I think how I trade is very simple. My
questions that I ask are is it done
going down? That's the first question.
So, is it done going down means am I
already seeing pops of buyers? And I saw
this first pop of buyers here with
earnings and then it kind of just
puttered out and then I saw another pop
of buyers here and then we had this nice
little flush out. So, in my mind
anything on this First of all, we're on
the right side of the base. So, anything
on the right side of the base as long as
we're holding over here on that it
marked 6662.
Then I'm expecting it to go up from
here.
This is Emanuella Elias. Today's guest
is a North Carolina based technical
analyst and options trader who brings a
sharp edge to the US equities price
action and market structure. She's
deeply focused on the psychology of
trading and the systems that create
consistent decisions under pressure. She
also writes the trader reset, a weekly
newsletter where she blends the S&P 500
analysis with honest insights from her
personal trading journey. Emanuella,
thank you so much for joining us today.
I'm very excited about our conversation.
I Thank you so much for having me. That
song was really epic.
I know, right? It's it's
>> was just like so ridiculous. It's like
the opposite of what all of this is.
But but the funny part about it is the
the whole Chris chains idea was born out
of like all the fake gurus who come out
on on you know, Instagram or YouTube and
they're like, look at how great I am,
right? And and we know that that's not
the reality of trading.
No, I I mean it's
it's definitely a wild ride and I find
that people who are I know that it's a
mix now, but people who are more to
themselves tend to be the ones that are
actually doing it. And anytime someone
is telling me that they're doing great
in trading, I'm like, show me your tax
return or show me your numbers. Like I
need to see it. Yeah, legit. And
Emanuela is no slouch. Emanuela, how
much did you did you earn last year in
the US Investing Championship? Dollar or
percent-wise?
>> Oh, percent-wise. Okay, 260%
return. Only 260%
in the 2025 US Investing Championship.
How close were you from the top? You
must have been in the top.
Yes.
I made it to the I made it to the fourth
place in my division. So, that was
pretty cool. Um
and yeah, it was definitely a ride
and something totally interesting to
have a time limit
to producing. That was
a different pressure. Yeah, it's it's
it's like you know, LeBron James in
basketball, right? He's in the finals,
he's got this pressure on him,
everybody's watching and it's like this
is a performance endeavor versus
you know, most most jobs out there are
not performance endeavors like what what
you're doing. Yeah,
that I think that that whole thing it's
there's so many things about trading
that just don't really
they take a long time to just click in
your brain.
One of them is that it is about money
and it is about profits and if you have
any kind of relationship to money that's
negative, it's really hard to
um
reconcile that.
Then it's the pressure of the
performance and then it's also like
um
it's also
that you don't earn on a regular basis.
Sometimes you earn everything in 3
months for the whole year and that's
unfathomable to like someone who's been
in a paycheck kind of situation. like
you have to understand that sometimes
if you have big earnings that might be
it for the year
for whatever reasons and you know, then
just to slow down and
kind of take your time with the rest of
the year.
It's so true and I and I like to talk
about that as well is that we don't get
to tell the market when we get paid,
right? The market will pay us whenever
it's it's good and ready, right? We
can't do anything about it other than be
ready when it arrives because there's
going to be times where the market may
take off and if you're on vacation, that
may be the best week or two of the year
and and you weren't part of it. I know.
I just had a friend of mine, a colleague
that
was on vacation for his I think it was a
30th anniversary with his wife and came
back and was like, "What?"
And I was like, "I'm so sorry." So, I
don't know, you know, it's hard because
you know,
we trade options. So, for him I said,
"You know, sometimes just maybe think
about putting on a stock position that's
easier to manage and easier to set
limits
and stop losses
if you, you know, take a peek at your
charts and it and you know, you can't
actively manage it cuz for me, I buy
options
and it's a very actively managed kind of
thing. I don't just like put it on and
sometimes, you know, a shower cost me
$1,500.
>> Right.
And I don't like that feeling. So, I've
got my alerts on. I try to stay near my
screens when I'm
in something, especially something
that's a new position
or I'm getting ready to get out of it.
So, I I'm I also like to trade options
and uh by buying them. Tell me tell me
about your your options
uh what what kind of options do you buy,
right? Do you buy deep in the money? Do
you buy out of the money, at the money?
what are you looking at? So, I have
for I have transitioned to I used to buy
out of the money options like maybe two
to five strike prices out. Um
but I went ahead and changed that to
just buying at the money options
with one to three weeks of time. Just
depends on like where we're at in the
price cycle and just overall in the
market.
Uh and
that's usually that's what I've been
doing now. So, I find that um you know,
they're still super volatile. Like you
can I mean, a few ticks
it just options like a few ticks in the
other direction and you're down like
20%. A few ticks in the direction you
picked, you're up like 5% and it's like
doesn't math.
Yeah, no no no, I get that. And and
especially those at the money options,
they can be really volatile, right?
Especially with the gamma risk that
surrounds it, right? So, so our traders
who watch this, they're smart. They know
exactly what we're talking about here.
Um
are you holding those at the money
options like how how long are you
holding? Do you know your your stats as
far as like your average duration,
anything like that? Yeah, so depends on
the season, right? So, when we were in
the
choppy we were you know, before we had
the decline in that choppy
range probably like four I'm I don't
want to be a day trader, but the
environment was not suitable. So, about
four to 12 hours
and in that kind of range. But if I'm if
we have something like what we're seeing
now and what started um
what when was then?
So, for context, we are recording this
mid-April and the market has just
bottomed and it's starting to to turn
back up and we're pushing close to
all-time highs, just out of nowhere, all
over again.
I know, and I have some regrets.
Really? Tell me about it. I I think
besides that little if you look at the
chart, especially the S&P,
um so I
my time last year had some great ups and
then some great downs. So I have been in
time out. Um a smaller position size,
taking less trades. So that's one part
of the story. But the second part is
that when you're like kind of
emotionally recovering from like a
drawdown type of, you know, a really big
uh drawdown or tilt,
um you're a little bit more jumpy,
right? Yeah. The regret I have is if you
look at the S&P, I I follow I like I
this is a chart that gives me like my
market. Um when I was looking at this,
it really just reminded me of what we
had last year, which was what we had in
2020 as well, which is just like this
part, I'm going to say, is your outlier,
right? So this is where the the panic
happened, um and we went down much
further. But something like this,
and then we found stability around this
area and we zoomed up. Mhm. I saw that
this is the same time as last year and
um
we went down pretty bee line,
found a base, and now we have this right
side of the V, right? Around the same
time, right? And that was the same thing
that happened. I was ready for it this
time because in 2020 I missed it. I was
too young a trader. I didn't know what
was going on.
And
I was I called this one last year Trump
2.0.
Uh
I didn't know we were going to have a
3.0. Yeah. I'm saying that it's exact,
but it's so similar that I it I just
didn't have it in my head that it could
have been like, all right, we're going
to flush out and we're going to just
pump back up. So, that's my regret cuz I
between
uh where I was at mentally, my exposure
limits that I've set on myself, I was
just like, okay.
I mean, what do you think? Do you see
some that's similar thing?
I actually started getting
uh I I got all the way in on Friday,
last Friday. Yeah.
>> Um it it uh it was a little bit
nerve-racking, I'll give you that,
especially with uh the golden toilet
tweets at all times, right? When he's
sitting on the toilet with his two
thumbs. Yes, I can move the financial
markets with just these two itty-bitty
baby thumbs.
Um you know, anything can happen over
the weekend and and something did
happen, right? They announced the
blockade of Hormuz and everything like
that. And so, people who are watching
this in the future, they're going to
look at this and be like, "Oh, course.
Of course I would have gone long right
there." But let's be realistic here.
With everything that's coming at you,
right? Staring at you right in the face,
can you actually sit there
and say, "Okay, you know what? It's time
to get busy." In fact, let me share my
screen real quick. Yes.
>> Um
because I got long on this candle right
here. This candle right here, I got full
portfolio into I'm at like 12 positions
right now. And um like for me, it was a
little bit nerve-racking and I saw a lot
of people, a lot of chatter in our
Discord like, "Are you sure you want to
do that? Are you sure you want to go
into the weekend with that? That sort of
risk?" And I'm like, "You know what?
This is my plan. This is the plan that
I've been working on, that I've
back-tested, that I've proven out does
work." And none of that
falls into the emotional side of maybe I
shouldn't take this, right? No.
>> And
Oh, please go ahead. No, that's it. I
also um put my positions on as well at
the same time. And it just was for me it
was just a lot less exposure than I had
wanted to
well then I wish but then again if we
just went ahead and rolled over it
wouldn't have been
I wouldn't
I'm either crying because I'm not in
enough or I'm crying because I'm losing
money and I just talked about that in my
newsletter cuz that's like does it ever
end but I think so I think as you like
start to grow like you get tired of your
at least for me I started to get tired
of my own emotions and I'm like okay
we're just going to go from here and
whatever bites I can get just try to
appreciate those. Yeah that makes sense.
Well I've got a handful of questions
here I wanted to ask you and of course
the first question I like to ask people
is how did you even get interested in
trading? Right it's a it's a very
typical male-dominated industry and of
course anytime we see a female it's it's
kind of one of those things like wait a
minute there's a girl there's a girl
that's interested in this what what's
going on here? Right? So
Yeah no I've always been interested in
the finance world in general but my I
just
when I was younger I just took a lot of
different paths that were not finance
but it's always been in the back of my
head. I mean when I even straight out of
college I was on the phones with I was a
phone rep for Fidelity Investments cuz
that was like I'm going to choose this
path
and then
and then a few years into there I don't
know if cuz of the corporate environment
or cuz I was just young and wanted to be
free and travel who knows.
I ended up doing a lot of other things
including like teaching Pilates and
I love that so much
but I eventually got back into it
because I mean there's always something
about it that draws you to being able to
create money without overhead without
employees without bosses and I thought
it was a very autonomous kind of thing
to do, and that really attracted me to
it. So,
I started to study it on my own with
free resources from the internet, and I
had a uh co-worker of mine cuz I was
working at a Lifetime um
gym,
and he was like, "Hey, there's this
class. I think you should really take
it." And I started I avoided him cuz I
was like, "Eh, I want to do this on my
own." Plus, I was like really I mean, I
wasn't bringing in a lot of money, so I
was like, "Eh, you know,
uh I don't want to spend on a course.
I'm going to try There's, you know, I
should be disciplined enough to use all
the free resources out there." But, I
ended up signing up for the class
anyways, and um so, I learned how to
trade options uh or at least a way of
trading options from this class, and
then I never looked back. Okay. So, so
that was your your gateway drug, right?
So, you had a gym bro walk up to you,
and he's like, "Hey, you want to trade
options? Look at my bicep. Isn't it so
sick, right?" Is that Is that how it
went, right? Your gym bro taught you or
at least got you interested in trading
options?
I mean, he was just
he didn't know
he we were co-workers, so he was really
kind about it, you know? He wasn't like
saying like, "Look at all the money I
make." He's just like, "If you're going
to do this, like I think it's a good
idea to like learn it from this class."
And what he was definitely right about
was that class gave me
I mean, the the instructor was such a
kick-butt instructor
that
aside from what I learned like about
technical analysis, he whipped us into
shape because
he has a way of teaching where
you
you know
I think I don't know if
I think we all suffer from like victim
mentality in some
way, shape, or form. Um, and especially
when we're younger, like things are
happening to us and like, "Oh, I can't
make money." And there was just like a
lot of brokenness, like just financially
and just not not being able to like gain
traction on anything.
This teacher, he had us studying,
reading books,
uh, everything was our fault. And
which I mean, you know, there's
spectrums to things, right? So, like if
if you're losing you're not studying
enough. If you're doing this, you're not
reading enough. Like it's on you. It's
on you. And um, I needed that. And that
gave me the just
self-reflection and awareness to
understand that I can have and do
anything I want to in this world. And
it's just a matter of continuing to go
even when things are hard, but also
being very honest with what I wanted.
So, at the time I was teaching Pilates
and I loved it. And I was also training
teachers,
but what I realized is in order to make
the income that I wanted from that, I'd
have to do like online studios and cert-
certifications and like really expand
myself as the brand. And I was like, "I
don't want to do any of that. I want to
make a a lot of money." And so, that's
kind of what attracted me to this
without having to like be on the
internet. And I mean, I'm on there now,
but it's not my main thing. Like I just
um, I use it more as an accountability.
And you know, cuz when you teach
something, you have to really know it.
Yeah. So.
>> And when you compete on the world stage,
you have to really know it as well.
Yeah.
So it's interesting you mentioned about
the the accountability that was taught
to you by your mentor. I actually worked
with a trading psychologist for about
two years and he kept,
you know, banging into my head over and
over and over the personal agency aspect
of it, which sounds a lot like what
you're talking about, which is I can
only control so many things and at the
end of the day, what can we control? We
can control where we get in, where we
get out and what size we get in with.
The rest of it is the market's job to to
either reward us or to you know, show us
that we can move on to the next trade,
right? And that's I think that's a huge
thing is having that personal agency is
to to to understand what you can control
and what you can't control. Would you
mind sharing who that instructor was or
if not, totally cool.
I mean definitely.
He's
His name is Gary Williams and
I think the website is
getmarketskills.com.
His son actually runs it now and um
I
I mean I
I think that
the discipline that
I've never had a teacher that was like
so hard but like
if unless you are like disciplined and a
professional and you're coming into this
and you're very like self-regulated and
all of that, you can skip that class.
But most people coming into this space
are in a place where they're trying to
leave their jobs or they're trying to
make money or they're just not there
mentally and emotionally. You really
have to build yourself in order to do
this on a professional level. There's
just no way around it. So yeah, I really
enjoyed my time with him. Very cool.
Thank you for sharing.
So originally that type of trading you I
think you mentioned earlier that you
don't quite trade the same way in the
anymore. What was that style of trading?
So, very um it's very technical based.
Um
and the biggest difference and one of
the reasons that I
I think everyone wants to start with
someone like take some time to go out on
your own
um to really like get things integrated
for yourself.
Uh
the styles don't vary too much. It's
still very much based on structure and
where we're at in the price cycle.
Uh the biggest difference is that I use
like a quarter of the technicals that he
was using.
>> Oh.
Got you. So, so you've cleaned up your
charts, it sounds like. I had to
simplify because it's too much noise. Um
and
I don't think you need all that
for
the duration that I'm in a trade. Like
I maybe look to the bigger charts like
the monthly
chart is probably the biggest chart I
look at, but mostly if I'm like looking
to put on a longer-term stock position.
But besides that, I look at the weekly
to set up my levels. And then my four
time frames that are on my
screen during the day are just 5-minute,
15-minute, hourly, and daily. Okay. 5,
15, hourly, and daily. So,
do you You you mentioned earlier you
used to trade when the market was choppy
around 4 to 12 hours, but you prefer
longer-term swing trading, right? How
how long is longer-term Well, I
shouldn't say longer-term. That's that's
me putting your words in your mouth.
Yeah, that's true. Uh how how long does
the swing trading aspect actually look
for you on a on a normal market?
Uh anywhere from
a few days or three or four Like we say
normal market. Right now it's a pretty
strong uptrend but like three to five
days or
just under like a
under two weeks so maybe like a week and
a half.
>> Got you. That makes that makes total
sense especially for the the duration of
options you're looking at which you said
was one to three weeks. Yeah. That's
another difference because I shortened
my expiration cuz I like to trade one
leg at a time.
Okay, what does that mean to you one leg
at a time?
>> So for me one leg at a time is you
I'm in a trade
I would say like on the daily time frame
you'll see
where it starts to sputter out and get
flat.
So once once we've got a significant
move on that I'll come out and then I'll
wait for a little digestion
and then see if there's another leg on
that. So
>> Oh, I I see what you're saying. I see
you're not in it for like the the 50-day
move or something like that. You're in
it for the pop and then once it starts
to do with the consolidation you're
you're getting out and maybe moving to
something else and you're looking for
the next pop to to show where that's
going, right? Yep. Okay, I'm glad I
asked because generally when people talk
about options and legs you're talking
about like an iron condor like a
four-leg strategy or something like
that.
>> no that's so when you're talking to I am
the least
I will know nothing. I know of the
words. I know what an iron condor is. I
know what gamma theta delta beta
whatever all those I know what all of
those are but I don't pay attention to
them at all. So
I actually think that's great and I'll
give you a great story that that goes
along with exactly what you just said.
So I worked in finance for 12 years and
I did consulting on a on a daily basis.
I was reaching out to credit unions and
I would show them where they could make
more money in their portfolios and have
less risk. That was my thing day in day
out. And I started picking up options on
the side. This is what I was doing on my
own. And you know, I'd be talking around
the office about it. And one day I was
talking to my my boss at the time. And
he's like he was a CFA, which is like
one of the hardest certifications you
can get in finance. And super
intelligent guy, but a dick. And
so he and I were talking one day and
he's like, oh yeah, if you're so smart,
what's the what's the Black-Scholes
model formula there real real quick,
buddy? And I'm like,
well, I don't know off top of my head.
And I don't have to know it off top of
my head. I just know how to make money
using options. Yes.
>> And that shut him up real good. And I
love that that is also the type of type
of trader you are, right? I don't need
to know all the details. I just need to
know how to make money. I think that's
brilliant. That's why I simplified
everything. There was a lot of things
that I had to unlearn because when you
have too much information, it's
you cannot execute quickly.
You're in a paralyzed state and you're
checking like 10 different things and
it's like no, you for me I look at the
structure, I look where we're at and I'm
like, okay, I'm going to put a little
line here and I'm going to get in. If it
crosses the line below my line, I'm
going to get out. And I have rules
around like how long I you know, I let
it cuz it'll cross the line sometimes
and pop back up. So I have rules around
that. But for the most part, that's what
it is because I don't know what it's
going to do. I can just put my best
prediction forward. So.
I love that. I mean, first off, talking
about how
you don't know what the market's going
to do. I think embracing the uncertainty
is the only way to be successful in the
markets, right? There's
because I am a quote professional
YouTuber, I'm doing lots of research on
all these other channels, right? And I
found one channel that's way too big for
his own good. And he talks all the time
about this is what the market should do
here. It should go up, it should go
down. And I like to say should is the
most dangerous word in finance. And you
know this too, Emanuela, because like
anytime you think it should do something
and you put your money behind it, you're
about to get monkey hammered, right? The
market does not care what you think.
It's going to do what it's going to do.
No, everything that you read about in
books like Market Wizards and things
from top traders who are actually paying
their bills and making a living and more
from this is true. The market is just it
doesn't care about you whatsoever, and
should isn't should not be part of your
vocabulary.
Even Even when I write my newsletter, I
I make sure to say may do this, and I
give different scenarios. Like even for
the newsletter I put out on Sunday, I
said, "And for those who think we might,
you know, roll over from here, this is
what it would look like." I give all the
scenarios of up, down, sideways because
you don't know, but you want to be ready
to
to see what kind of price action is
happening
that might give you clues, but that's
it. Yeah, exactly.
So, how long have have you been trading?
You mentioned earlier that you were
trading back in 2020. How long have you
been trading?
So, 2019 is when I started learning to
trade options,
and for the first 2 years I lost tens
and thousands of dollars.
But, I had a day job back then, so I was
transitioning from training,
doing the Pilates to I also had a role
as an operations director.
So, I was director of operations for an
Amazon consulting firm.
And so, having lost so much, you know, I
would just refill, refill, refill.
And
Yeah, so that it was those first 2
years, I mean, when I took that class, I
thought that by the weekend I was going
to be a millionaire. I was like, "Oh my
god, I can see the charts. I know what
I'm doing. Yeah. It was so wild. It was
I cried so many times. And I I mean, I
still cry. Like I will still drop some
tears. So.
Yeah, I get that. Yeah, 2021 is when I
started to see real change and
profitability.
And then some somewhere between 2022 and
2023 when I left the group I was in I
wanted to just go on my own, keep things
very simple. Um I realized I needed
structure. Uh and that's when I created
I had another mentor. Um I By the way,
like whoever is listening to this, like
mentors and um whether you're working
with a psychologist or therapist, it
doesn't matter. You need You need I
always say it takes a village to raise a
trader because you have to have like a
bunch of support, especially if you're
new. When you're new, you need to find
someone and stick with them until you're
ready to And you don't have to go on
your own. I just chose it because I
needed something different for myself.
Yeah.
What changed in 2021 that brought you to
profitability? Cuz you said the first 2
years were just very difficult. And And
there's nothing wrong with that, right?
I want to preface this and say
I like to say that uh there's there's a
90-90-90 rule. You're probably familiar
with it, where 90% of traders blow up
90% of their accounts the first 90 days
of trading. I blew up my account twice.
I lost over $200,000 thinking I was a
genius by selling options. Get this,
Emanuella. I had a 84% I'm the only guy
in the in the whole world that could
have had an 84% win rate, yet lost
$200,000.
What a genius I was, right? Thinking I
was so smart the whole whole way down.
So, the first year of trading, don't
expect to win, right? If you can not
blow out your account, you're in the top
10% of traders. Year two, you want to
try to get to break even. Year three,
maybe you can start put posting profits.
And year four, then if you have survived
that long, you might actually be
profitable in the market. What changed
for you around 2021 where things started
clicking?
I think for me it was just like
so one of the reasons I went on my own
is because I was so concerned with like
following someone's strategy that wasn't
a fit for me. Mhm.
And
it
So I was I was going from like trying
to, you know, get a gold star for
someone else's strategies and then I
started to just like strip out what was
working for me and what changed was
probably that
in my head I was like this is about
profits. Like I understand that like I
do understand. I don't want to mix it up
that, you know, um
the thing that they say about like it's
you know, follow the process and it's
like don't worry about the numbers and
everything like that. That that is true.
But for me it's like what is going to
make me profitable? Because I was like
that's the whole point of this. So I was
like what is impacting me
from like losing I would go from like
having a winning trade to it going red.
I had that a lot.
I would um
definitely oversize
and I think probably if I were to give
you
the main thing it it was probably just
taking my profits earlier. I started to
learn to scale out and I started to
learn
what other people on the internet were
doing. So YouTube I mean you can really
learn a lot on YouTube.
But again I I that it's really good to
have someone that you're working with
and then as you explore things that are
suited for your plan but um I learned a
lot from different people I was watching
and I was like, "Oh, this person doesn't
hold their position the whole time." And
they pay themselves and I was like, "I'm
going to start paying myself." So little
things like that um it's never one thing
it's always an accumulation of things.
Got you.
Do you um cuz I want to ask cuz this is
one of the the the greatest ninja hacks
that I ever came across.
Um the
there was a guy on CNBC one day and he
and I got into a Twitter argument and I
was like, "No, what you're doing is so
dumb." And he's like, "Shut up, you
don't know what you're talking about."
And I like, "No, you're wrong." Of
course as Twitter arguments go, right?
And he's like, "Why don't you come down
here to Austin and and tell it to my
face?" And I said, "I'll meet you 5
hours from now. Let's go." So I met him
at a Starbucks Austin. Yeah, no way.
Yeah, legit. Um so I met him at a
Starbucks in Austin and we got to
talking.
And uh his name is Mike Coe and one of
the things that that I learned from him,
like he could understand, you know, my
my passion in the markets. One of the
things I learned from him was rolling my
options. And rolling my options meaning
like if I'm buying an option and it
starts to work, I'll then roll it from
one strike down and when I take the
credit off of that, I'm taking partial
profits and um I'm freeing up capital
that I can put on new trades with and uh
I'm allowing the trade to stay on pretty
close to the deltas that I originally
put on on the original trade. And so
when you mentioned, you know, taking uh
you know, partial profits on the way up,
we recently did a back test and we found
that the um a lot of people like to uh
put on their position, maybe their full
size, maybe for example, maybe it's 10
contracts and if it moves up 3 5% or so,
start peeling off and maybe have, you
know, five contracts as it works all the
way up. Um we found that the only time
that that actually made sense by pulling
off half your position or whatever it
is, is if the market drops like silver
did a few weeks ago by 30%. Any other
time, if it didn't drop by 30%, you're
actually leaving money on the table
versus rolling into uh the full position
size by rolling those uh those trades.
And so, I wanted to bring that to you as
a fellow options trader. Maybe that's
something you could incorporate into
your plan because it works like
gangbusters and um definitely something
I I would highly recommend if you
haven't done that already. Is that
something you do? Mhm. I haven't done
that um
and you're talking about
you're saying because if unless it's
like backing up, more than likely it's
going up and I'm just pulling
uh contracts off before it continues
>> what you're doing? Well, let me rephrase
that. Are Is that what you're doing in
these trades as you mentioned paying
yourself as it goes? Are you taking off
position a partial position on the way
up? I set Yeah, I set targets um based
on the daily and hourly chart time frame
and there cuz there are there are places
on the chart where it might pull back or
it might pause and it's just based off
of levels. So, I have like two to three
different targets that I pull take some
of my position off. But no, I definitely
I'm I'm open to to uh learning new
things. I'm just very protective of what
I do and how I do it. Oh, yeah. I get
that.
But I um but I will say that this year
I've been thinking about
uh
this being more than just like
you know, making a living.
Um
I'm wondering how to get to the next
level. So, you know, I can get to six
figures, but how do I get to higher six
figures? How do I break into seven? Can
I do that, you know? So, since that's
been on my mind, I do think about are
there some things that could actually be
helpful um
where I've you know, I've been very, you
know, I'm I stick to what I do and I
don't want to
mess up what I'm doing. Yeah.
>> But I think that there are going to be
some things to learn
that can help me
uh move to the next level.
Dude, what I mean
I'm constantly trying to to find new
ways to improve my edge and I you seem
like the kind of person who would be
like that as well. I mean, just this
year I've made several changes to my
plan because it's it's new data brought
to my attention. It's like, wait a
minute. That actually could prove to be
something useful. I'm going to start
implementing that right away. And of
course, you got to look at it as like,
you know what? Is there really a flaw in
my plan?
If not, then then maybe there's nothing
to do or is this a way to eke out a
little bit more edge? Maybe there is
something here, right? And listen, it's
from from somebody who who pulled out
260% last year, I shouldn't be telling
you anything, right? I should be
listening, writing down everything that
you have to say because you have clearly
know what you're doing, right? You
clearly know what you're doing. How did
you Was this your first year in the uh
the US Investing Championship? I I
entered with like a $10,000 account the
year before and didn't even make it out
the first month.
Um
It wasn't It was It was a a singular
account. Wasn't It was specific for the
competition. And I was like, I'll just
allocate 10 grand and I'm going to grow
it to 100K.
Uh I didn't make it out and uh so cuz
you asked if it was my first year. So
technically, it's my second year, but I
didn't even finish competing. I didn't
turn anything in. I uh think I had a few
grand left in that account and just
moved it over to my other account. Yeah.
Yeah. Okay. So so that leads into one of
my questions which I I
I love this question to ask champions
like yourself.
Because especially in 2024, how did you
gather the courage to jump into the US
Investing Championship knowing that the
whole world would be able to see your
verified results. How did you know you
would do well? And then in 2024, right?
It didn't go to plan.
How did you know in 2025 that everything
would be different?
I didn't.
Um I didn't, but I am a bit competitive.
I also like to I mean, as you mentioned,
this is still very much a boys club.
Like when I was in high school, uh I
fought to get into a weightlifting class
that was during the day and I pointed to
the smallest guy and I said, "I can lift
more than he can. Let me in class." And
I got enrolled as the first woman or
first girl in my high school uh
weightlifting class cuz I was running
track. Like you needed to do strength
training.
So,
when we're we're talking about the
competition, I didn't know if I was
going to place or anything.
Um but it's it was a culmination of
just my competitive spirit, trying to
break into the boys club, and then also
there have been, you know, there's more
and more traders out there
nowadays and I think it is very
important that you enter competitions to
show like put your money where your
mouth is because
as I was saying earlier, people will
talk about, "Oh, yeah, I'm a trader."
And "Oh, yeah, I did really well." And
then you don't hear from them. You don't
hear about the losses and it's like,
"No, I want to hear from you." Like So,
I think it's important, especially if
you are if you have like a public space,
like on a you know, YouTube or
something, you need to enter these
competitions and show that your strategy
works. Like I
I just Yeah, so that's kind of how I got
to it. No, I'm really glad that you said
that because in fact, when we talked to
to Norm, Norm Zada, the the the
organizer. That's exactly what he said.
He said years ago, like he wanted to
make a competition for all these these
these guys on TV talking about how great
they are. Well, prove it, right? And I
love that because that's exactly the
mentality I took this year, right?
There's so so many incredible investing
geniuses on YouTube.
And yet, none of them compete in the US
Investing Championship. That's so weird.
I wonder why they I wonder why they
don't do that. I mean, it's so And if
you do have that much money, like you
can also just enter the division that I
did, which you only need 20,000. So,
they can just siphon off 20,000 and
trade that account. Like you don't even
have to trade with your whole portfolio.
But to me, it's just like it I I'm just
like show me. So.
Yeah, exactly.
Very cool, Emmanuelle. I love being able
to to find ways to to bond with with
with you on this because you and I have
a lot of similarities. So,
you compete in the US Investing
Championship in 2024, and in 2025, you
did an amazing result, 260% gains in a
single year. Are you competing in 2026?
I am.
Yeah. How's that going so far?
Uh
well, up until this last little boost
we've gotten, I was pretty flat. So,
I've been taking a lot less trades.
Um I'm up about 30% right now.
So,
just just looking to
not make So, I will say that
I don't have the
Like I'm recovered. And what I keep
talking about recovery is like I had a
much higher percent last year, and then
I gave back a good chunk of profits.
So, it that took a toll on me. Um as of
There was one day
that one day last week where I was like,
okay, I feel like myself now. And I it
was even it was a red day for myself.
Like my it wasn't even because my
accounts were in green. I was like, I
felt the shift that I was ready to go
again. So, um
yeah, competing again. I I don't want to
be like the one-hit wonders, you know?
Like
I think that if you're actually a good
trader, that you can
do it again. Um
so, just that's kind of what I'm doing.
That makes total sense. I forget, there
was one of the guests we talked to.
Uh it may have been Morad Azadi. He said
he's more impressed by somebody who
repeatedly year after year after year
puts up, you know, even even somewhat
modest returns. Like your 30 only 30% so
far this year. He prefers to see those
people who have the consistency versus
somebody who gets 400% one year and then
is completely out the next year. And I
think that's really important as well,
right? How how can you really make
generational wealth if you blow it up
one year and then you literally blow out
the next year? That's just not going to
happen. Right. It doesn't.
So, if you could start all over again,
what would you do differently to find
success faster in the markets?
Like from when I first started in 2019?
>> imagine if you're a completely green,
you've never traded anything before.
What would you do? What would you tell
younger Emanuella who's ready to get in
the markets and she's like, "I'm going
to know everything by this weekend."
What would you tell her to get up to
speed faster? Oh.
Um
you know, when I think back to like who
I was and
just my mindset back then,
I don't know if
even if I told that person what to do if
I would have heard it. That's why I
think a lot of this is just really a
journey that some people can
you know, flip the switch in 6 months
and they're like, okay, I get it. And
some people are
years, five, maybe 10 years like till
they get it or never do. Um
I think that it really depends where
you're at mentally.
And
that's why I always give credit to my
first mentor where it's like, if I
didn't get out of that victim mentality
and also at that time I like had $40,000
in consumer debt. I and I
everything that he was teaching us was
like work, work hard, you know, have
three jobs, get out of debt, pay your
mortgage off. Like he was like on us.
Um if I didn't have that, I don't think
that I would have gotten to the place to
to even absorb like
to listen to what I, you know, what we
we all collectively tell new traders.
Um it's really about building yourself
up and
working through
I don't know if there's another word for
like the victim mentality.
But it just kind of is
it you have to understand that you
have complete agency over yourself and
what you want in this life.
We are also very blessed to be
I mean, I think we live super privileged
just a lot of us. We have access to a
lot, especially through the internet,
through our communities, and just taking
advantage of that and just really
meeting the right people. So.
Well, I'm really happy that you did meet
the right people, right? That eventually
led you to finding that success. That's
awesome. Yeah. Would you be open to
sharing some of your trading strategy?
Maybe some trades that you're looking at
now, maybe something you've put on maybe
last year that you're comfortable with
sharing, right? I want to see what that
edge looks like, Emanuella.
Yeah, for sure. Um all right. So, I have
two two ways I trade.
One is breakout and one is a retest
after the breakout. So, super simple.
Um Hood is one of my
uh breakout positions and I went ahead
and took an option and a stock position
on it.
And I bought it
This This corner here is the daily
chart. So, I bought um my stock position
here on Thursday uh
the 9th.
And then I bought my option position
here on Friday the 10th.
Um
I'm a little looser with my uh stock
positions. Um
I mean, not much, but
I went ahead and the reason I got into
it is I think how I trade is very
simple. My questions that I ask are is
it done going down? That's the first
question.
So, is it done going down means am I
already seeing pops of buyers? And I saw
this first pop of buyers here with
earnings. And then it kind of just
puttered out and then I saw another pop
of buyers here. And then we had this
nice little flush out. So, in my mind,
anything on this First of all, we're on
the right side of the base. So, anything
on the right side of the base, as long
as we're holding over here around that I
have it marked 66 62,
then I'm expecting it to go up from
here. Even I wasn't in it when it tested
here and pulled back, but it's kind of
that's just how I look at it. So,
for my
um
for my stock position, if we can make
our way back up here um around 105,
between a you know, 100 is going to be
your psychological level, 105.
Um
we make our way back up, I might take
some off. And um as far as the option
goes, just here about 95. So, nothing
major.
Got you. So, what what was your catalyst
to say
that to you it's done going down? I
mean, it's popped like $10 since since
that point. So, you're totally right on
the money right there. Yeah.
>> What was it that you were looking for?
I look for I call it pop of buyers. So,
I see pop of buyers here. I saw some
more interest. I see levels that are
holding.
Um and as you can see this little gray
uh rectangle I have, I kind of just take
the structure and I group it and I want
to buy towards the bottom of the
structure. So, that's something that I
learned from day traders. Yeah. That's
how what they look at cuz I used to buy
up here when things were already going.
But for options, buying options, you
can't do that. So, um I made my box
based off of this data earlier. I saw
the interest. I saw everything hold up.
Um I wasn't too concerned about this
because I'm like, "Okay, this is just it
can just be a flush out." And I saw this
all of this buyers picking up and I was
like, "Okay, I'm in."
Have you heard of Nicolas Darvas? Do you
know who he is?
The Is that the Darvas box? Yes. It
sounds a lot like you're popping out of
a bottom of a Darvas box and popping
back into it.
Um I I of the Darvas box. I don't know
much about him.
Um
>> Oh, that is one of my top five trading
books. Let me give me just a second
here. I would highly Do you like to
read?
I love to read. Ah, well, I got a I got
a collection for you. Let me I would
highly recommend uh this one right here,
How I Made $2 Million in the Stock
Market. Uh this was written by Nicolas
Darvas in the 1950s. And a funny story
about him, he was a dancer. Like it's
his job was to go out and shake his
booty on the stage. That was his actual
job. And he did it from all over the
world. And um he found that the further
away he got from Wall Street, the more
money he made because he could focus in
on the price action versus the story
going around all that.
>> noise
>> Uh
yeah, this is a great book. Uh this
edition was uh updated and amended with
uh our commentary by Steve Burns. Do you
know Steve Burns from Twitter?
No. Oh man, Steve, he's got like
800,000 something followers. He's huge
on Twitter. Uh one of my direct mentors.
Um and so he goes through each chapter
and he's like, "Okay, here's like a
modern spin on an on what he's talking
about in in in this book." So,
definitely one that I would recommend,
especially because it fits somewhat
within your trading style.
Um I mean, if dudes dudes making $2
million bucks in 1950, you could
probably make a couple dollars more than
that in 2026, right?
>> into that, I would be just so grateful.
Uh
that's what I'm looking for. Um I
you know,
what we're talking about is like I just
do the the most basic of basic things
and if I can find things that will give
me a little bit more edge, great. I
think that working with day traders um
I work with some last year because I was
like, "Okay, I need to get my entries a
little bit better because I just need to
have more room." Um so, that's how I
started putting started using the
5-minute um
uh chart as well in order to try to get
a better price. And that's been very,
very helpful so far cuz you know, even
just even just me having a lot, I'm only
allowed to put so much on right now cuz
I'm still coming out of my time out.
Um
it still helped me so much uh
because the
the if it does pull back, it's still
within my risk limit. Um
so that takes a lot of pressure off um
if you get a really good entry. Right.
So
we talked about what you were looking
for on the structure of Hood. Yeah.
>> you get to finding Hood? Right? How did
you screen down from a thousand stocks,
10,000 stocks just down to Hood? So
Okay, here again is, you know, when you
talk about
beta and deltas and all that, I I also
don't really screen because I don't know
if I really need to because the internet
tells you what's popular right now. So
I have a list um of stocks that are on
my review list and I think it's like
maybe 20, 25 Yeah, so here we go.
Um I just go with like
big name, solid names, things that I'm
familiar with trading
um like Net- Netflix. Yeah. I was
calling this one out um pretty early. Um
and
>> right now, the one you're about to click
on. Yeah, that's awesome.
Um so just kind of names that are
floating around um some OGs like I'm
I've been trying to see if this one will
break out of here.
Um it already broke out of its This is
Apple. It already broke out of its base
and I'm just like I've got a small
position on and I'm like, "Why won't you
move from here?"
I'm like, "Please, come on." So
um yeah, names that you've seen and then
I'll have Uh, I actually have a list
here too that is
um
These are my stock plays. So, these are
ones where
the spread is a little too big for my
taste.
>> For the options.
>> Yeah. So, these are ones that I keep on
um actually I've never traded like
SanDisk, but I've heard about it. So, I
I put it on here to to um peep peep it
out. Um
but really it's just like
I just find names that are either OGs
like American Express and Apple um Meta
or names that I've never heard of, but
someone's mentioned them to me and I put
them on the list and I just look at the
chart and then I decide if I'm going to
trade it based if I'm going to trade it
as a
uh stock or an option.
And what I'm looking for in general like
what allows it to stay on my list is I
just want some smooth movements. So,
when it moves I want it to be
um
just
uh smooth for lack of a better word. Um
that was also what my first teacher
drilled into us. You
want to get into something that's I
think I don't know if Costco
is not smooth. Yeah. So, like Costco's
always doing this.
Um there's no like really clear
movement, right? And so, a lot of these
other ones are
just you get good runs up and then you
get good runs down just
a little smoother chart visually. So,
less gaps um
you might saw it wicks both ways, but
I'm looking for something tradeable,
right? So, like Five
Five Below is on my radar right now.
Um it's already in an uptrend. It's
doing some
popped up from here. So, we'll see which
direction it goes, but everything um
you know, it's retested. This is my 50
SMA.
Uh and this was something that was
introduced by a friend of mine. So, I
don't know. I really don't don't screen.
That can be something that maybe will
help me because what I would like to do
is get in something like MU
and be there for the most of the ride.
So,
>> Yeah. See, I like all of this. I like
all of this. Like it gives you just a
base, somewhere to have, you know,
just very stable and then you've got a
lot of room to the upside.
Yeah, that makes sense.
I mean, you know, I'm curious. What what
moving averages do you have in your
charts there?
Um so, I've got the 5 10 20 50 and 200.
Oh, very cool. I use the 10 20 50. So,
yeah, similar similar ones there.
Yeah, so I don't know if I'm going to
I've taken the 200 off on and off. I've
taken it off
on and off, yeah.
But, the 10 and 20 are great, especially
if a trend's going. They're pretty like
visual visually easy to see
when a stock is riding along it. Mhm.
And the the 50 to me is like, are we
above or below? So, bullish or bearish,
you know? I think it's pretty simple.
Yeah. I use a my trend template is
probably exactly the same as yours. It's
10 over the 20 and then price over the
50. So, it sounds like we're almost in
the same boat there.
Yeah, 10 over the 20, price over the 50.
Um yeah, that sounds like when I was um
one of the things in 2023 that I was
like, "Oh my gosh, y'all. Do y'all know
about stages?" Cuz
I never learned about that.
Yeah. And uh so it just sounds like
that, which is I learned it through Mark
Minervini, uh his book. I I love
I love
people who put really good stuff out
there, you know? Um
Who's this Minervini guy? I've I've
never heard of him. Mark Minervini? No,
who who is this guy? I've never never
heard of him before ever.
He's he's one
uh I'm messing with you. Okay, I was
like No, Mark's a friend of mine. He was
he was on Yeah, he was on uh on the same
interview series that you were on right
now just a few weeks ago, yeah. So
this
like if you're if you've got new people,
like everyone has to read this book. I
think it's so well
um written. Yeah, this one here, Trade
Like a Stock Market Wizard. Yeah,
absolutely. Um it was the first time I
was introduced to stages, and it's crazy
that I'd been profitable before then. Um
so pretty much what you're saying is
I like to catch the move, you know, the
breakout from the base, right? So that's
not a Mark Minervini thing. But after it
breaks out, then it's what he does is
you know, you wait for the
the consolidation, you wait for the
lower low volume.
Um
for me, I think a little bit is ego,
like I want to be in it first. Yeah. I
love what like when I saw Hood take off,
I was like, "Yes, I love it." Yeah, you
nailed it, absolutely. And and you're
killing it right now. You're up 30% for
the year in the US Investing
Championship. So, you you're doing an
amazing job. Emanuela, we've got a
handful of questions I'd love to ask you
real quick from from those who are who
are watching live. Did you trade all 12
12 months last year when you hit your
260% or did it come in spurts?
I traded all 12 months, yes. Um and
actually the first 6 months is where I
made most of my money. Mhm. Yeah.
>> sense, yeah. I I had a similar similar
situation where like after the summer
all I could do is basically just lose
money. I couldn't really put anything
together. So, and that's the thing,
right? Is that we don't get to control
when the market pays us. And and our
trading plan is not going to work 100%
of the time. A lot of new investors,
they get in and they're like, "I'll be
making money every week. This is so
easy, right?" But that's not really the
reality.
>> to like understand that you can
uh
I think it's helped me trade a lot less.
Um after I make big gains, I actually
have an expansion rule in my trading
plan where I take a pause and I take
less positions after I've hit a
milestone or really strong green streak,
yeah. Why would you want to take a break
when you're when everything's working?
Cuz you think you like you think you you
figured it out and you can treat the
market like an ATM and you expand
position sizes and and
for me I
uh you know, it's
I've had a slow down when I
it's different than pressing the gas on
like original ideas and that original
push. Like right now, like this original
push from last week, right? But at a
certain point if I'm pressing uh with
things starting to get extended, um you
know, it can wipe me out with especially
with options trading.
Right. Do you feel that that's in
conflict with your trading plan? And and
why I want to ask is um
if if you have your trading plan that
says, "I'm going to enter if XYZ
happens, right?" And that continues to
happen and it's working and everything
is great. But then you reach a point
where it sounded like there was some
sort of like emotional like, well, I'm
untouchable, right? I'm on fire.
Wouldn't that then violate the trading
plan to begin with?
So, I think what you're talking about is
the mechanical side of the trading plan.
Right.
The mechanical side will not work if the
emotional side isn't isn't in check.
Absolutely.
>> So,
for me it doesn't matter if
um if I'm not on, if I'm feeling a
little like I I call it activated, like
my nervous system is like sparky and I'm
just like feeling like I have figured it
out, I have to take a step back. It
doesn't matter what my
uh mechanical side says. Interesting.
But I'm like that, right? So, I get
sparky. Like I am like, oh my gosh, like
I have anxiety and I'm just like
uh oh, or I'm killing it and but some
people are very mechanical. I'm not.
So. Oh, yeah.
My trading plan could absolutely be
automated because like I'm not going to
do anything if it doesn't show up,
right? And then
I'm not going to let my ego take over
either. I'm just going to follow the
plan either way. So, yeah, I think
that's really interesting. You've got to
be self-aware, right? You don't know
unless you've been there what you
actually feel like.
Well, I think too. I think that with
time, like I still consider myself a
very not beginner, but intermediate
level trader. So, I think that over
time, you know, talk to me next year,
maybe my what I'm telling you changes.
But right now I still have to be very
aware of what is going on internally.
Got you.
Do you trade both up and down in the
market? Do you
long and short? Okay. I do.
Um one of my best trades last year was
on Apple
during I think the towards the end of
the flush out in April or so before the
pop on April 9th.
Um
it I get positioned the same way. I'm
just looking for an area on the hourly
chart that I can draw an invalidation
line, so I don't want the price to move
above it. Um and then I hold to a
certain profit target.
Got you.
Do you offer or teach any sort of
course? No, I I don't, but I will
definitely talk through what I do. Um
I have my newsletter where I share what
I do, and then I do
>> Yeah, let's go to that real quick. So,
your newsletter is The Trader Reset, and
she and I were talking ahead of time.
You can subscribe to your newsletter.
How often does your newsletter come out?
Every week. Every week, very cool. I'm
going to make sure I subscribe cuz I
want to hear from you as well. And then
you were mentioning as well it's free
trading plan guide that people should go
pick up. Yep.
Um I also do a couple of live sessions
where like you can do like AMAs, ask me
anything where you know, if you've got
questions on your own strategy, as long
as you're doing technical analysis. I
don't know anything about fundamental
analysis or any of that. But um
technical analysis, especially like how
we described it today,
uh I I love to talk to people,
especially people who are putting in the
work and are uh treating this seriously.
Yeah.
And you've also got a YouTube channel. I
do, yeah.
>> I Do you Do you like making YouTube
videos? Uh you know, so-so. Like I I
think that I go in spurts. Um
actually do I do like to talk through
uh the charts all the time. So, I would
say yes to that. Um
but I don't know about like creating,
you know, going beyond like a couple of
videos here and there. So.
Yeah, no, that's okay. That's okay. And
then um I saw you have a a Twitter
account. How active are you on that?
I'm not. Um actually got off of social
media last year as well.
Um Yeah, I know that feeling. I'm the
same way.
I just it's trading
for everyone that is watching and
listening. It is a very head down thing.
You have to be able to block out the
noise and one person can say something
about a stock that you're in you're in a
position and you don't even know that
it's affecting your decision making. So,
um
I just for now am off of most social
media. Um
but I you know, I write I respond to my
newsletter readers if you write me.
Oh, no.
Oh, no. Now you've opened a can of
worms. Now you're going to get all all
the people who who watch this are going
to be like, "Oh, let me just email
Danielle real quick." Yeah. So, no, but
I I love it. I do love to meet people
who are
uh my my favorite type of
uh trader is one who is still sticking
with it. Um they're at a point where
they haven't like they're kind of done
blowing up accounts like they've just
slowed down. Right? Cuz when you get you
get new new traders like it's every like
they're switching from one strategy to
the next. They're just trying to find
something that works. But when you I
find people who have done it for a while
and like are getting more serious.
They're like, "Okay.
I'm going to slow down.
I'm going to create a plan. I'm going to
trade only during this and this, you
know, sec session and um
I love working with people like that
because
I mean, quite frankly, I just think
they're serious about it and
this is a full-time job.
I think that you can do this to create
some residual income while you have a
day job. I think you can absolutely do
that. But to really make this to make a
living from it, it's a whole 'nother
story. Yeah.
That makes total sense. Well, Manuela,
I'm so
First off, I want to say again,
congratulations for your incredible
results last year. And we're in the same
division, in the enhanced growth
division, right? Well, yeah. Wait, where
are you at? What percent are you at?
>> I'm go to the bottom. I'm like one above
the bottom. That's me right there. So,
um
But we have a lot of outliers actually,
which is fantastic, who are all beating
me. And I'm so proud of them. Um you Did
you see that 80% of the field is
negative for the year so far?
Uh so, I have I'm going to go I I'm
going to skim through this really quick
cuz I don't want to see the top people
cuz it'll Hold on. Champion stock. Not
going to see the top people. Enhanced
growth.
I'm going to scroll down a little bit. I
see all the outliers there.
Um
We're all just trying to chase after you
is what it is.
Well,
well, I actually didn't check the
standings. Um I haven't submitted my um
I was flat, so I didn't submit it. Um
And uh
I
I don't know if I'm going to check the
standings um until it's over.
Well, that's okay. No worries. Hey,
speaking of Mark Minervini, did you know
his assistant Bob won the stock division
last year, and he didn't tell Mark he
competed of the entire year until he
won, and he said, "Hey Mark, guess what?
I won my division." And Mark's like,
"What? You never told me the whole
time?" Yeah, that that actually
happened. So, that's out there out
there.
>> I love that so much. Well, it just sound
like, you know, I'm very hard on myself,
so it sounds like you you know, I that
I'm doing pretty
well.
Um
but it never feels that way.
Yeah.
And I don't know if it's because
like in our division, someone made
2,000%
and I was like, but I don't know if you
watched the Trader Lion interview with
him. Not yet, but I need to. Yeah. I
mean, wicked brilliant. And I love a lot
of the things that he said. That's why I
started to think about again, not I'm
not changing strategy, but what can get
me like I did last year, what can get me
in a little bit better? What maybe what
stocks can I pick that are going to give
me a little bit more um movement.
So, uh yeah, that's where I'm at right
now. I I do appreciate where I'm at, but
I am very like it's hard to, you know,
not want more. And it's and it's not
about the money. It's just about really
fine-tuning this skill set. Like it's
>> Yeah. I really want to be masterful at
it. It's it it for and I agree with you
completely. I've said this for years.
It's not about the money. It's about
it's about the game, right? If if it's
your favorite game in the world, you
could play this forever. In fact, there
was a day where my my son asked me,
we're getting ready for school. He's
like, "Dad, how long are you going to be
trading?" And I was like,
uh until I stop breathing. Like I have
no reason not to stop. I love the game.
So, yeah, that's really exciting that
you have the same same sort of
mentality. Emmanuel, I got to say, I
really enjoyed our chat. And because you
are competing this year, I would love to
have you back on maybe third quarter,
fourth quarter to see how things are
going this year. And you can tell me how
much you're beating me by cuz it's
absolutely going to happen. And I just
want to be able to say, "Hey, I know
her. I know her. She's she's doing great
things."
I love that. Yeah, no, for sure. This is
great.
So, uh be sure everybody goes to
Emanuela's website, The Trader Reset,
and um you know, sign up for her
newsletter. She'd love to to have you on
board. And And Emanuela, thank you again
so much for taking the time to uh to
come and hang out with us today. You
have been a fantastic addition to the
Champion Trader series. Thank you so
much. I really appreciate it. It's been
fun. You're very welcome. And for those
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