Is the Sports Card Hobby Being Pumped Too Much? Opening Boxes w/ NHL Rookies, Mailbag & More! Hockey Cards Gongshow Podcast ·
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· 2026-08-12
00:00 - Overview of the Episode ๐
Discussion on whether the hobby is being overhyped.
Opening of boxes featuring NHL rookies shared.
Baba Louie reveals his top five favorite PC cards.
02:55 - Recap from Last Episode ๐
Phil confirms he recorded the last episode without pants (Donald Ducking).
They reminisce about the lively atmosphere in the studio after a brief break.
04:54 - Ottawa Card Show Update ๐
Phil shares insights from attending the Ottawa Card Show:
Busy day with a split between Hockey and Pokรฉmon card enthusiasts.
Shout-out to Coleman Ontario Cards for being a prominent seller.
05:54 - Upcoming Features ๐ฎ
Announcement of the return of Gro Reloaded with a new checklist forthcoming.
Mention of card details and sales in Saskatoon next month.
11:02 - Get to Know Your Hall of Famers ๐
Segment begins profiling Hall of Fame hockey players starting from 1982.
Provides historical context and notable events from that year, including societal challenges and cultural milestones.
15:10 - Technological Progress & Pop Culture Milestones ๐ฅ
Innovative Technology: Discussion on feelings of a "scary" technological edge, likening it to a Terminator-like atmosphere.
1982 Nostalgia: Notable events from 1982 including:
Sony releasing the first commercial compact disc players.
The unprecedented success of Michael Jackson's "Thriller", becoming the best-selling album ever.
The continued popularity of TV show Dallas and various significant television debuts (e.g., Cheers, Knight Rider).
19:18 - Major Film Releases of 1982 ๐ฌ
The success of E.T. the Extraterrestrial, surpassing Star Wars as the highest-grossing film ever.
Rocky III introduced Mr. T, while Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan was noted as a beloved entry in the series.
Polltergeist, Blade Runner, and Tootsie among other hits, showcasing a year with several impactful releases.
20:44 - Rugged Achievements in Sports ๐
Wayne Gretzky's Records: Scored an NHL record of 92 goals in one season and became the first player to reach 200 points in a season.
Super Bowl XVI: The San Francisco 49ers claimed their first title with Joe Montana as MVP.
NCAA Championship: Michael Jordan hit a game-winning jump shot for North Carolina, foreshadowing his legendary career.
MLB World Series: The St. Louis Cardinals triumphed over the Milwaukee Brewers.
Ricky Henderson stole a record 130 bases, solidifying his place in baseball history during the 1982 season.
Other notable results included the LA Lakers winning the NBA Championship and significant achievements in boxing and tennis.
23:45 - Norm Alman's Hockey Legacy ๐ฅ
Overview of Norm Alman, his impressive career and statistics in the NHL.
Emphasized his consistency: 12 consecutive 20-goal seasons and leading the Detroit Red Wings in goals multiple times.
Despite multiple playoff appearances, he is noted for never winning the Stanley Cup.
30:18 - Norm Alman's NHL Impact ๐
The discussion highlights Norm Almana's exceptional performance during the 1964-65 season, where he scored 42 goals and topped the NHL in scoring.
Almana's playoff record of two goals in five seconds showcases his remarkable skill against Glenn Hall, a legendary goalie.
32:26 - Playoff Contributions and Legacy ๐
Almana consistently led in postseason scoring, making a strong mark during Detroit's 1966 run with 15 points in 12 games.
Despite individual success, Almana faced frustration, having reached the Stanley Cup final five times without a win.
36:34 - Trade to Toronto and Continued Success ๐
Almana was traded to Toronto in 1968, continuing to perform at a high level with 77 points the following season.
His move gave Toronto a top-line center who effectively contributed despite being in his early 30s.
37:50 - Career Highlights and Longevity โณ
Almana's career includes a record of 490 goals and 1,229 points over 1,410 games.
Even at 35, he set a career-high in points, demonstrating his ability to adapt and excel through changing eras.
39:30 - Final Thoughts on Almanaโs Legacy โจ
Almana's contributions are often overshadowed by bigger hockey personalities, yet he is regarded by peers as one of hockey's best centers.
His story reflects resilience and an impactful career that bridges eras in the NHL.
45:32 - Introduction to the Event ๐
A Chicago Blackhawks player mentions the excitement of being in the venue and overcoming the challenge of pronouncing French names.
The atmosphere is lively and filled with a large crowd, which was unexpected.
46:12 - Childhood Memories and Card Collecting ๐
Discussion about childhood experiences collecting hockey cards; one player recalls using a binder to organize Canucks cards.
They express nostalgia about past interactions with hockey culture during their youth.
48:01 - Experience at the Rookie Showcase ๐
Players reflect on their time at the rookie showcase, emphasizing it as a great experience for bonding without competitive pressure.
They describe the special feeling of wearing an NHL jersey for the first time.
49:09 - Released Hockey Card Series ๐ฆ
Introduction to Upper Deck's 2025 26 extended series and the significance of young guns cards.
The follow-up clarifies how collections are organized and shared among fans and collectors.
55:04 - Excitement to Play with Veterans ๐ค
Players express enthusiasm about playing against veterans they admired growing up, such as Patrick Kane and Nick Cuch.
The camaraderie in training and learning from experienced players is highlighted as a valuable part of their development.
1:01:09 - Summer Skate Sessions โ๏ธ
Coaches and Fun: Discussion about summer activities with a coach and playing games together.
Signing Cards: Acknowledgment of signing around 2,000 cards, with humorous comments on the fatigue from signing.
1:02:28 - Hockey Card Experiences ๐
Involvement with Young Guns: Sharing experiences of interacting with young talent and their passion for cards.
Personal Engagement: A mention of Andrew and Trevor's enthusiasm during the card-opening session.
1:03:58 - Slap Sharks Auction Promotion ๐
Card Auction Details: Promotion of Slap Sharksโ weekly auctions and encouragement to participate.
Selling Cards: Urging collectors to utilize Slap Sharks for selling their cards easily.
1:06:00 - Bounty for Cards ๐ฐ
Mavericks Bounty: Announcement of the Dallas Mavericks offering a unique bounty for specific player cards as a marketing effort.
PR Strategy: Insight into how teams use bounties to engage the community and enhance visibility.
1:07:57 - Hobby Market Trends ๐
Concerns About the Market: Discussion on fears of a potential market bubble in card collecting.
Opportunity Amidst Change: Emphasizing that even a market dip could provide chances for collectors to acquire cards at reduced prices.
1:16:15 - Community Resilience ๐ช
Discussion on economic downturns in the hobby.
Emphasis on the strength and commitment of true collectors.
Collectors can either gain value or buy more at lower prices, highlighting a no-lose situation.
1:17:03 - Growth Through Challenges ๐ฑ
Personal growth discussed during difficult times, like the stay-at-home phase.
Importance of mental maturity and adapting to shifts in the hobby.
Example of a significant card purchase illustrating evolving collector strategies.
1:19:31 - Adjusting Collector Habits ๐
Conversation on adjusting spending in the hobby due to rising card prices.
Collectors express feelings towards being labeled as "true collectors" and importance of self-definition.
Noting how economic conditions push collectors to adapt their purchasing strategies.
1:21:10 - Reality of Market Trends ๐
Exploration of market expectations post-boom and frustrations when prices escalate.
Importance of being cautious regarding market shifts and the content consumed.
Urgency to focus on adjusting collecting behaviors amidst fluctuations.
1:28:10 - Future of the Hobby ๐ฎ
Reflection on potential future crashes and their impacts on collectors.
Discussion on financial realities and need for collectors to adapt.
Highlighting that many collectors may have to reassess their investment strategies in the market.
1:31:13 - Introduction to Top Five Cards ๐
Louis introduces the show and will present his current favorite five cards.
They will also compare these with his favorites from 18 months ago.
1:31:34 - Lou's Selection Process ๐ค
Louis reflects on the difficulty in selecting his cards, mentioning he changed his mind frequently.
He humorously states he should have stuck with his initial choices.
1:34:01 - Favorite Current Card: Madano Patch Auto ๐
Louis showcases his first card, a 2021 Stature Patch Auto of Madano.
He describes it as a beautiful card and highlights its value.
1:38:15 - Gordy Howe Auto Card ๐
He presents a Gordy Howe Auto as one of his top favorites, sharing its personal significance.
Considers it one of his most cherished cards regardless of its market price.
1:41:20 - Final Remarks and Reflection ๐ฌ
The discussion segues into the reaction from those who have hit big cards and what to do next.
The panel reflects on changing preferences in card collections over time, emphasizing the importance of personal connection to the cards.
1:46:18 - Skepticism is Key ๐ค
Be cautious: Dot every "i" and cross every "t."
Examine every red flag โ stay skeptical until confident in the deal.
1:46:48 - Selling Choices: Auction vs. Private Sale ๐ท๏ธ
Two options: Auction (higher value potential, but risk of disappointment) or private sale (more control, but potential loss of profit).
Auctions can create competitive bidding, while private sales can be stress-free.
1:48:15 - Negotiations in Auctions ๐ผ
Choose the right auction company to maximize your card's exposure.
Key terms like hammer price and commissions can be negotiated.
1:50:13 - Marketing and Guarantees ๐
Discuss how the auction house plans to market the card.
Some auction companies offer cash advances or guaranteed amounts to ensure seller confidence.
1:55:56 - Best Practices & Advice ๐
Always leverage contacts and network for advice.
Hold onto the card until 100% confident in the deal; do not rush due diligence to avoid scams.
2:01:28 - Excitement for Upcoming Products ๐ฆ
Discussion on the new Ice product configuration and the anticipation for its updated designs.
Participants express hope that the product will surpass recent disappointments.
2:02:21 - Gong Show Mailbag Introduction ๐ฌ
Transition into the mailbag segment of the show with a humorous tone.
The first question centers around the impact of a significant sale on player card markets.
2:03:08 - Market Dynamics Discussion ๐
Participants debate whether a recent record sale could signify a market trend or be an outlier.
Emphasis on cautious dealer reactions based on singular sales.
2:05:47 - Concern Over TCG's Influence ๐พ
A participant expresses frustration about kids discarding hockey cards in favor of Pokemon cards at events.
Commentary on how TCG (Trading Card Games) are gaining popularity at sports card shows.
2:11:24 - Rookie Seasons and Game-Worn Memorabilia ๐ฝ
An insightful question about whether second-season memorabilia could be marketed as containing rookie season materials.
Participants discuss the potential marketing oversight by Upper Deck regarding rookie season game-worn swatches.
2:16:34 - Personal Experience in Card Collecting ๐ด
Discusses the importance of quantity when collecting cards.
Shares a recent notable pull of a gold outburst card by a regular collector rather than a professional breaker.
2:18:00 - Criticism of Upper Deck ๐จ
Contention about whether Upper Deck is harming collectors.
Acknowledges market forces impacting the hobby but defends Upper Deck's role in the landscape.
2:21:00 - Hobby Market Dynamics ๐
Emphasizes that if the hobby declines, collectors can still find opportunities.
Comments on fluctuations in demand and provides advice for collectors during down markets.
2:26:00 - Concerns About Market Size ๐
Discusses the evolving nature of the hobby with increased popularity and rising prices.
Reflects on whether the growth brings advantages or diminishes the experience for collectors.
2:30:00 - Card Production Issues โ ๏ธ
Conversations about the timing and release of rookie cards and how they are sometimes issued incorrectly.
Shares light-hearted banter about the complexities and errors of card production.
2:31:38 - Card Purchase Discussion ๐
Venting about card prices: The speaker discusses their feelings about a specific card that costs over $5,000, which led them to refrain from buying more Maurice Rousard autographs.
Offer made: They made a $2,500 offer over a year ago which expired, but a friend managed to buy it for $2,000 and is willing to sell it to them.
2:32:45 - Gratefulness for a Card ๐
Acquisition acknowledged: The speaker expresses gratitude for acquiring a coveted autograph card. Itโs noted as an essential piece for their collection.
Concerns about autograph quality: Thereโs a mention of the autograph being shaky, linked to the time period just before the player's passing.
2:34:04 - Show and Tell of Card Purchases ๐ด
Introduction of new cards: The speaker shares multiple card pickups, including a limited logo card of Luke Robitaille that they felt they overpaid for.
Discussion of unique card features: Highlights unique aspects of each card and their preferences in terms of design and autograph placement.
2:36:00 - Discussion of a Major Purchase ๐ฐ
Highlighting a big expense: The speaker mentions spending $1,550 on a special Alex Ovechkin card, illustrating their commitment to valuable acquisitions.
Vendor negotiation: They reflect on the vendor's pricing strategy and their experience in obtaining the card.
2:42:22 - Closing and Support Call to Action ๐ข
Final remarks on the episode: The speaker wraps up with a call for audience support through ratings and donations.
Podcast promotion: Encourages listeners to engage with their social media and Patreon for more content related to hockey cards.
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