and to keep it rolling.

13:24 >> For sure. Both of you guys are dogs and

13:25 speaking of technicality, I mean both

13:27 your opponent Aljamain Sterling, former

13:30 champion, very technical himself. Five

13:32 round fight. This is your first five

13:33 round fight. How was it you know,

13:35 preparing for

13:37 a high level chess match? It seems like

13:38 what

13:39 are like the words of what describing

13:41 this type of fight? How was it kind of

13:43 just preparing for this?

13:44 Yeah, man, it's it's like he's got a a

13:46 lot of this sport is mental, you know?

13:48 It's like the mentally you got to

13:50 prepare for this. You got to understand

13:52 your openings just like a chess game.

13:54 Understand all the openings. Understand

13:55 all the the checkmate routes and and

13:58 stuff like that. So but the end of days

13:59 we're going to go out there and fight.

14:01 So that's what's the most the beauty

14:02 about this sport is you can be as as

14:05 smart as you can, but the end of day it

14:06 still comes to violence. So and that's

14:08 the beauty of it. So I'm I'm excited to

14:11 just to have that name and and fight

14:14 that name in in like it's

14:17 man, I'm it's

14:18 it's like the words you can't even like

14:20 I can't even explain it, you know what I

14:21 mean? To to even dream about it as a

14:23 kid, you know what I mean? I was like I

14:24 was an amateur when he was in the UFC.

14:26 So it's it's it's pretty insane to to

14:29 even put that in perspective, you know?

14:31 Right. And you guys used to train with

14:33 each other for he was like getting ready

14:34 for Yeah, I trained as an when I was an

14:36 amateur he came in to Denver. I think he

14:38 was fighting a Sansao or somebody.

14:41 Got my ass whooped. He was whooping my

14:43 ass on the ground, boy.

14:44 >> crazy when you guys get in there like

14:45 That's the right. Submitted me with like

14:47 Anaconda or some [ __ ] I can't even

14:49 remember. I was boy, yeah, he he he he

14:52 [ __ ] me up for sure. And then I was

14:54 like on the feet I was catching him a

14:56 little bit, you know, it's like you

14:57 couldn't had a hard time a little bit,

14:59 but that was that was the young Youssef.

15:00 Right. And then it's different, right?

15:02 So once I mean once the cage doors close

15:04 and you'll you'll he'll probably

15:06 remember that and you'll probably

15:07 remember that too. So I think it adds a

15:08 little bit to the fight and I'm excited

15:11 for it. It is in a little the Apex so

15:13 the cage is a little smaller.

15:15 I did see an interview of his where he

15:17 says he's going to Gamrot style the type

15:19 of fight. Do you feel like that's kind

15:20 of like a chess level

15:22 setup for for the preparation for the

15:24 fight or do you feel like it's just kind

15:25 of what he's he's going for? Look, if if

15:28 he thinks he's Gamrot he thinks he's

15:30 Gamrot. I don't I don't I don't I don't

15:32 need to compare myself to nobody. I uh

15:35 I I do a lot of styles. I I feel like I

15:38 always mix it up and I've been a

15:40 grappling a lot the last few fights, but

15:43 it's going to be interesting I can show

15:44 my striking as well and I'm excited for

15:46 that that puzzle and that chess match.

15:49 Like I said, that's what excites me and

15:50 then for me I look for ways to make it

15:52 as easy as possible. So and that's

15:54 that's what I'm planning on doing on

15:56 Saturday night and and I can't wait for

15:58 that day.

15:58 >> Yep. And on the videos you you you have

16:01 like a post full of words and you have

16:03 like a word representing the year. Can

16:05 we talk about it a little bit cuz I want

16:06 to know more

16:07 how that started and who's kind of like

16:09 idea it was to to do something like

16:10 that. I really So it was actually the

16:11 head coach's idea. He's came out of

16:13 nowhere. He's like, hey, I want you to

16:15 pick

16:17 a word for the year that you can go back

16:19 to and look like reflect on and

16:22 all this stuff. So I was like, all

16:23 right. And we were kind of just talking.

16:27 And I was like I started picking the

16:28 words and

16:29 and every year I I really stuck with the

16:32 word like precision, like be precise,

16:35 execute my whatever I need, my game

16:37 plans and everything. And and now it's

16:40 it's obviously

16:41 this year is dominate. So I want to go

16:43 out there and and make this year my year

16:46 and and really go out there and dominate

16:49 in 2026. I I got to give a shout out to

16:51 my dad cuz he's always every time he

16:53 sees you he's like he's like, that's the

16:54 champ right there. That's the champ. I

16:56 appreciate you.

16:57 Shout out to your dad, my man. Thank you

16:59 for your support. I appreciate you.

17:00 >> shout out cuz he's like, man, this guy a

17:02 lot of people don't know about this guy.

17:04 Honestly, it's like I feel like

17:06 we got we got to show the people. We got

17:07 to cuz you are a very high level and

17:09 like you've been doing this for a very

17:11 long time. So I just want to be able to

17:12 you know, showcase that that type of

17:14 stuff and also share the love too, you

17:15 know. Nah, it's a lot of hard work.

17:17 Thank you guys. Thank you for the

17:18 support. A lot of sacrifice going into

17:20 this and especially getting ready for

17:22 you know, the biggest fight of your

17:23 life, you know, you're chasing

17:25 I think Aljo's ranked number five,

17:26 you're ranked number seven. So you know,

17:28 it's the numbers getting ready for the

17:29 title. You're you kind of gave Diego

17:32 Lopez a layup, you know, after the the

17:34 fight with I did. I [ __ ] up in that

17:36 one so bad. I [ __ ] up in that one so

17:38 bad. I should have been me, bro. It

17:39 should have been me in that Australia,

17:41 but hey, everything happens for a

17:42 reason, man and

17:44 I'm a big believer on that and look at

17:46 it now it's

17:48 it's even a bigger I mean I don't want

17:49 to say bigger opportunity, but it is

17:51 bigger opportunity for me cuz this is my

17:53 first main event and then to get to do

17:55 it and and really go out there and and

17:58 showcase my skills and perform against

18:00 one of the highest level like I said,

18:02 number five in the world. So for me just

18:04 to to have that opportunity I'm super

18:06 grateful and like I said, I I I leave it

18:09 to faith and everything happens for a

18:11 reason. I control what I can control and

18:13 that can uncontrollable is is out there,

18:15 not me.

18:15 >> Now, I got to ask you something very

18:17 important. So the the main event there's

18:18 been this thing circulating online about

18:20 the body posture. Have you seen this?

18:22 Have you seen about the the little Yeah,

18:24 it's my boy JT. It's my boy JT.

18:27 He's he's always done it and he's always

18:30 been right, too. It's crazy. So your

18:32 boy, what what are you what are you

18:33 going to do to prepare to make sure that

18:35 you're you're the one with the best Nah,

18:37 I don't need to prepare nothing,

18:38 brother. I I go in and face off the same

18:40 way I've been facing off. You guys seen

18:42 it every face off and it's going to be

18:44 the same face off you guys are going to

18:46 see and then I'm going to keep doing the

18:47 same thing.

18:48 >> Is there an art to it? Art to the face

18:50 off, would you say?

18:52 Yeah, you I mean for me I just like I

18:54 look at it I'm like, the job is done.

18:56 Now we go we actually go have fun and I

18:59 look at as you and and see what you

19:01 really can bring in, you know? I want to

19:02 see that. The people that think they're

19:04 all like the the the aggressive and all

19:07 this and that. I'm like, okay. Like keep

19:09 that same energy, you know? And that's

19:11 what's excites me about it. Just to kind

19:13 of get that feel of

19:14 we're going to go tomorrow. Yeah, for

19:16 sure. And it seems like a lot of people

19:19 are talking about Aljamain's grappling

19:20 and stuff like that. Of course, he had

19:22 insane insane war against Evloev. There

19:24 was a crazy exchanges going on.

19:28 I would say that his his striking is

19:30 underrated. You have mentioned it on

19:31 other videos before like even that fight

19:33 against Brian Ortega. He did show a

19:35 great, you know, versatility when it

19:38 comes to striking. He was doing a lot of

19:40 spinning attacks, you know, switching

19:41 stances and and you know, being very

19:43 aggressive. So

19:45 what do you you also agree that you

19:47 know, his striking is also a strong

19:48 suit, not just the grappling?

19:50 100%. I think he also has the

19:53 awkwardness that he brings the

19:54 awkwardness when it comes to striking. I

19:56 think that's what makes it difficult. I

19:57 think that's the puzzle like I like I

19:59 was talking about puzzles and stuff like

20:00 that. I think that's the biggest puzzle

20:02 that you have to solve with Aljamain is

20:04 that weirdness and awkwardness because

20:06 once you think you got him in the feet,

20:08 he obviously goes for a takedown right

20:09 away and then he always mixes it up. So

20:11 it's definitely a a weird style to deal

20:15 with. So this is what I'm I'm excited

20:17 about is to kind of have that puzzle and

20:18 feel that puzzle.

20:19 >> Right. So you did mention earlier that

20:21 you were signed up with kickboxing as a

20:23 kid, but you have a very very strong

20:26 finish rate when it comes to

20:27 submissions. When did when did grappling

20:28 and jiu-jitsu become more of like a a

20:31 thing you started?

20:33 Bro, I don't I don't like since I was

20:36 here when I started at 16, I started

20:37 with grappling dumbass whooped like bad

20:40 into like tournaments and stuff like

20:42 that and I don't know. I think I just

20:44 fell in love with the ground. I was like

20:45 I felt like it was easier to to deal

20:48 with the to a lot of people and and

20:51 obviously growing up and watching MMA

20:53 and like you see these wrestlers just

20:55 destroy everybody and then I love when

20:58 it there's that wrestler against a

20:59 jiu-jitsu guy straight grappler guy guy

21:02 and Charles Oliveira and Gamrot, that

21:04 was like a crazy one too. So like

21:06 speaking of Gamrot, you know, and then I

21:08 was like holy [ __ ] like just to see that

21:11 it's like like it motivates me and

21:12 excites me, you know. Did Did you have

21:14 like a favorite grappler you like just

21:16 like a you know, jiu-jitsu guy or some

21:17 guy you uh Charles Oliveira. Charles

21:20 Oliveira was was one of them. He was one

21:22 of the biggest ones I I really loved and

21:25 I remember when I was a kid uh I loved

21:27 Keenan Cornelius. Cornelius? Yeah,

21:30 Cornelius. Man, I have his autograph.

21:32 >> Oh, really? So my coach yeah, my coach

21:35 my old coach uh went to I think it was

21:38 ADCC or something like that or or worlds

21:42 or something I can't remember exactly,

21:44 but Keenan was there and then he always

21:46 loved how I talked about Keenan and he

21:48 just took a piece of paper and then he

21:50 signed it for me. That's it. I mean

21:52 Keenan Cornelius he's like he's very

21:54 funky in the way he he grapples, you

21:56 know. He's he's more of like a ghee guy

21:57 with a with his wrestling and stuff like

21:59 that. I just feel like the you know, the

22:01 jiu-jitsu community so vast and

22:04 I I'm very curious on kind of the the

22:06 grappler that happens in MMA just to see

22:09 what actually works.

22:11 What have you noticed from the training

22:12 room like what actually works in

22:15 a fighting scenario that really works a

22:16 lot just like in ghee or no ghee? Like

22:19 what what's like does not work in a

22:20 fight? What type of techniques?

22:22 >> [sighs]

22:23 >> I mean ghee ghee is like mostly it helps

22:25 you with like being a lot more

22:27 technical, you know, and a lot more

22:28 patient. I think it teaches you a lot

22:30 more patient being technical stuff like

22:32 that, but obviously in the no ghee it

22:34 just teaches you how to like control a

22:36 lot of control a lot more control. So I

22:39 think there's a lot of things that work

22:40 and there's a lot of things not work,

22:41 right? I mean if you're in half guard

22:42 trying to go deep half guard and you get

22:44 elbowed and punched in the face, that's

22:46 a whole different story, you know what I

22:47 mean? So I think it just depends on what

22:50 your style is and what can you bring to

22:51 the table, you know what I mean? So

22:53 there's a lot of things that work and a

22:55 lot of things don't work to be honest.

22:56 >> Yeah, and it seems like there's not a

22:58 lot of people especially right now on

23:00 the roster that kind of had like that

23:01 Ryan Hall level of jiu-jitsu of just

23:03 being very awkward and funky when it

23:05 comes to that.

23:06 Leg locks, boy. Yeah.

23:08 Yeah, those those are grabs your legs,

23:09 good luck.

23:10 >> That's I mean Volkanovski seems like the

23:12 only one that's hitting the leg lock

23:14 pretty consistently. I think he had like

23:15 four in a row. Um I I mean I wish I I

23:18 saw a little bit more. We saw maybe like

23:20 some calf slicers. Charles Oliveira had

23:21 a few calf slicers as well. I think

23:23 there's only like one or two in the UFC.

23:25 Is it only

23:27 I know Charles hit one. I didn't know if

23:28 it was but yeah. I just I just love

23:30 jiu-jitsu. I've been I've been training

23:31 for the last like maybe 3 years and the

23:34 more I train the more I realize like

23:35 bro, these guys are freaking It's fun.

23:37 It's fun. I tell people I was like as

23:39 soon as you pass the

23:41 the the like the hard stage of jiu-jitsu

23:44 once you get comfortable with rolling,

23:46 sweating, getting awkward positions and

23:48 all this and that, it becomes a lot more

23:50 fun. Like you you'll be like holy [ __ ]

23:52 like I can do this to a human being.

23:53 It's it's insane and and that's where

23:56 like I think the dopamine of our crazy

23:59 us humans being crazy and we just love

24:01 that dopamine of just whooping ass. So

24:03 it's like kind of like it feels good. So

24:06 yeah, I think that's like when it once

24:07 once you get to that stage, yeah, you're

24:09 stuck for life. So Yeah. And speaking of

24:11 dopamine, you enjoy cooking. I've been

24:13 I've also noticed that on your YouTube

24:15 channel. What are some favorite dishes

24:17 that you like cooking or what what do

24:18 you like about just cooking in general?

24:22 Bro, I don't know. I think it's like a

24:24 like that's how I show love to people

24:26 and stuff like that for me. I feel like

24:27 I love I love cooking and then it brings

24:30 me like calmness and like

24:32 I don't know. I just I'm in my zone

24:35 whenever I cook. It's like it's fun.

24:36 It's like stressful fun like crazy at

24:39 the same time.

24:40 >> those like food shows like the Oh, bro.

24:42 I stuff like that.

24:43 >> Oh, every every every other day my my

24:46 Instagram, my YouTube, my everything. I

24:50 I used to remember I used to watch

24:52 which I want to do in my life is you

24:54 travel the world and just try the street

24:57 food and like

24:59 all that food stuff and like all that.

25:01 Like that's Keith Floyd in it, right?

25:02 Like he just Yeah, it's like that's like

25:03 kind of my favorite. Like bro, I love I

25:05 love that like

25:07 uh The other one is eating with Phil

25:09 something like that. It's on Netflix.

25:10 It's a good one. But yeah, bro. I love I

25:13 love stuff like that, man. Like I I got

25:15 cooking books. Matt There you go. Here's

25:17 one right here.

25:19 Matthew Mattson He's hilarious.

25:22 Yeah, shout out to my boy, but Yeah,

25:23 man. I don't know if we can stop but

25:25 what are some favorite meals that you

25:26 like cooking up for or even that you

25:28 like to enjoy yourself? Like what are

25:30 your some go-to meals that you like?

25:31 Boy, burgers

25:34 wings, pizza

25:37 Moroccan foods like it's big Moroccan

25:39 food is called seffa. I love seffa.

25:41 Seffa is like my

25:41 >> Okay. What is that?

25:43 What What What is that? How It's like a

25:45 it's like a pasta. Like you can make it

25:48 sweet or savory. So it just depends on

25:49 what you want, but boy, it's

25:52 It's fire. I'll make I'll make my mom

25:54 make one right as soon as I come back.

25:56 Bro, I can't wait. And uh so Volk kind

25:59 of has to worry about you getting the

26:01 belt and the cooking with the YouTube

26:03 channel too, it seems like, you know

26:04 what I mean?

26:06 Yeah, he's he's he's he's ahead of that

26:08 part when it comes to like the YouTube

26:10 and all that stuff. I'm not I'm not

26:11 really good at that stuff, you know, and

26:13 I feel like I should have I should have

26:14 done it a while a while back because

26:16 like I actually love cooking. Like it's

26:17 one of my favorite things in the world,

26:19 I swear. Yeah. But

26:21 yeah, I mean it is what it is. Just

26:22 fighting him is is it's the biggest

26:24 thing it's going to be the biggest story

26:25 of my life. So and I can't I can't wait

26:28 for that day to happen.

26:30 Well, I just wanted to say thank you

26:31 again for you know, hopping on, bro. And

26:33 I I just I'm I'm

26:35 honestly honored to have you. You're

26:37 actually my first UFC guest online.

26:40 Let's go. Let's go.

26:42 >> you're the first one.

26:43 >> memories right here. Let's go, baby.

26:45 >> we're going to be at that that Apex

26:47 event. So we'll be there in person to

26:48 support. Hope to see you out there and

26:51 I'm very honored like to like I said to

26:53 to talk to you on fight week. I know you

26:54 got 100 different things probably going

26:56 on right now. You're locked in and I

26:58 just want to say thank you, man.

27:00 Nah, I appreciate you for having me,

27:01 man. Yeah, of course. Anytime. And thank

27:03 you for having me here and like I said

27:05 it's it's awesome that I'm I'm the first

27:07 one and and we're making history right

27:09 here. So let's get it.

27:10 >> Yes, sir. So

27:12 Mr. Youssef Zalal, see him at the Apex

27:15 main event five rounder. Let's go.

27:18 Let's go, baby. Thank you, my man. I

27:19 appreciate you.

27:20 >> I appreciate you, man. I apologize with

27:22 the the motorcycle and stuff like that.

27:23 Oh Nah, nah, you're good. You're good.

27:25 Say shout out to your dad, dog.

27:27 Tell him tell him soon. My man Jose,

27:29 thank you, my man, for your support. I

27:31 really appreciate you and I can't wait

27:33 to be a champion and I will be a world

27:35 champion. So you get to say to your son

27:37 ask you like see I told you that was the

27:38 champ. And then yeah, man. Thank you for

27:40 your support. I appreciate it. I can't

27:42 wait.

27:42 >> That's awesome, bro. I really appreciate

27:44 that. Honestly, you love that. You love

27:46 that. You love that. So I got you.

27:48 >> Thank you. Thank you, man. And like I

27:49 said, we'll see we'll see you out there

27:51 in Vegas, man. Best of luck.

27:52 >> Yes, sir. Let's get it. Let's get it.

27:54 >> Yep.

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