For years, I've been fascinated by the
idea that there are vast hidden
underground cities in America. Not small
caves. We're talking sprawling cities
like the size of Phoenix, intentionally
built and hidden in plain sight. Massive
cities miles under the ground in
Colorado, Alabama, Nevada, and more.
Insiders have confirmed to us here at
Redacted sophisticated military
infrastructure, interconnected
transportation systems, UFO reverse
engineering programs, all of it, jump
rooms, and more. Katherine Austin Fitz
let the cat out of the bag when she
appeared on Tucker Carlson's show,
explaining that $21 trillion had been
stolen by these black budget programs to
build over 170 of these vast underground
cities. So the question is where's all
this money going? And one of the things
I've looked at in the process of looking
at where all this money is going is the
underground base and city infrastructure
and transportation system that's been
built. And
>> I'm sorry.
>> Yes. So so we have built an
extraordinary number of underground
bases and supposedly transportation
systems. Some of these are a record of
some of these are documented as part of
the national security infrastructure. I
think there are many more. So um
>> in the United States
>> in the United States and all over the
world.
>> We've spoken to experts here at Redacted
about these structures and cities. And
we put together this comprehensive
collection of interviews about what's
really hidden underneath America
including Washington DC. I hope you'll
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Imagine standing on an ordinary street
in America, cars passing by, people
walking their dogs. A normal day by all
standards. But what if I told you that
beneath your feet, sometimes thousands
of feet below, exist entire cities,
underground complexes that could house
thousands of people, equipped with
hospitals, power plants, food supplies
to last for years. Cities hidden from
the public, designed to survive anything
from nuclear war to natural disasters.
Some are known, some are classified, and
some might not exist at all. Hey
everyone, I'm Clayton Morris. Thank you
so much for subscribing. You know, I've
been wanting to do this story for a long
time. I've been fascinated about
America's underground cities since
childhood. The idea that there would be
massive, [music] huge, I mean, I'm
talking like New York City level cities
underground somewhere [music] that we
don't even know about. But even growing
up in the state of Pennsylvania, hearing
the stories about Centriia, [music]
which was a city that's burning from
underneath because the [music] the coal
vein that ran through, a fire broke out,
and it's impossible to ever put it out.
This [music] city will just collapse in
utter ruin. People that had homes there
in the 1950s and60s just finding out
that they can't live there anymore
because the entire city is on fire, but
not from above, underneath. So, I've
loved and been fascinated by America's
hidden underground cities since
childhood. And the truth is, America has
been digging for decades, creating a
subterranean world that most citizens
will never see. From proven government
bunkers to controversial deep
underground military bases, we're going
deeper than ever before. Stay with me
for the next 30 minutes. What you learn
by the end might change how you see the
ground beneath your feet.
>> [music]
>> Welcome to the Redacted Files, where we
explore the stories hidden between fact
and fiction. And today, we're going
underground. America's fascination with
subterranean construction began in
earnest during the Cold War. As nuclear
tensions escalated with the Soviet
Union, the United States government
realized that survival might depend on
going deep, very deep. What started as
simple fallout shelters evolved into
sophisticated underground complexes
designed to ensure government continuity
even after a devastating attack. But as
declassified documents reveal more about
these underground facilities, they raise
as many questions as they answer. How
many exist? What's their true purpose?
And are there connections between them
that we're not being told about? So,
let's dig into the evidence. Let's start
with what we know for certain. America
has several massive underground
facilities that have been acknowledged
by the government. Perhaps the most
famous is the North American Aerospace
Defense Command or NORAD, which is
buried inside Cheyenne Mountain in
Colorado. Constructed in the 1960s, this
underground complex was designed to
withstand a direct nuclear strike, and
it's built in the middle of the country
on purpose. The facility consists of 15
three-story buildings mounted on springs
that would absorb the shock of a nuclear
blast. These buildings sit inside a
massive cavern carved from solid
granite. During the height of the Cold
War, over 1,800 personnel worked inside
the mountain on a daily basis. Can you
imagine inside of a mountain? 1,800
people monitoring for potential Soviet
attacks. That's what they did all day
long. While NORAD's operations have
partially relocated to Peterson Air
Force Base, the Cheyenne Mountain
Complex remains operational as an
alternative command center, ready to
activate in moments of crisis. Less than
30 m from Washington DC sits another
underground marvel, the Raven Rock
Mountain Complex, sometimes called Site
R, or the Underground Pentagon. Built
inside a mountain near the Pennsylvania
Maryland border, this 650,000
square foot facility serves as an
emergency operations center for the
Department of Defense. Now, construction
began in earnest back in 1951. And like
the NORAD complex, it was designed to
withstand a nuclear apocalypse, so only
the elites would survive. You and I
would be vaporized. Now, inside
Ravenrock are all the necessities for
running military operations,
communication centers, conference rooms,
and a self-contained power system. The
facility can support about 1,400 people
for an extended period of time, allowing
military leadership to maintain command
and control even if Washington DC is
totally destroyed. Though many details
remain classified, we know that
Ravenrock continues to be maintained and
upgraded as part of America's continuity
of government plans. In the case that
President of the United States and the
entire cabinet is wiped away, who would
run things? Ah, it would be the
military. Perhaps even more critical to
government survival is Mount Weather
Emergency Operations Center in Virginia.
This underground complex would serve as
the evacuation site for the highest
level of civilian and military officials
in case of a national disaster who would
house the president, house the Supreme
Court and other key leadership. Mount
Weather is operated by FEMA, the Federal
Emergency Management Agency, and
features underground offices, has full
dormitories, a full hospital, and above
ground, the 434 acre facility includes
training areas, a fire station, and even
an entire police force. What's
particularly interesting about Mount
Weather is how it's designed to function
as a genuine underground city. It has
reservoirs for fresh water, power plant
with multiple backup generators,
advanced air filtration systems. There
are even dormitories that could house
hundreds of officials. And during the
9/11 attacks, guess what? Many
congressional leaders were evacuated to
Mount Weather, demonstrating its
continued importance in emergency
planning. One lesserk known facility is
the Greenbryer Bunker in West Virginia,
a place that I know well. I spent a lot
of time in West Virginia as a young
reporter in Bluefield, West Virginia.
And for decades, this massive bunker lay
hidden beneath the luxurious Greenbryer
Resort, unknown to the public until it
was exposed by the Washington Post in
1992. It was built during the Eisenhower
administration and its 112,000 square
foot facility was intended to house all
535 members of Congress in the event of
a nuclear war. Perhaps most fascinating
was its cover. The facility was hidden
right in plain sight. And that's my
point. How many of these exist that are
sitting in plain sight? It was designed
and disguised as an exhibition hall and
maintenance area for the resort.
Government staff posed as TV repairmen,
regularly maintaining the bunker's
equipment while pretending to be
servicing the hotel's televisions. After
its exposure, the bunker was
decommissioned and is now open for
tours. one of the few such facilities
accessible to the public. These known
facilities represent just the tip of the
iceberg. We all know about these
declassified documents suggest dozens of
similar installations were constructed
across the United States, many of which
remain operational and classified.
What's particularly noteworthy is how
these aren't merely bunkers. They're
fully functioning underground cities
designed for long-term occupation and
governance. The question is how many
more exist that we have no idea about?
If underground cities exist, then
logically there must be ways to reach
them quickly, especially in emergencies.
This brings us to one of the most
persistent claims about America's
underground infrastructure. the secret
subway systems that are connecting
important government facilities all
across the United States, never having
to jump on the interstate highway system
and sit in traffic. We know for certain
that Washington DC has an official
underground transportation system that's
used by government officials. The Senate
subway system connects the Capitol
building with the Senate office
buildings, allowing lawmakers to move
quickly between locations without going
above ground, dealing with us reporters
asking tough questions. This system has
been in existence since 1909 and has
been gradually expanded and modernized.
What's more intriguing is the rumored
deeper system, sometimes called the
tunnel, that allegedly connects the
White House, the capital, and various
government agencies with escape routes
leading out of the city. While officials
have never fully confirmed these tunnels
existence, former government employees
have occasionally referenced them. For
instance, during the Cold War, plans
were certainly drafted for emergency
evacuation routes. It's reasonable to
assume some were constructed.
One partially confirmed underground
transport system is the one beneath the
US capital building complex. Now, beyond
the known subway system, security
protocols include underground evacuation
routes. And after the 9/11 attacks,
additional security measures were
implemented, including improved
underground connections between these
buildings. Now, these tunnels serve both
practical daily functions and emergency
escape purposes. More controversial,
however, are the claims about a vast
underground mag lev train network that
connects various deep underground
military bases across the country. Yes,
a magnetic levitating train that moves
at supersonic speeds, just like the ones
in China that are above ground that get
all the press and fanfare that can
travel nearly as fast as a Boeing 757.
According to these theories, the United
States government has developed
high-speed underground trains capable of
traveling hundreds of miles hour through
vacuum tunnels. These would
theoretically allow for rapid deployment
of personnel between facilities spread
across the continent. Now, while no
evidence proves the existence of such a
network, there are some interesting
facts to consider. The US government has
funded research into these
transportation advanced technologies,
including mag lev systems. Patents exist
for various underground high-speed
transportation concepts. Additionally,
tunnel boring technology has advanced
significantly in recent decades. But
even look at these old photos. The
tunnel boring air force machines. Why
does the United States Air Force need
tunnel boring machines? Air Force
tunnels. Hm.
Makes no sense, does it? Well, making
the construction of such networks would
be far more feasible than ever before by
using these types of more advanced
equipment. I mean, these photos are
decades old. Now, some former military
personnel have actually come forward and
actually claimed knowledge of these
systems. Their accounts, though, of
course, remain unverifiable unless I'm
able to climb down there myself and see
it. Philip Schneider, who claimed to be
a former geological engineer engaged in
constructing underground bases across
the United States, became notorious for
his lectures describing an extensive
network of underground facilities
connected by mag lev trains. Now, before
his controversial death in 1996 was
ruled a suicide, though some dispute
this. How many times have we heard that
story? Schneider alleged that this
subway network could transport people
between facilities at speeds up to 1,500
miles an hour. While Schneider's more
extreme claims lack corroboration,
the concept of connecting underground
facilities makes logical sense, right?
During a national emergency, rapid and
secure transportation between command
centers would be crucial. The question
isn't whether underground transportation
networks exist. We know they do, but
rather their extent and their
sophistication. How large are they?
Interestingly, some of these underground
transportation concepts may be moving
into the public sphere. Elon Musk's
Boring Company aims to create networks
of underground tunnels for high-speed
transportation. While presented as a
private venture, some speculate that it
could be building on existing government
research or technology. Whether there's
any connection remains speculative, but
the technological overlap is worth
noting. And it's worth also pointing out
that Elon Musk is America's basically
biggest defense contractor. Take SpaceX
for crying out loud. Look at Starlink,
the Boring Company. Makes a lot of
sense. Another documented underground
transportation system exists beneath
Denver International Airport, though its
purpose has generated considerable
controversy. I had the opportunity to
meet a whistleblower who worked at
Antarctica's South Pole station and he
said, "Clayton, are you ever curious
about what sits beneath Denver's
International Airport? It's a vast, vast
underground city." I said, "You got to
be kidding me. I live not too far from
the airport." He said, "Oh, yeah. It's
very convenient cover to have trucks
going in and out. Oh, they're just there
for the airport." when in fact they're
there to support this massive
underground city. The airport's
automated baggage system runs through a
complex network of underground tunnels.
What makes this interesting is the
airport was built with an unusually
large amount of underground space, much
more than seemed necessary for its
stated purposes at the time. Why were
they doing so much digging? What did
they need down there? This combined with
strange murals and other unusual
features at the airport, in fact,
satanic symbols. It's fueled a lot of
theories about its possible connection
to a larger underground network. Now, we
venture into more controversial
territory. Deep underground military
bases, often abbreviated as dums,
dumbbs.
These are massive military installations
buried hundreds, sometimes thousands of
feet below the surface. And unlike the
acknowledged facilities we discussed
earlier, the full extent of the dumb
network remains largely classified if it
exists as described. What we do know is
that the US military has constructed
numerous underground facilities. A 1992
Pentagon report acknowledged the
existence of at least 32 deep
underground facilities in the United
States with others overseas. The report
noted that these facilities were built
to withstand nuclear attacks and house
sensitive operations. However, it
provided few specifics about their
locations or their functions. Doulce
Base in New Mexico is perhaps the most
notorious alleged dumb site. According
to theories, it's a multi-level
underground facility that's jointly
operated by humans and
extraterrestrials.
These claims originated largely with
Paul Benowitz, a businessman, UFO
researcher, famous [snorts] famous man,
Paul Benowitz. He claimed to have
intercepted electronic communications
from the base in the late 1970s. The
theories were further developed by Phil
Schneider who claimed to have helped
construct a portion of the facility
himself. While there's no definitive
evidence that Dulce Base exists as
described, the area does have some
interesting characteristics. It's
relatively close to Los Alamos National
Laboratory, which plays a key role in
nuclear research. The region also has
experienced numerous cattle mutilations,
UFO sightings over the decades. The
Native Americans who live nearby the
base regularly see weird craft exiting
the mountain. However, these could be
just coincidental or have conventional
explanations. Like, these are all US
military craft that travel in
unbelievable ways using
anti-gravitational
capabilities that you and I don't even
know about, but the US military does.
Maybe it's that Area 51 in Nevada, while
famous for different reasons, of course,
also reportedly contains extensive
underground facilities. Former employees
have described elevators leading to
multiple subterranean levels. Given the
sensitive nature of the aircraft that's
tested there at Area 51, underground
hangers and workshops would make
strategic sense, allowing aircraft to be
developed away from satellite
observation or spy planes flying over to
see that you're building an SR71
Blackbird. What lends some credibility
to the concept of dums is the
acknowledged existence of the waste
isolation pilot plant WIPP near
Carlsbad, New Mexico. This Department of
Energy facility is buried 2150 ft
underground in a salt formation serves
as a repository for radioactive waste.
Now the facility demonstrates the
government's capability to construct and
maintain large deep underground
installations. Another factor supporting
the possibility of extensive underground
facilities is the government's
continuity of operations COOP planning.
Now, these plans ensure that the
government can continue functioning
during emergencies.
Documents released through the Freedom
of Information Act requests confirm that
extensive underground facilities form a
key part of these continuity plans.
However, many details of course remain
classified for national security
reasons. In 1989, Washington Post
article titled Doomsday Project
described a shadow government that would
operate from secure bunkers during a
national emergency. The article
mentioned a network of approximately 100
underground facilities across the
country designed to house different
government agencies. The extent of this
network has never been fully disclosed.
Of course, the technology required to
build dums certainly exists. The US
military private contractors have
developed advanced tunnel boring
machines, TBMs, that are capable of
cutting through solid rock at impressive
rates. These machines can create tunnels
up to 40 ft in diameter, like the ones I
showed you before from the United States
Air Force. What's particularly
interesting is that some patents for
these machines include methods for
melting rock, forming it into tunnel
walls, leaving no excavated material to
be removed at all, potentially allowing
for more secretive construction. What
are you going to do with all of this
granite that you're pulling out of the
ground? Oh, you're not going to use it
in countertops in luxury homes? No,
you're just going to melt it down and
form the walls like glass. One
compelling argument for the existence of
dums comes from the black budget
allocations. The US government
acknowledges spending billions on
classified projects each year. In 1997,
the Department of Defense admitted to
having a $59 billion black budget for
classified programs. More recent
estimates suggest this figure has grown
substantially. That was how many years
ago? Could some of this money be funding
the construction and maintenance of
underground facilities? Oh, yeah. It's
certainly possible. Former government
officials have occasionally made
statements suggesting extensive
underground facilities exist. In a 1995
interview, Richard Solder claimed that
there are 131 deep underground military
bases in the United States. They've been
building these 131 bases day and night,
unceasingly since the early 1940s. The
strategic value of underground
facilities is undeniable. They offer
protection from surveillance, from air
strikes, nuclear attacks, even public
oversight. From a military perspective,
having such facilities makes perfect
sense. The question is how extensive
they really are. Beyond military
installations, America has another
category of underground developments,
civilian underground infrastructure, and
repurposed spaces that form hidden
cities beneath our urban centers. New
York City's underground exemplifies this
perfectly. Beneath the bustling streets
lies a complex world of subway tunnels,
maintenance passages, abandoned
stations. The infamous Freedom Tunnel
was named that after a graffiti artist
housed an underground homeless community
for years before and cleared out in the
1990s. The tunnel running beneath
Riverside Park on Manhattan's Upper West
Side became a legendary example of how
underground spaces can be reclaimed by
those seeking to live off the grid. Even
more fascinating is the network of
tunnels beneath New York City's Grand
Central Terminal. These include the
secret of track 61, which connected
directly to the Waldorf Histori Hotel
and was reportedly used by Franklin
Delanor Roosevelt to hide his polio from
the public when traveling to the city.
This private railway track included an
elevator large enough for Roosevelt's
presidential car, allowing him to be
transported directly from the train to
the hotel without being seen publicly.
Incredible. Similar underground networks
exist in Chicago, where freight tunnels
constructed in the early 20th century
created a 60-mile underground
transportation system. Though officially
abandoned, urban explorers report that
sections remain accessible and have been
repurposed for various unofficial uses
over the decades. In Seattle, the
underground city there presents a unique
case. After the Great Seattle fire in
1889, the city was rebuilt one level
higher to address flooding problems,
leaving the original street level to
become a network of underground
passages. Today, parts of this
underground city have been restored and
offer tours. Other sections, though,
remain largely forgotten and closed to
the public. Portland, Oregon, features
the infamous Shanghai tunnels, the
underground passages allegedly used to
kidnap men for forced labor on ships in
the late 19th and early 20th centuries.
The same thing in Savannah, Georgia. The
hidden underground areas and layers used
by pirates to ferry people off out into
the waters. In Portland, though,
historians are still debating the extent
of shanghaiing that occurred there. The
tunnels themselves exist and connected
the basement of numerous businesses to
the waterfront. Cold War preparations
also created numerous civilian
underground shelters. Many government
buildings, schools, and hospitals were
equipped with fallout shelters designed
to protect the population during a
nuclear attack. While most have been
repurposed or abandoned, some remain
intact, forgotten relics of an era that
was defined by the constant threat of
nuclear annihilation. Maybe more
relevant now than even back then. More
recently, wealthy preppers and
survivalists have created their own
underground dwellings. The survival
condo project in Kansas converted a
decommissioned Atlas missile silo into
luxury underground condominiums with
prices starting at 1.5 million. These
units offer protection from nuclear
attacks, pandemics, other catastrophes.
The facility includes amenities like a
pool, movie theater, 5-year food supply,
essentially creating a self-contained
underground city for the wealthy.
Underground spaces have also been
repurposed for data storage. The
SpringNet Underground in Springfield,
Missouri, uses former limestone mines to
house servers that are held in a
naturally climate controlled secure
environment. Similar facilities exist
across the country, taking advantage of
the natural protection offered by
subsurface locations. Now, what makes
these civilian underground developments
interesting is how they blur the line
between acknowledged infrastructure and
hidden spaces. Many began as official
projects, but were later, you know,
abandoned or repurposed. Others operate
sort of in a gray area, neither fully
public nor completely secret. Together,
they form a subterranean layer of
American cities that most citizens never
see, despite living directly above them,
walking right on top of them. Some
researchers suggest connections between
these civilian tunnels and government
underground systems, particularly in
major cities like Washington DC and New
York. While such connections would make
strategic sense for emergency evacuation
purposes, definitive evidence remains
elusive. However, recently, Katherine
Austin Fitz, who's a former government
official, speaking on the record to
Tucker Carlson during an interview
dropped a bombshell about all of the
trillions of dollars in government
spending. Where did all of this money
go? She claims that it was used to build
a vast network of massive underground
cities across the United States. One of
the things I've looked at is the
underground base and city infrastructure
and transportation system that's been
built.
>> What is certain though is that America's
underground spaces represent a parallel
world, one that exists literally beneath
our feet, but remains largely invisible
to daily life. Whether repurposed for
commerce, shelter, or more clandestine
purposes, these spaces remind us that
the ground we walk on has depth and
history that often goes unnoticed. As we
return to the surface, the question
remains, just how extensive is America's
underground world. We know with
certainty that massive government
facilities exist beneath mountains and
fields across the country. We've
confirmed underground transportation
networks from simple subway systems to
more elaborate tunnel complexes. The
existence of deep military installations
seems probable, though their full extent
and purposes remain shrouded in secrecy.
What is clear is that for decades,
America has been digging, creating an
underground infrastructure designed to
ensure survival, maintain [music]
security, and perhaps serve other
purposes we can only speculate about.
The next time you walk down an ordinary
street, remember what might lie
thousands of feet below. An entire world
of tunnels, bunkers, and underground
cities. Some acknowledged, some
classified, [music] some perhaps merely
rumored. Are these facilities simply
prudent national security [music]
measures? Or do they suggest preparation
for catastrophes the public hasn't been
[music] told about just yet? The truth,
as always, lies somewhere in the
documentation, the testimonies, and
perhaps in the Earth itself. If you
found this journey underground
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Files for more explorations of the
[music] hidden world around us. Until
next time, keep questioning, guys, cuz
the truth is out there, sometimes buried
deep [music] beneath the surface. Do you
think there are other massive
um like what we saw at the South Pole
Station that they're building, 10 times
the size of it is now? Is there one in
Nevada? Is there one in Hawaii? Is there
one anywhere else in the United States
other than South Pole Station?
>> There can't possibly be anything under
the Denver International Airport.
>> Oh, don't say that.
>> Really? [laughter]
>> Well, I know so many people talk about
the Denver area and Colorado Springs.
>> They'll eventually they'll eventually
stop taking dirt out of the ground from
the Denver International Airport, right?
>> Is that what they're doing?
>> Have they ever stopped from the time
they started building?
>> That's true. I don't think they have.
And I I've heard about the massive like
tunnel complexes underneath there.
>> Yeah,
>> it's a perfect cover.
>> It's a perfect cover to have a massive
airport where people are coming in
constantly. There's trucks. There's all
sorts of You can just go to work that
day.
>> That airport is one of the furthest
airports from the city that it supports
I've ever seen.
>> It's quite a drive from Denver to the
Denver airport. Are are you s you you
sound like this is an informed this is
this like an informed an informed
opinion.
>> I I'm in the trades. I mean I kind of
understand infrastructure proximities,
you know, um how challenging it is to
instead of building your airport next to
where your infrastructure is. Oh, let's
just move it way out there because
that's easier. So, Denver International
Airport. I've heard of massive cave
structures, underground tunnels and
systems that massive huge cities,
underground cities. Have you heard
similar?
>> I've absolutely heard that. I I don't
doubt that at all. I mean, we've all
seen these. You
>> the United States Air Force tunnel
boring equipment. I mean, because that
makes sense.
>> Yeah. Um, let's put a we'll drop a
picture in here of that because I
remember when I was years ago, 10, 15
years ago, when I first saw these giant
Air Force boring machines,
>> why the hell does the Air Force
need massive tunneling equipment?
>> And then Elon Musk launches the Boring
Company, get right, to build massive
tunnel infrastructure under. So what's
going on under underneath the United
States to me is one of the most
fascinating stories right now and I want
to dive more deeply into it. Besides the
Denver International Airport, where do
you think we have we have the Air Force
Training Academy in Colorado Springs?
>> Mhm. uh Colorado, but other spots that
might be interest Long Island seems to
have a rich history of subduge, right?
>> Um Brook Haven National Labs,
Shoram, Long Island, uh had the world's
only privatelyowned nuclear power plant,
>> Dulce, Dulce, New Mexico.
>> There you go. I mean, there's there's so
many lists of places that are extremely
questionable. One of the things that
I've, you know, learned in my experience
is that a lot of these things are in
plain sight and we just don't know. Um,
Long Island was very much the hub of the
manufacturing of the military-industrial
equipment for the wartime periods and
they had Nike nuclear tipped missiles
all over Long Island
next to people's homes. Did they tell
the locals that's what it was?
>> Of course. Yeah. Of course.
>> No. They said it's a it's a Air National
Guard reserve training facility.
>> Yeah.
>> Wow.
>> So these these things I mean people have
to realize like if you want to have a
you know super secret stuff and you want
to staff it, you can't move it out into
the middle of nowhere for your enemy to
start tracking oh here we have 300
people that go out into the middle of
nowhere every day and then go back.
>> Right. So you have to cover all of these
things. because this is engineering um
plausible deniability for both the um
population and your enemy.
>> So it makes sense then, right? They
maybe learned their lesson with Area 51.
All these people have to go out there on
a regular basis. They leave from Las
Vegas and those those secretive
aircraft. People are tracking them,
following them. That's a problem, right?
>> And they have to live there on base for
long time periods a long time. Have it
at the Denver International Airport
where no one's going to notice. Yeah.
People come and go. If you put up
barbwire fences and signs that say super
secret facility and you have armed
guards working in the perimeter, you've
just shined a spotlight. Yeah.
>> On the place you're trying to hide.
>> You're blowing my mind.
>> Next time I go to the Denver
International Airport, I'm going to be
asking looking for some secret doors and
why there.
>> Well, it's no secret Americans love
sushi, my daughters included. And over
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guest says that everyone is missing the
true intention of Trump locking down
Washington DC, trying to federalize the
police force there and take things over,
trying to eradicate crime. He says, "Pay
attention to Trump's words. In
yesterday's press relief press release,
Trump said, quote, I'm announcing a
historic action to rescue our nation's
capital from crime, bloodshed, bedum,
and squalor, and worse. This is
Liberation Day in DC and we're going to
take our capital back." End quote. Dr.
Michael Salah says, "Everyone is missing
the real story here. There is a hidden
intent in his press briefing to liberate
Washington DC from the satanic forces
that have run DC since its
establishment. And Dr. Solace says it
all has to do with the Freemasons that
build Washington DC and were infiltrated
by dark forces. So to help educate us on
this topic and dive deep on this, so
many people have been asking, bring up
the Masons on a regular basis in our
comments feed. Dr. Michael Salah do uh
Michael, it's great to see you again. We
haven't seen you in quite a while.
Welcome back to the show.
>> Thank you. Great to be back.
>> So [clears throat] can you explain as we
look at this unfinish unfinished
pentagram here on the show um on this
map? Can you explain to me like first of
all what are we looking at here and why
do you think that this is a deeper move
by President Trump to stop these demonic
forces in Washington DC?
Well, that dates back to the design of
Washington DC by a French architect
Pierre Lfont who was a Freemason.
And the Freemasons understood the power
of symbols, occult symbols such as the
pentagram, which is a way of being able
to uh create a power vortex uh for
various ceremonies. And so as far as the
Freemasons associated with George
Washington and Thomas Jefferson were
concerned, they thought that this
Freemason symbol would kind of like help
establish or promote their idea of the
new Atlantis, that America was the new
Atlantis. It would be a place of high
technology, abundance, and show the way
for the rest of the planet. But what
happened was that the the Freemasons
were infiltrated at the higher levels.
And this is something that I've been
able to confirm that Freemasonry today
at the 33 degree level um those that
achieve that rank typically have very
positive views about Freemasonry and
helping establish uh their their goals,
their positive goals. But at that level,
33rd degree, they are introduced to the
deeper, darker mysteries and they swear
allegiance to these satanic forces. And
these satanic forces are [snorts]
connected to extraterrestrial life that
many Freemasons at that higher level
believe uh who it was that established
the ruling bloodline families going all
the way back to Samria, Babylon, and so
forth. And so these ruling bloodline
families, they believe that they are the
direct descendants of the the gods or
the anunnaki, the fallen angels,
whatever you want to call them, and that
those who are worthy of the truth will
be initiated into those truths. So
that's how they establish secret
societies. But it is something that is
segregated from the from the most
practitioners of Freemasonry who know
nothing about this up until the 33
degree level. And if they progress
beyond that, then they're initiated into
um the the kind of satanic practices
that are what enables a lot of these
ruling bloodline families to get their
power and to control uh the rest of the
world.
you know, a lot of people in our chat
room are saying you're spot on about
this and there's some really deep dark
forces here with this. Um, so and a lot
of people in our chat room saying that
this even goes much higher than sort of
like the the levels that we know about
in Freemasonry. There's like a whole
other section of levels inside of this.
Maybe you could talk a little bit about
that. A number of people in our chat
room are saying that.
>> Yes. Well, those that progress beyond
the 33 uh degree level, uh they are
initiated into all of these occult
programs dealing with uh
extraterrestrial technology, ancient uh
builder race technologies and even being
a part of these meetings with ex
visiting extraterrestrials. Uh there are
both positive and negative
extraterrestrials. uh the US government
in the 1950s under the Eisenhower
administration made agreements with some
of these extraterrestrial races and they
have joint projects. So people who are
initiated at those higher Freemasonry
levels are part of those classified uh
programs. people call them unagnowledged
special access programs and and they
will go wherever there's a a crashed
UFO, wherever an extraterrestrial is
captured, wherever they find some
ancient technology such as in Antarctica
and so forth, there'll always be a
highle freemason there above the 33
degree level who will essentially kind
of like take control of the situation
and and and you have u the military
which is merit-based
obviously they are also having a very
keen interest in all of these
technologies
and these extraterrestrials that are
part of how uh the the planet is
governed. And so there's a power
struggle between these high level
Freemasons above 33 degree [snorts] and
the the military the rank and file
military who want to take control of
these advanced technologies for the
betterment of society. [snorts] And and
so this power struggle, I think, is
what's reflected in what's happening in
Washington DC. Now, I think uh Trump
federalizing police in Washington DC has
much more to do than just dealing with
criminals, petty crime, homeless
vagrants, and so forth in Washington DC.
It's this is the move that the white
hats have been waiting for to finally
take out the uh the satanic cults that
are in charge of Washington DC and of
these deep dark projects uh that are all
about control of these advanced
extraterrestrial technologies. and and
the pentagram that you showed earlier on
is vividly demonstrates how this was
from the very beginning envisaged by
these higher level Freemasons. Now you
know many critics will say well you know
that's not a pentagram that's something
else because you don't see it joined you
see the the line uh from uh that one of
the lines doesn't extend across uh to
complete the pentagram. Well, actually
in occult circles, this is described as
an incomplete or broken pentagram. Now,
a pentagram normally is something that
you can use to protect yourself from
satanic forces. But the broken pentagram
is an invitation for satanic forces to
come out. And so, you have that
pentagram immediately above Washington
DC. And I think this is what the intent
was from the very beginning that at some
point Washington DC uh would really be
subverted from its goal of or the the
original intent was to establish the new
Atlantis, something positive and hopeful
for all humanity. But instead through
the broken uh pentagram and the
establishment of these satanic groups in
Washington DC that control the power
elite there, it became the center for
this very aggressive American
imperialism which we have witnessed all
around the world. But I think uh Donald
Trump, he's working with these very
positive white hat forces, the Earth
Alliance, to take Washington DC back and
to remove the satanic groups from the
power they hold. And and they are very
very dark and very powerful, but they
can be removed from power.
>> Well, we know how deeply dark these
satanic forces are in Washington DC. I
mean, just hear the horror stories,
these parties, all sorts of really
disgusting stuff that happens in
Washington DC. whether it's I mean on
the child trafficking side or just these
weird these weird parties. I mean it's
really deeply disturbing. So based on
your research, I mean you you know so
many of these insiders who've been
speaking to members of Congress and
other members, do you believe that that
Trump is on the side of the White House
hats with this and that there is an
active movement to try to maybe
excommunicate some of these satanic
forces in DC?
>> Yeah, totally. I mean, we know now that
Trump's been briefed about this positive
extraterrestrial alliance called the
Galactic Federation. We know that from
Professor Hed. David Grush has also said
that um Trump was briefed. And we also
know from a an Italian newspaper,
Espresso, that said that Trump was
briefed about Project Preserve Destiny.
And [snorts]
Trump was told by the Galactic
Federation that in order for uh
disclosure to happen, in order for all
of these advanced technologies to be
released and the extraterrestrials to
show themselves, that global peace has
to be established and and then that's
going to enable these advanced
technologies to be released. And so to
establish global peace uh he has to
remove the u the satanic deep state
which is behind all the wars and the imp
imperialism that's been happening uh
under the American flag for for many
many decades. And that's what he's
trying to do now with all these peace
agreements. He's meeting with uh
President Putin on Friday in Alaska. All
all of that is deeply symbolic about
this white hat effort. this effort by
Christians uh leaders that believe in uh
Christian values and in a positive
future for for America and for the
planet to come together and to remove
these very dark Satanists from power
wherever they are. So, I think that's
really what's what's happening right now
in in Washington DC. And in order for
Trump to succeed and and move not just
the United States, but the whole planet
into this future where we have open
contact, then he has to bring about
world peace. He has to remove the deep
state satanist from power. And and he's
using all the resources he has as
president, as commander-in-chief to do
that. And I think that's what's really
happening in Washington DC right now.
>> Well, I think people need to open their
eyes to this if for for people watching
this for the first time and this is like
new information to them. Well, what's
really hidden underneath Washington DC
for years have been whispers of vast
tunnel systems underneath the capital.
Not just for the government use, of
course, but for something darker. Now,
new reports suggest President Trump's
recent moves from federalizing DC's
Metro Police to pressuring the
Smithsonian to release long hidden
artifacts um may be part of a much
bigger operation. And uh so what is the
police move actually covering here for
federal forces raiding an underground
network tied to the deep state? Satanic
cults in DC, even extraterrestrial
allies. Yes. So all of the deep state
forces that Trump is up against. We
wanted to talk about this today with Dr.
Michael Salah, author, researcher, one
of the leading voices on exopolitics to
help make us make sense of all of this.
Uh Dr. welcome back to the show. Great
to see you.
>> Thanks for having me, Clay.
>> My pleasure. Now, I think you know
what's interesting is that um last week
when we started covering this story,
there's been new revelations that have
come out since then in many ways, I
think vindicating some of what you were
saying. and so many viewers, I mean, we
had thousands of people saying, "Thank
you for covering this story because it
doesn't get any attention." So, can you
talk about what some of these new
revelations are that we might have been
learning about with the Smithsonian and
uh like the Scottish right temple, etc.?
>> Sure. Well, this Smith Smithsonian that
received an executive order or was the
subject of an executive order from
President Trump where there would be an
effort to pressure the Smithsonian to
release much more of its holdings to be
reviewed for release. and and that comes
on top of what has been really decades
of complaints that the Smithsonian
rather than revealing uh America's uh
history, its ancient history and the the
true level of civilization here has been
suppressing and hiding it. And so there
have been stories dating all the way
back to the 1800s that the Smithsonian
once it is called out to investigate an
archaeological finding of any
significance, whether we're talking
about the discovery of giant skeletons,
whether we're talking about the
discovery of Egyptian artifacts in the
Grand Canyon and anything to do with
with say the uh the mounds uh the the
mounds in Ohio that contain supposedly
technologies that go back to the
Atlantan era that the Smithsonian rather
than getting its hands on these
artifacts and reviewing them for public
release just locks them away in in
vaults. And the place where it's been
doing that is in this kind of vast
underground tunnel tunnel system in the
Washington DC area. And it the tunnel
system uh dates all the way back uh to
the early 1800s
uh when Washington DC was uh being
designed as the nation's capital. So
they needed a tunnel system so that
members of uh Congress and the executive
branch could get around quickly if they
needed to. Of course you had the British
invasion in 1812. So that only
accelerated things. And you you also had
um a vast aqueduct system that also was
responsible for a lot of the underground
tunneling in Washington DC. On top of
that, uh you also had a underground
trolley system that began as early as
1862
and it was until 18 1962 that the
trolley system was finally put to an
end. And over the course of that
century, they eventually started to
build underground tunnels for the
trolleys. Now, that was abandoned in
1962.
And in uh late60s and early '7s, they
started to build uh Washington's metro
system. But the tunnels that were used
for the trolley, the underground tunnels
are still there. They're unused. And um
and so you know you just have this vast
network of tunnels whether they're built
by private entities whether they're
built by federal entities or government
agencies that are throughout the
Washington DC area
>> and deeply deeply dark stuff that's
happening here as one of our viewers
here on the screen says you know deeply
being used for like child trafficking
really demonic things uh down here in
these tunnels and we've had we've heard
from different whistleblowers on this
somebody in the chat was just saying
Freemasonry connected to the inverted
pentagram um on this as well. Let me put
maybe we can put that inverted pentagram
um up here on the screen and take a look
at it. Maybe you can recap for our
audience that maybe missed this last
week. What are we seeing here and why is
this deeply troubling?
>> Well, the uh pentagram was something
that was part of the architectural
design for Washington DC. uh Pierre
Lanton was a Freemason and and what you
see there is an incomplete pentagram and
what critics say well because it's not a
complete pentagram then it could not
have been designed for cult purposes but
actually a broken pentagram has even
more significance because while a
pentagon while a pentagram a complete
pentagram is a symbol of protection the
broken pentagram that you see there
that's a symbol that welcomes the
satanic forces. And what's very
interesting is there's I think I sent
you an image that shows the compass at
the bottom of the uh of the pentagram.
And that compass that extends to the uh
US Congress and that shows that the
compass being the symbol of Freemasonry
that that was connected to this
pentagram. There you go. And and what's
very interesting here, of course, is
that uh many of the founding fathers
were Freemasons. And I think the vast
majority of them uh really did have uh
noble intentions and wanted to make uh
Washington DC a kind of beacon of light
and a replacement for Atlantis, like the
new Atlantis. But there were very uh
deep dark hidden forces that came in and
infiltrated. And so you see that in the
different lodges in the Washington DC
area and and there's the the temple
house of the temple on 16th Street just
near Dupont Circle and I think I sent
you an image of that as well. And that
that is the headquarters of Scottish
right Freemasonry 33 degree in the
United States or a very important uh
element of that. And underneath that is
supposedly according to a book titled
Weird America and other sources that
site it uh remnants of an ancient
Atlantean tunnel system. Now, I mean,
that sounds pretty far-fetched that you
could actually have something as ancient
as that, but in fact, I mean, I've been
doing work on uh the underground tunnel
system in America, and what typically
has been happening, especially when it
comes to uh the development of deep
underground military bases, is that they
have found a a much older tunneling
system that dates back to the Atlantean
era. and they either kind of repurpose
that or they they build uh alongside
that. And so I think it's very feasible
that underneath uh Washington DC in
addition to this kind of like humanmade
layer of of tunnels uh whether they're
made for the federal government or for
Congress or for the aqueduct system or
for the trolley car system that you
could have something much much older an
Atlantean tunnel system. And that's
where things get really very interesting
because I think that's where you get
probably the deepest darkest rituals
being conducted by those that u make it
their their life or their job to explore
and research these tunnels for satanic
practices because what the what the
Satanists do and and there is an element
of Freemasonry and it's very important
to to to say that not all Freemasonry is
satanic. It's only those that are above
the 33 degree level that are introduced
into this kind of like uh satanic
element where uh they're told that uh
humans are descendants of gods and and
they rely on blood sacrifice and that
they can invoke demons or these
draconian reptilians. And so, uh, these
temples or these, um, lodges are often
built on areas that have some kind of
energy vortex. And so, that's why they
actually do a lot of these practices
like satanic rituals at these energy
vortexes because they know that that's
how you can control um, an area or even
an entire planet. And that brings us
back to the the whole inverted pentagram
because within there at the different
nodes you're going to have uh rituals
being conducted in underground locations
that that really ensure that this kind
of dark satanic element uh predominates
in Washington.
Well, I sat down last night, had a
multi-our discussion with Timothy
Alberino, who's a researcher, and we
talked about the giants, and he was
telling me, and I didn't realize this,
that in the Smithsonian's own documents,
they say that they have giant skeletal
remains of giants, giant bone fragments,
jawbones that are bigger than, you know,
bigger than my entire head in the
Smithsonian. So, I'm hoping as part of
this audit, members of Congress will
sort of piggyback maybe on this
start to put forth some pressure to
release all of it. Like what sort of
demonic stuff are they keeping there?
What sort of stuff do they have under
Washington DC? Um I think that Trump is
on to something with this and I think
you're in many ways vindicated for your
position on this. Thank you for being
brave and talking out about this. Most
of our audience is saying
thank you for talking about this.
There's a few people that are like this
is what I can't even believe this. This
sounds crazy. This sounds out of this
sounds like total BS. But, you know,
some people are take a little bit longer
to be awakened by this. Well, yet more
evidence is growing by the day that the
federalization of Washington DC uh Metro
Police by President Trump does in fact
involve cleaning out the underground
satanic networks as well as petty crime
and homelessness on the streets. Turns
out that as we've reported on this over
the past couple of months here on the
show that these underground satanic
tunnels underground underneath
Washington DC and actually members of
the House of Representatives have
actually called these out and they've
lost their jobs for telling the truth
about what's actually down here, what's
actually going on underneath DC. It
turns out these satanic networks would
comprise public officials, compromise
public officials by using these
underground SRA rituals, thereby
impacting the performance of federal
institutions, which basically
constitutes treason and Trump knows
about it and the inner circle knows
about it. That's why they're doing this.
And by the way, the mayor of DC just
admitted that crime has now plummeted in
DC thanks to the federalization of the
National Guard troops that are in
Washington DC. crime has all but
disappeared thanks to the US military
being there. It's kind of crazy when you
think about it. Dr. Michael Salah was
the man that broke the story originally.
He broke it wide open a number of weeks
ago here on our show and now has more
evidence more evidence is emerging that
he was right. In fact, doctor, welcome
back to the show. Great to see you.
>> Oh, it sounds like you're muted, Doc.
We good now?
>> Yes. I I was muted so bad.
>> Oh, my pleasure. My pleasure. Um, we
always have our guests mute their
microphones before they join us because
we have other guests live on the show.
So, they might hear like a cat in the
background or a dog in the background.
So, so that was that's us asking you to
mute. So, thank you. Um, but I do want
to bring your attention to this new
headline that just came out about
military lawyers handling civilian
crimes in Washington DC. And I think to
your point, this is further evidence
that this is exactly you cannot rely on
the Satanists that are running
Washington DC to prosecute their own,
can you? You need the military to
basically step in in Washington and now
handle the case load from these people.
Well, that's right. Yes. I mean what we
have here is a situation where these
satanic networks have been operating for
decades comprom compromising uh
officials from all branches of
government including the judiciary which
is very very important because that
means when it comes to the arrest of
Satanists that are apprehended you in
these underground enclaves which can
extend as far as 10 miles underground
uh in Washington DC and and elsewhere
around the country that when it comes to
trying these officials, you can't do it
through the the normal court system
because a lot of these judges are
compromised themselves. So the normal
courts cannot operate and in such a
situation that's where the military
courts come in. And also another uh
consideration for why these Satanists
being arrested are being subjected to
some kind of military judicial process
is that the punishment
uh in the civilian courts for sedition
or treason is a maximum of 20 years
imprisonment and a fine or both. Whereas
in the UCMJ, the Uniform Code of
Military Justice, uh people that are
convicted of sedition, treason are
sentenced to death. And now normally the
the um US MJ they that does not apply to
civilians unless martial law has been
declared or as in the situation
currently in the United States when
normal judicial courts can't function.
Now of course they can function uh at a
at a superficial level in dealing with
petty crime and so forth. Uh but as far
as trying individuals that have been
compromised, which includes members of
the judiciary, then I think you can make
a very strong case that that civilian
courts should not be trolling these
because some of the judges themselves
may be compromised and may be in fact
under investigation. So I think that's
why the the military courts are being
secretly used convened under some kind
of [snorts] special tribunal and which
is why I believe these JAG officers have
been summoned to Washington DC to begin
helping in the prosecution of so-called
petty crime. But I think that's just a
cover for these deeper satanic crimes.
>> That's amazing. And this isn't being
reported. I mean, you have JAG officers
coming into Washington DC to handle the
amount of crime that they're having to
now handle outside of the like basically
the Satanists who are running Washington
DC. This is an incredible story. PJ
Picket in our chat just said what's
scary about this, but it's like they're
they're they're like sort of putting it
right in our faces like they're sort of
flaunting this. It's like kind of out
there in the open in in a lot of ways.
And now we actually have the military
there to stop it.
Well, yes, the military uh I think the
only branch uh where you you have uh
officials running it who have been
thoroughly screened and vetted and have
no real ties to these satanic networks.
And so that's why you know there is this
ongoing campaign to clean out uh the
satanic networks not just in the
Washington DC area but also other areas
uh in the United States where uh you you
have the same networks operating
compromising public officials and and
the judiciary too. So really the
civilian courts are not the way to
prosecute Satanists who have been
apprehended and the the military uh
tribunals that have been I believe
secretly set up. That's the way to
proceed. and and really in terms of um
uh giving out justice, you I think the
the justice can only be achieved through
these very stringent penalties that you
find in the uh uniform code of military
justice rather than in civilian courts.
>> And we've been talking about this in
terms of the Masonic order, right? And
maybe you can educate our audience a
little bit if they're new to this or
they missed your appearance on our show
a couple of weeks ago. Maybe you can lay
out sort of the pentagram description
and um and and describe uh just how
insidious this is.
>> Sure. Yes. Well, the the pent we have an
inverted pentagram in the design of
Washington DC, but it's a broken
pentagram, not a intact pentagram, and
that actually has more occult
significance because it's an invitation
for the devil or Satan to come in. And
so in the middle of that pentagram, uh
it it's a major access is on 16th
Street, Washington DC, and it goes
directly from the White House right up
16th Street. And and it runs through
something called the House of the
Temple, which is the center for uh
Scottish right Freemasonry [snorts] in
in the United States, or at least one of
the most important centers of
Freemasonry. Now, Freemasonry itself has
what is publicly known to be 33 degree
levels. So, a mason can progress through
doing public works and good deeds all
the way up to the 33rd degree. and and
they can be, as far as they know, uh
part of an organization that promotes
philanthropy
um and various projects to kind of
uplift humanity, deal with poverty and
uh and and help the society evolve in a
positive direction. But at the 33 degree
level, that's where there is a secret
initiation into higher levels if you
pass a test. And and the test is
Essentially, the Freemason is presented
a copy of the Bible and if they
desecrate it as they are asked to do in
some way, whether spit on it or
something else, then they are
told that they have passed the test and
that they can now proceed to higher
orders. And in those higher orders, 34,
35 and and so forth, uh they are told
about the secret extraterrestrial
origins of the bloodline ruling
families. Uh told about the history of
of giants, uh the secrets of the
anti-gravity free energy technologies
and so forth. Um if that freemason
chooses not to spit on the Bible and and
says, "No, I I worship this." Then they
told you've passed. Congratulations.
you're a Freemason, 33 degree Freemason
for life. And and so they go away
thinking that well they are at the
highest level of Freemasonry, but it's
not.
>> So yeah, the highest levels are demonic.
That's crazy. That's crazy to think
about. Hopefully this message is getting
out there and people are aware that if
they go they get to the 33 and they they
don't spit on the Bible that they're
hitting a wall basically. Um they're not
going to go past that. Can you talk
about because for some people this might
who don't know what's going on here and
the Satanism in Washington DC it's it's
it's large and it's been well documented
as you pointed out um to me offline you
and I were chatting you said uh this was
well documented by journalist John Damp
in his book called the Franklin Coverup.
What happened here? People might not
even know this story that happened in
Washington DC.
>> Sure. Well, uh, John Deamp, he was a
journalist and also a state senator for
Nebraska
and and he uncovered evidence, extensive
evidence that uh, young boys from
Boytown, Nebraska were being taken to
Washington DC and that they were being
used in these kind of like honeypot
operations
against sitting uh, members of Congress
or high level public officials that
whatever happened between those young
boys and those public officials were
taped and that uh those officials were
then u manipulated or blackmailed into
doing whatever it was that these
Satanists wanted. Now these boys were
were basically well trained through SRRA
practices and and that is that they were
often subjected to a
ceremony where one of them was
essentially um cannibalized, killed and
cannibalized and they were commanded to
eat the heart and so forth and different
body parts and and and that's how they
would um be conditioned to do everything
that was asked of them when they were in
these kind of honeypot operations
against members of Congress. So John
Deamp documented this. I mean there was
clear evidence that this was happening
and no one really kind of pursued what
he uncovered.
It just [laughter]
I mean it's just like Washington DC
isn't it? I mean, we've had, you know,
we've had HHS whistleblowers and others,
um, like Tara Rodous and others calling
out how the Biden administration was
facilitating the massive sex trafficking
of children. They were literally
facilitating it at the Department of
Homeland Security. And we had
whistleblowers in the federal government
calling it out and in front of Congress.
And what happened? Nothing. The Biden
administration did nothing about it.
Fortunately, the Trump administration
and at least under the FBI and Cash
Patel, they've been going after these
sex traffickers by the rounding them up
by the hundreds. So, I'm least, yeah,
I'm I'm hopeful anyway about that. Um,
that's unbelievable. That's called the
Franklin Coverup. If anyone wants to
read read that book by John Deamp. Um,
any final thoughts on this, Dr. Solo?
Like, you know, when you talk about how
are we going to see any of these people,
these like sort of perp walked, you
know, in front of court and proceedings,
these people who have been leading a lot
of these Satanist rituals and and trying
to compromise members of Congress and
others.
>> Well, you know, that's a very
interesting question. I I don't know. I
think that the U white hats, the earth
militaries uh forces that are involved
in these kinds of operations and as far
as I know from my sources, they are
being helped by positive
extraterrestrials as well because you
know the Satanists themselves they they
directly worship these negative
extraterrestrials. Some call them Draco
reptilians. And so the the white hats,
they understand the the depth of the
kind of like corruption and how long
it's been going on for. So they're
cleaning it out. So right now,
Washington DC is is the target. I
believe that as they move forward and
succeed in cleaning out Washington DC
that they will start doing the same in
other major cities and we'll probably
see the same pattern. National Guard uh
judge advocate generals coming in to to
help the district attorney of of that
area to deal with the the so-called
petty crime. But but really behind the
scenes they're dealing with these
satanists. Uh now whether they will uh
reveal that at any time I don't know. I
mean hopefully they do but then again uh
the public really hasn't been prepared
for this. I mean there are films like
Eyes Wide Shut which kind of helps
prepare people for the truth of just how
uh deep this corruption goes and how it
involves high level officials. But uh as
as far as the general public being
prepared, I don't I don't think they
really are. So it may well be that the
White Hats just kind of keep this all in
in done in secret and we'll move ahead
with uh their their agenda which I think
is to reveal the truth about uh many
subjects that have been suppressed for a
long time and I I think we have a lot to
look forward to because this is actually
a major cleanup operation and once it
reaches its uh end then uh life in the
United States will be changed forever
and it'll be much easier for the forces
of good to to really bring about
policies that that help all Americans uh
prosper and experience abundance.
>> I I hope you're right. I like that. I
like the positivity. I'm a glass half
full kind of person as well. Um protect
your children. As someone said in our
chat room, these these these sick people
are everywhere. So, we need to protect
our children. So hopefully what we're
seeing in Washington DC right now with
this eradication of crime is a template
maybe we'll see in other places. Dr.
Michael Salah, he writes over at
exopolitics.org. Um you can read all of
his great works. He's got incredible
books as well. Please go to Amazon,
check out his books under Dr. Michael
Salah on Amazon. I've read many of them.
They're just eye opening. Absolutely eye
opening. Great to have you back on the
show as always.
>> Thanks for having me. But what is Loheed
Martin hiding at their skunk works
facility in the desert? UFO technology
reverse engineered into secret craft
that we're not allowed to know about for
another 30 years. anti-gravity
propulsion technology
or a new version of their tic-tac
anti-gravity aircraft of course that was
spotted famously off the coast of the
USS Nimmits off the the pilots on the
off the USS Nimmitz of course famously
testifying before Congress it's this
man-made craft that could travel in ways
that humans never could um what is being
hidden right now at skunk works well and
Otis decided to find out he's been
sneaking ing out in the desert near the
Loheed Martin skunk works facility,
camping out overnight, using some
incredible uh uh night vision technology
as well as telephoto lenses to get as
close as he possibly can without
breaking in the law to try to get images
of these secret aircraft. Watch. I
thought I heard a plane circling
straight up ahead. And uh looks like we
got a predator drone. It's been flying
circles. I uh I still have service over
here. So, I was able to pull it up on my
ADSB app, too.
Yeah, they're tracking him there or
something. Who knows exactly what what
they're doing with that craft above his
head. Maybe just testing out [music] all
sorts of new technologies.
Well, Anders joins us now to talk about
his experience there. And I, you know, I
watch your videos and just been
fascinated about this. So, you know,
sometimes people do like clickbaity
stuff. Not you. Like you camped out
trying to get answers at what's going on
at Skunk Works. Um, so thank you so much
for joining us here on the show. I was
excited to talk with you.
>> Yeah, thanks so much for having me,
Clayton. I really appreciate you having
me on.
>> My pleasure. So, what was the impetus
for you to first start seeing and
getting as close as you could to Skunk
Works? What what rumors had you heard
over the years that you wanted answers
to?
Well, I guess uh going back, I've always
kind of been fascinated with the idea or
the concept that elements within the
military or military industrial complex
are like 30 to 50 years ahead of the
regular public technology-wise. So,
that's kind of what started my channel
is I really wanted to go out to these
sites. You know, you have Area 51, uh
but you also have places like this
Loheed site that are run by private
contractors where a lot of this uh new
technology is developed. So, I wanted
to, you know, I'd seen official press
releases from Loheed of this place, but
I had never actually seen somebody go on
the ground and just film stuff that
happens, whether it's in the day or the
night, and just kind of record and see
what what they can find out there. So, I
kind of wanted to do that. And, uh, this
was my second trip out there, actually.
I did another one back, and I think it
was either February or March of this
year. And, uh, I brought my night vision
gear with me. I brought a really long
telephoto lens and I basically just went
up into the hills all on public land and
uh recorded whatever I could uh capture.
>> So on the screen here, Philip, if you
could leave this up here, this is some
of the night vision stuff that you were
capturing. And we didn't know until the
daytime when you woke up the next day
what we were looking at. This weird
>> I guess you would call you call it a
pylon. You call it a pylon with some
something on top of it which looks like
some sort of a craft.
kind of break down like so we have we
have the pylon which what what this is
for is it's what's called radar
cross-section measurement. So this
facility out in the desert it's called
the Helenale radar cross-section
facility and they constructed this pylon
to have a very low almost invisible
radar signature which aids them in their
measurement because what they're trying
to do is they're testing these advanced
aircraft and seeing how stealthy they
are, seeing how they show up on radar.
Um, so what we're looking at here is the
night vision footage was I think it was
definitely a different airframe than
what we're looking at in the daytime.
Um, the one we're looking at here, um,
it could be, you know, it's really hard
to say, you know, I'm not Loheed Martin,
so I'm not entirely sure, but it is some
sort of a fuselage. I believe it could
be a model specifically to test like a
new stealth material, or it could be
like a fuselage with the the wings
removed of, say, a new drone. Loheed
Martin Barton did recently announce the
new Vectus drone. I don't think that's
what this is, but it could be something
similar. Um, it could uh, yeah, it could
just be an airframe designed to test a
new particular technology. There's
there's quite a few possibilities.
>> And you, what's crazy is you saw this
giant pylon like coming out of the
ground and then going back into the
ground with the aircraft like attached
to it. And I was racking my brain. I was
talking to, you know, a couple of my UFO
buddies that we commiserate from time to
time about different stories and things.
And I I'm just curious why why why why
this pylon comes out from underneath the
ground from their facility underground
and then sticks straight up in the air?
Like what's the point? Is there some
sort of an aerodynamic test point for
it? Because you would think you would do
that in your facilities underground. I
just don't understand why they're
sticking this thing up in the air.
>> Well, I'm I've honestly kind of been
fascinated with the way this facility
has been constructed. So, it has this
massive 200 foot deep underground
chamber that the pylon is actually
stored in, and it does allow them to
really quickly extend and retract the
aircraft. So, they actually store the
aircraft underground. Uh, but for a lot
of the measurement, um, I'm not the best
at scientifically explaining it, but for
the radar measurement that they blast
the airframe with, it does have to be at
least partially above ground. Um, there
are some indoor facilities now that do
this, uh, but this one, it was built,
uh, during the Cold War. Um, they kind
of designed it to be able to quickly
hide it from Soviet spy satellites,
which is why it retracts uh below ground
like it does.
>> So, when you've been out there at night
time, maybe we can play some of the
nighttime footage as well. Have you in
the times that you've been there? Um,
have you witnessed anything in the air
that you just think, wow, we I if if
Americans could see this type of
technology or the speed with which these
things move, they would be shocked. What
did have you What have you seen while
you've been there? Um, well, at the at
the Skunk Works facility in particular,
um, I haven't seen anything flying
except uh, the drones, like the Reaper
drone. Um, I did see the first time I
was out there a kind of interesting
looking drone that was more angular
shaped. It It wasn't a Reaper. I'm not
sure what it was. Um, but it was, uh,
yeah, it was flying in circles above me,
kind of like the Reaper was in this
video. Um, when I've been out uh more
towards Nevada, like towards Area 51,
when I've been looking through my night
vision uh scope, I can sometimes see
some things moving really high altitude
that are pretty strange. Like, um, for
example, you'll see something that looks
like a satellite. It's moving consistent
speed and consistent direction, but then
all of a sudden it'll quickly change
directions and suddenly it doesn't look
like a satellite anymore. So, there are
certainly are things flying around that
uh I think the American public should
know about and we don't. So,
>> yeah, that was to be honest with you,
hand to the heavens. That's when I
witnessed the fir my first UFO that I
ever saw. Um Oh, yeah. Looking up into
the night sky. Natalie and I both saw it
cuz we were both looking we we both we
we're checking with each other like are
we seeing this? and way up there
>> and just started moving in an
unbelievable speed in a box pattern way
up in the sky, you know, just right
across the sky up then just back down
like in traveling in enormous speeds. Um
yeah, I figured I'd share that. Um
>> yeah, that's awesome. I I truly believe
if anyone who spends enough time looking
up at the sky, you're eventually going
to notice something unusual because it
it's up there. So
>> maybe we can show some of the the
footage of here you I mean the security
trucks. So maybe you can explain like
where you are on these mountains here
because we know at Area 51 they have all
sorts of ground sensors that if you get
near any of the gates um I've know from
different reporters who've tried to get
close like the sensitivity I mean
they'll I even if it's like a they they
know if it's like a a gecko or a prairie
dog is moving out there with these
ground sensors. So um maybe you can talk
about some of the security precautions
that Lockheed has around this facility
and where exactly is this facility
located? Yeah. So, uh, this is, uh, like
I said, it's called the Helenale Radar
Cross-section Facility. It's technically
located in Helenale, California, which
is like a really small, unincorporated
part of, uh, rural LA County. So, it's
it's out in the Mojave Desert. Um, it's
pretty remote. You'll have a few houses
kind of scattered around out there, but
it's it's far enough from LA to where
you're not getting a whole lot of uh
prying eyes on it out there, except
people like me. But um yeah, you got uh
as far as security um they do have the
marked uh they're marked with Loheed
Martin security on the side of the
pickups. They they drive around the
perimeter. I do notice if you drive by
the gates or uh basically anywhere along
the fence line, they come out really
quick even if you don't have a direct
line of sight to the guard track. So I
do think there is some kind of a road
sensor system they have going on because
[snorts] as you say at Area 51, uh they
they operate those and I know these
these kinds of facilities are just as
sophisticated really. Um, I did have a
some sort of a there was a black pickup
that came out and was kind of looking at
me. Um, I don't know. He may have been
getting my plates or uh some people
theorized they may have been like
capturing uh packets from my my uh cell
phone, you know, who knows. U but they
basically just kind of parked in the
road next to me for maybe 20 minutes and
were just kind of watching me. So I
don't I don't know exactly what to make
of that, but it was interesting.
So, I mean, not to get in the realm full
realm of speculation, but I think we
Let's just have a little fun here. What
do you think?
>> I like that.
>> Yeah.
Do you think that there's any advanced
off-world technology being held and
analyzed, rebuilt, reverse engineered at
the Skunkworks facility?
>> My personal opinion is that probably
yes. Now, I don't we're we're definitely
in the realm of speculation. And I don't
have any direct evidence of that, but I
think there's enough credible testimony
out there um that would suggest that
Loheed Martin is probably one of the
companies that would be involved in
this. You know, they're they're the
largest US military defense contractor,
they're the largest defense contractor
in the world. Uh so if if it is true
that the US government has reverse
engineered technology, I would certainly
think Loheed Martin would be one of the
companies involved. And I think there's
enough uh enough whistleblower
testimony. You know, you have David
Grush, you have uh Dylan Borland who
just came out. Um I'm big fans of what
what they've had to say to Congress. And
uh I look I look forward to really
hearing more. And uh I think we will
hear Loheed Martin's name come up as uh
these uh kinds of hearings continue.
>> You know, not to tell tales out of
school, but I'm sure once your videos
hit and they became, you know, pretty
big. Have you heard from any
whistleblowers? I you can you can just
shake your head or just wink. Um from
any any Loheed Martin individuals who
are like wanted to fill you in on some
of the stuff that they they know about
at Lockheed at at Skunk Works.
>> I haven't had anyone reach out
unfortunately to to fill me in. I think
it is so compartmentalized and so
secretive that you know people people
reaching out like that would be taking a
pretty considerable risk. Um, I did get
a private message from somebody who said
they worked for Skunk Works, uh, after I
published my first video, but they were
more just kind of asking like where and
when I filmed it, which I don't really
know what kind of quite what they were
getting at with it, if it was like, you
know, probing for security reasons or
what, but it it didn't seem hostile or
anything like that. But that was the
only message I got directly from a Skunk
Works employee. I've had a few um I've
had a few high-profile people that were
either former Air Force test pilots or
former civilian employees at some of
these kinds of places like follow me on
Instagram and Twitter. Um so I am hoping
that you know some of these people are
going to start start reaching out to me
because uh I would love to to pick their
brain and hear what they have to say.
>> Well, I I love the videos. I love what
you're doing over at Uncanny Expeditions
on YouTube. Give them a follow um if
you're into this sort of thing like I
am. Um, I think you would really find it
fascinating. I, you know, check out this
the series that that, uh, that Anders
has done here on the Skunk Works
facility. His most recent one was just
published about seven days ago, and
that's where we got some of this
remarkable footage. Um, before I let you
go, like we're seeing this, you know, I
just want to keep talking to you. Um,
but this flatbed truck with this, you
know, airframe that's on it. You watch
this truck kind of going back and forth
here. What, um, and what's remarkable is
this truck goes underground. Like, this
thing is huge. This underground facility
must be massive.
>> Yeah. You know, there's there's so many
theories about this Helenale facility.
It's it's it's definitely kind of a
cornerstone in UFO UAP lore because it
has such a large underground component
to it. So, the pylon that comes up from
the facility, it's it's 200 feet tall
and the facility is 200 feet deep. So,
you could really hide a lot of things
down there. And there's all kinds of
speculation out there that there's
underground tunnels connecting this to
other facilities in the area. Area 51,
Edwards Air Force Base. You know, the
only way I'd be able to confirm that is
if I were able to rent rent like some,
uh, ground penetrating radar or
something like that. But, uh, we do know
for a fact that it would be a great
place to hide some of this stuff just
because you already have that
underground infrastructure there. And as
you say, this truck was able to drive
down there. And the truck, you know, it
it it fully entered the underground test
chamber and they loaded the model onto
it and they drove it right out. So,
>> yeah. And how hot it is and
inhospitable. Even in your video, you're
talking about how my god, it's just been
brutally hot. So, yeah.
>> Yeah. It's just not It's It's a great
place to hide stuff.
>> Yeah, for sure. Yep.
>> It's like Walter White in Breaking Bad
out in the out in the New Mexico desert.
It's a good place to hide stuff.
>> It's like Yeah. the the underground
laundry facility or whatever he had up
there.
>> Right. Exactly. Anders, great to have
you here on the show again. The the webs
the the YouTube channel is called
Uncanny Expeditions. Um check out his
latest videos on Skunk Works and I'm
looking forward to your next videos. By
the way, thanks Andre. Great to have you
here.
>> Yeah, I really appreciate it. Thanks so
much.
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